49ers rush defense

Danno · 01-14-2012, 09:18 AM

I wonder how much of their success against the run was because they faced a lot of really bad QB's and could afford to keep 8 in the box most of the game, forcing bad QB's to try and beat them.

spkb25 · 01-14-2012, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

I wonder how much of their success against the run was because they faced a lot of really bad QB's and could afford to keep 8 in the box most of the game, forcing bad QB's to try and beat them.

I am sure that plays a part to some extent, certainly. The Giants have a good pass game, and they kept running the ball, but went no where. Like 3. some odd per carry.

Our pass game though has to give us some edge in running the ball if it is successful. 3.8-4.2 yards per would make me very happy

hot97x · 01-14-2012, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

I wonder how much of their success against the run was because they faced a lot of really bad QB's and could afford to keep 8 in the box most of the game, forcing bad QB's to try and beat them.

the 49ers don't play 8 in the box, period. they have shut down the run game with the front 7 all year long. best front 7 in football.

spkb25 · 01-14-2012, 10:56 AM

Interesting fact- against the 6th best run d (atlanta) and the 11th (minny) we rushed for over 160 yards. Atlanta gave up 97 rypg, and minny 107!

Good info.

Danno · 01-14-2012, 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by hot97x

the 49ers don't play 8 in the box, period. they have shut down the run game with the front 7 all year long. best front 7 in football.

You can stack the box with 7 also. Its called playing the run 'cause the QB is crap.

hot97x · 01-14-2012, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

You can stack the box with 7 also. Its called playing the run 'cause the QB is crap.

how do you "stack the box" with 7 guys? they play a 3-4 defense. unless they're in nickel every play has 7 guys in the box. in fact this goes for every teams base defense.

Danno · 01-14-2012, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by hot97x

how do you "stack the box" with 7 guys? they play a 3-4 defense. unless they're in nickel every play has 7 guys in the box. in fact this goes for every teams base defense.

You cheat up to play the run. "Stacking" may not be the correct term, but you get the point.

hot97x · 01-14-2012, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

You cheat up to play the run. "Stacking" may not be the correct term, but you get the point.

i really don't get the point. the linebackers are already "in the box". how would they cheat up? the OLB's play on the line of scrimmage just like every other 3-4 defense. and the MLB's play 5-6 yards off the ball, again just like every teams MLB. your really not making any sense.

Danno · 01-14-2012, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by hot97x

i really don't get the point. the linebackers are already "in the box". how would they cheat up? the OLB's play on the line of scrimmage just like every other 3-4 defense. and the MLB's play 5-6 yards off the ball, again just like every teams MLB. your really not making any sense.

The defense is focusing on run 1st, then pass, like every defensive alignment can do. They can move closer to the line as the ball is about to be snapped or stay pu or drop back.

All teams do it when expecing the run, 3-4 or 4-3, it doesn't matter.

01-14-2012, 09:34 AM	#22
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Originally Posted by Danno I wonder how much of their success against the run was because they faced a lot of really bad QB's and could afford to keep 8 in the box most of the game, forcing bad QB's to try and beat them. I am sure that plays a part to some extent, certainly. The Giants have a good pass game, and they kept running the ball, but went no where. Like 3. some odd per carry. Our pass game though has to give us some edge in running the ball if it is successful. 3.8-4.2 yards per would make me very happy

01-14-2012, 10:32 AM	#23
hot97x Rookie Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 5	Originally Posted by Danno I wonder how much of their success against the run was because they faced a lot of really bad QB's and could afford to keep 8 in the box most of the game, forcing bad QB's to try and beat them. the 49ers don't play 8 in the box, period. they have shut down the run game with the front 7 all year long. best front 7 in football.
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01-14-2012, 11:07 AM	#25
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Originally Posted by hot97x the 49ers don't play 8 in the box, period. they have shut down the run game with the front 7 all year long. best front 7 in football. You can stack the box with 7 also. Its called playing the run 'cause the QB is crap.

01-14-2012, 11:40 AM	#26
hot97x Rookie Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 5	Originally Posted by Danno You can stack the box with 7 also. Its called playing the run 'cause the QB is crap. how do you "stack the box" with 7 guys? they play a 3-4 defense. unless they're in nickel every play has 7 guys in the box. in fact this goes for every teams base defense.
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01-14-2012, 11:52 AM	#27
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Originally Posted by hot97x how do you "stack the box" with 7 guys? they play a 3-4 defense. unless they're in nickel every play has 7 guys in the box. in fact this goes for every teams base defense. You cheat up to play the run. "Stacking" may not be the correct term, but you get the point.

01-14-2012, 09:18 AM	#21
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	I wonder how much of their success against the run was because they faced a lot of really bad QB's and could afford to keep 8 in the box most of the game, forcing bad QB's to try and beat them.

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01-14-2012, 10:56 AM	#24
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Interesting fact- against the 6th best run d (atlanta) and the 11th (minny) we rushed for over 160 yards. Atlanta gave up 97 rypg, and minny 107! Good info.

01-14-2012, 12:46 PM	#28
hot97x Rookie Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 5	Originally Posted by Danno You cheat up to play the run. "Stacking" may not be the correct term, but you get the point. i really don't get the point. the linebackers are already "in the box". how would they cheat up? the OLB's play on the line of scrimmage just like every other 3-4 defense. and the MLB's play 5-6 yards off the ball, again just like every teams MLB. your really not making any sense.
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01-14-2012, 12:56 PM	#29
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Originally Posted by hot97x i really don't get the point. the linebackers are already "in the box". how would they cheat up? the OLB's play on the line of scrimmage just like every other 3-4 defense. and the MLB's play 5-6 yards off the ball, again just like every teams MLB. your really not making any sense. The defense is focusing on run 1st, then pass, like every defensive alignment can do. They can move closer to the line as the ball is about to be snapped or stay pu or drop back. All teams do it when expecing the run, 3-4 or 4-3, it doesn't matter.