greg williams is a dumb @ss!!

halloween 65 · 01-15-2012, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Because we gave them 6 more free chances to beat us....

I agree with that to a point,6 turnovers to a sub- par offense and the D got the job done to that point, but they could not keep the lead when we got it. Forget the turnovers we crawled and scratched back hard to overcome the 6 tunrovers and did, just to watch our D blow up in the final 5 minutes of the game. We had the lead!! The D blew the lead!!

mike27 · 01-14-2012, 10:04 PM

Originally Posted by Boutte

We scored 34 points! The D lost this. How can anyone possibly not see that?

Subtract 17 points from the 36, and you get 19. 32, or more, to 19, Saints' win. How can you not do subtraction?

Seriously folks, in the playoffs for 3 years, won a superbowl in 2009, and even with all the errors on the offense, handing points to the other side, they still were in the game at the end.

You know what? I'm pretty happy with Williams, and Coach Payton, and there are 32 teams, and I'd put them up against anyone. They gave us 14 winning games to watch, and after watching the Saints' for 40 plus years, and seeing them lose, and lose, and lose, I just can't complain a whole lot.

I'd like for them to have won of course. But they didn't. It's a game, somebody lost, somebody won. I'd have actually felt a little bad for SF if they had lost, they were trying so hard, though I didn't like the fact they were playing dirty, referees weren't calling a lot of penalties, and I really thought taunting was illegal, which it seemed SF was doing on every kickoff.

I hope GB destroys them, and I just wish the Saints' had injured more of them, like they were so obviously trying to do to the Saints', with success I might add. Oh, did you see the guy twist Graham's right arm back while he was rolling the other way?

SaintsBella · 01-15-2012, 12:40 AM

Originally Posted by mike27

Subtract 17 points from the 36, and you get 19. 32, or more, to 19, Saints' win. How can you not do subtraction?

Seriously folks, in the playoffs for 3 years, won a superbowl in 2009, and even with all the errors on the offense, handing points to the other side, they still were in the game at the end.

You know what? I'm pretty happy with Williams, and Coach Payton, and there are 32 teams, and I'd put them up against anyone. They gave us 14 winning games to watch, and after watching the Saints' for 40 plus years, and seeing them lose, and lose, and lose, I just can't complain a whole lot.

I'd like for them to have won of course. But they didn't. It's a game, somebody lost, somebody won. I'd have actually felt a little bad for SF if they had lost, they were trying so hard, though I didn't like the fact they were playing dirty, referees weren't calling a lot of penalties, and I really thought taunting was illegal, which it seemed SF was doing on every kickoff.

I hope GB destroys them, and I just wish the Saints' had injured more of them, like they were so obviously trying to do to the Saints', with success I might add. Oh, did you see the guy twist Graham's right arm back while he was rolling the other way?

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought their kickoff dance was ridiculous. I was waiting for them to break out and do the YMCA dance. Surely, if our guys had done that, there'd be a sea of yellow flags.

spkb25 · 01-15-2012, 12:50 AM

Originally Posted by mike27

Subtract 17 points from the 36, and you get 19. 32, or more, to 19, Saints' win. How can you not do subtraction?

Seriously folks, in the playoffs for 3 years, won a superbowl in 2009, and even with all the errors on the offense, handing points to the other side, they still were in the game at the end.

You know what? I'm pretty happy with Williams, and Coach Payton, and there are 32 teams, and I'd put them up against anyone. They gave us 14 winning games to watch, and after watching the Saints' for 40 plus years, and seeing them lose, and lose, and lose, I just can't complain a whole lot.

I'd like for them to have won of course. But they didn't. It's a game, somebody lost, somebody won. I'd have actually felt a little bad for SF if they had lost, they were trying so hard, though I didn't like the fact they were playing dirty, referees weren't calling a lot of penalties, and I really thought taunting was illegal, which it seemed SF was doing on every kickoff.

I hope GB destroys them, and I just wish the Saints' had injured more of them, like they were so obviously trying to do to the Saints', with success I might add. Oh, did you see the guy twist Graham's right arm back while he was rolling the other way?

uh, they went 85 yards in 1 minute 37 seconds, r u serious with the somebody lost somebody won thing. Nothing against you bro, but no frigan way that should have happened. 85 frigan yards man

gandhi1007 · 01-15-2012, 01:36 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

uh, they went 85 yards in 1 minute 37 seconds, r u serious with the somebody lost somebody won thing. Nothing against you bro, but no frigan way that should have happened. 85 frigan yards man

......with Alex Smith as their QB.....Alex freakin' Smith!!!!!! Piss poor defense!

mike27 · 01-15-2012, 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

uh, they went 85 yards in 1 minute 37 seconds, r u serious with the somebody lost somebody won thing. Nothing against you bro, but no frigan way