greg williams is a dumb @ss!!

UK_WhoDat · 01-15-2012, 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by OldMaid

.....I would love for the Texans to be there. They are the underdog.

OK. I will let you have 2 more guesses.

spkb25 · 01-15-2012, 07:24 PM

Originally Posted by mike27

So, like you I can cite two of the five turnovers, and say the offense sucks? No way. Sorry, if you look at the whole game, and the defense having to compensate for the offensive mistakes, they did great. Believe me, if we'd have had one or two less turnovers, just that slightly better statistic, we'd have won.

You've obviously got some kind of agenda here. Five turnovers isn't just a lot. It's a HUGE number, and they weren't made by the defense. I don't understand your blindness to this very obvious fact.

Ignoring that- what are you talking about. Go back and look at all my post this week prior to the game where I said over and over that we had to protect the ball. I said it was the most important aspect of the game.

The simple fact is we were up by 3 with 1 min 37 to go and they were at their own 15. They had just got done, prior to our drive for a td, having alex smith run it in from like 25 yards out. Wait, didn't they get down there by a throw to Vernon Davis? Then they turn around, and they don't tie it, they win it. 85 yards. Long throw, wait for it, wait for it- to vernon davis again?Playing man coverage at that point in the game, are you kidding me. How many times does davis have to burn us before you stop playing man? We apparently don't have the people to do that. know your personnel...

My agenda- put blame where it lies. Yep we shouldn't have been in the game, etc etc etc. Good, but we were. Doesn't matter what should have been, it matters what was... we were winning by 3 with 1 min 37 seconds to go, they had one time out and were on their 15 yard line.

This wasn't Montana and Rice bro- it was smith and davis...

gandhi1007 · 01-15-2012, 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

Ignoring that- what are you talking about. Go back and look at all my post this week prior to the game where I said over and over that we had to protect the ball. I said it was the most important aspect of the game.

The simple fact is we were up by 3 with 1 min 37 to go and they were at their own 15. They had just got done, prior to our drive for a td, having alex smith run it in from like 25 yards out. Wait, didn't they get down there by a throw to Vernon Davis? Then they turn around, and they don't tie it, they win it. 85 yards. Long throw, wait for it, wait for it- to vernon davis again?Playing man coverage at that point in the game, are you kidding me. How many times does davis have to burn us before you stop playing man? We apparently don't have the people to do that. know your personnel...

My agenda- put blame where it lies. Yep we shouldn't have been in the game, etc etc etc. Good, but we were. Doesn't matter what should have been, it matters what was... we were winning by 3 with 1 min 37 seconds to go, they had one time out and were on their 15 yard line.

This wasn't Montana and Rice bro- it was smith and davis...

Well said spkb. Regardless of turnovers, losing with 1:37 remaining on a pass by Alex Smith to Vernon Davis......again...... is unacceptable. Alex Smith......one of the worst QB's in the league!!! Simple prevent would have kept them from a TD! For that alone, management should have fired Williams instead of giving him the dignity of accepting another job first.

OldMaid · 01-15-2012, 07:35 PM

I hear you spkb and G.

LivnaLieTimay · 01-15-2012, 07:54 PM

Did anyone see the halftime interview with Vernon Davis during the Packers/Giants game? He said that he was shocked the Saints were blitzing and covering him one on one in man defense. He told Alex Smith to just throw him the ball.

You know it's bad when the other team is excited about your playcalling. The only way the niners score is if we man-blitz and that's exactly what we did. The niners knew it and all of us fans knew it. If the Saints had stuck to their "prevent defense" the best the niners were going to do was a 50+ yard field goal attempt.

The prevent defense is bad against some QB's but Alex Smith isn't one of them. Smith was jittery in the pocket and didn't want to force anything down the field against our prevent defense. He was taking a quick look then checking down. By going to a man-blitz you allow a jittery QB to get rid of it quick and give their playmakers a chance to break a tackle or 2 and get a big gainer.

I hope GW joins the Rams this week so we can move on already.

gandhi1007 · 01-15-2012, 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by LivnaLieTimay

Did anyone see the halftime interview with Vernon Davis during the Packers/Giants game? He said that he was shocked the Saints were blitzing and covering him one on one in man defense. He told Alex Smith to just throw him the ball.

Yeah......I almost threw up in my mouth watching it. Ughhh!!!!! Seriously, our defense needs an overhaul.....starting with Greg Williams.

mikesaintfan · 01-16-2012, 03:02 PM

This needs to get done so an offer can be made to spagnola or del rio...either way...what the team does not need is to let both of those guys get jobs while GW decides what to do...take out the trash already...its starting to stink...make the offers NOW

OldMaid · 01-16-2012, 04:50 PM

Over and out. It is official on NFL Network, GW is off to St.Louis.

He was a part , a hugh part, of these current Saints and making this team have its' first SB win. The years building up to that were pretty good. The years after have kept the Saints as a contender.
I am sure the man did not want to go out like this. I am sure he will regret this in career. GW was , I bet, going to St. Louis anyway. This last game did make his choice, but his good friend, with whom he has worked with for a number of good years, became HC there. Reading between the lines, this was in the makings since well before this last Saints ' game.
Second chances do not come around for any of us in things sometimes.
Best to GW in St. Louis and to the Saints 2012.

OldMaid · 01-16-2012, 04:58 PM

And whodat4life, maybe we should remove that word from your thread title.

Mardigras9 · 01-17-2012, 09:42 AM

I keep thinking I will see a bigger picture, but I can't help blaming GW. The thing is, even after all the turnovers and all the mistakes, we could have still pulled it out. Even after the 18yard gain, they had less than a minute and EVERYONE knew they had to pass it down field and EVERYONE knew if we blitzed and they picked it up, it would be a big gain, and GW STILL SENT THE BLITZ. The Saints shouldn't have even been in the game, but they were, and should have won if not for the Defensive play calling. WTF?

01-15-2012, 03:53 PM	#141
UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 3,865	Originally Posted by OldMaid .....I would love for the Texans to be there. They are the underdog. OK. I will let you have 2 more guesses.

01-15-2012, 07:24 PM	#142
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,093	Originally Posted by mike27 So, like you I can cite two of the five turnovers, and say the offense sucks? No way. Sorry, if you look at the whole game, and the defense having to compensate for the offensive mistakes, they did great. Believe me, if we'd have had one or two less turnovers, just that slightly better statistic, we'd have won. You've obviously got some kind of agenda here. Five turnovers isn't just a lot. It's a HUGE number, and they weren't made by the defense. I don't understand your blindness to this very obvious fact. Ignoring that- what are you talking about. Go back and look at all my post this week prior to the game where I said over and over that we had to protect the ball. I said it was the most important aspect of the game. The simple fact is we were up by 3 with 1 min 37 to go and they were at their own 15. They had just got done, prior to our drive for a td, having alex smith run it in from like 25 yards out. Wait, didn't they get down there by a throw to Vernon Davis? Then they turn around, and they don't tie it, they win it. 85 yards. Long throw, wait for it, wait for it- to vernon davis again?Playing man coverage at that point in the game, are you kidding me. How many times does davis have to burn us before you stop playing man? We apparently don't have the people to do that. know your personnel... My agenda- put blame where it lies. Yep we shouldn't have been in the game, etc etc etc. Good, but we were. Doesn't matter what should have been, it matters what was... we were winning by 3 with 1 min 37 seconds to go, they had one time out and were on their 15 yard line. This wasn't Montana and Rice bro- it was smith and davis... UK_WhoDat, Boutte, OldMaid and 2 others like this.
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01-15-2012, 07:29 PM	#143
gandhi1007 Part Time Pimp Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,967	Originally Posted by spkb25 Ignoring that- what are you talking about. Go back and look at all my post this week prior to the game where I said over and over that we had to protect the ball. I said it was the most important aspect of the game. The simple fact is we were up by 3 with 1 min 37 to go and they were at their own 15. They had just got done, prior to our drive for a td, having alex smith run it in from like 25 yards out. Wait, didn't they get down there by a throw to Vernon Davis? Then they turn around, and they don't tie it, they win it. 85 yards. Long throw, wait for it, wait for it- to vernon davis again?Playing man coverage at that point in the game, are you kidding me. How many times does davis have to burn us before you stop playing man? We apparently don't have the people to do that. know your personnel... My agenda- put blame where it lies. Yep we shouldn't have been in the game, etc etc etc. Good, but we were. Doesn't matter what should have been, it matters what was... we were winning by 3 with 1 min 37 seconds to go, they had one time out and were on their 15 yard line. This wasn't Montana and Rice bro- it was smith and davis... Well said spkb. Regardless of turnovers, losing with 1:37 remaining on a pass by Alex Smith to Vernon Davis......again...... is unacceptable. Alex Smith......one of the worst QB's in the league!!! Simple prevent would have kept them from a TD! For that alone, management should have fired Williams instead of giving him the dignity of accepting another job first. spkb25 and mikesaintfan like this.

01-15-2012, 07:54 PM	#145
LivnaLieTimay 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New York Posts: 1,498	Did anyone see the halftime interview with Vernon Davis during the Packers/Giants game? He said that he was shocked the Saints were blitzing and covering him one on one in man defense. He told Alex Smith to just throw him the ball. You know it's bad when the other team is excited about your playcalling. The only way the niners score is if we man-blitz and that's exactly what we did. The niners knew it and all of us fans knew it. If the Saints had stuck to their "prevent defense" the best the niners were going to do was a 50+ yard field goal attempt. The prevent defense is bad against some QB's but Alex Smith isn't one of them. Smith was jittery in the pocket and didn't want to force anything down the field against our prevent defense. He was taking a quick look then checking down. By going to a man-blitz you allow a jittery QB to get rid of it quick and give their playmakers a chance to break a tackle or 2 and get a big gainer. I hope GW joins the Rams this week so we can move on already. spkb25 likes this.

01-15-2012, 08:45 PM	#146
gandhi1007 Part Time Pimp Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,967	Originally Posted by LivnaLieTimay Did anyone see the halftime interview with Vernon Davis during the Packers/Giants game? He said that he was shocked the Saints were blitzing and covering him one on one in man defense. He told Alex Smith to just throw him the ball. Yeah......I almost threw up in my mouth watching it. Ughhh!!!!! Seriously, our defense needs an overhaul.....starting with Greg Williams.

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01-15-2012, 07:35 PM	#144
OldMaid Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,910 Blog Entries: 3	I hear you spkb and G.

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mikesaintfan 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2006 Location: new jersey Posts: 1,070	This needs to get done so an offer can be made to spagnola or del rio...either way...what the team does not need is to let both of those guys get jobs while GW decides what to do...take out the trash already...its starting to stink...make the offers NOW

01-16-2012, 04:50 PM	#148
OldMaid Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,910 Blog Entries: 3	Over and out. It is official on NFL Network, GW is off to St.Louis. He was a part , a hugh part, of these current Saints and making this team have its' first SB win. The years building up to that were pretty good. The years after have kept the Saints as a contender. I am sure the man did not want to go out like this. I am sure he will regret this in career. GW was , I bet, going to St. Louis anyway. This last game did make his choice, but his good friend, with whom he has worked with for a number of good years, became HC there. Reading between the lines, this was in the makings since well before this last Saints ' game. Second chances do not come around for any of us in things sometimes. Best to GW in St. Louis and to the Saints 2012.

01-16-2012, 04:58 PM	#149
OldMaid Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,910 Blog Entries: 3	And whodat4life, maybe we should remove that word from your thread title.

01-17-2012, 09:42 AM	#150
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	I keep thinking I will see a bigger picture, but I can't help blaming GW. The thing is, even after all the turnovers and all the mistakes, we could have still pulled it out. Even after the 18yard gain, they had less than a minute and EVERYONE knew they had to pass it down field and EVERYONE knew if we blitzed and they picked it up, it would be a big gain, and GW STILL SENT THE BLITZ. The Saints shouldn't have even been in the game, but they were, and should have won if not for the Defensive play calling. WTF?
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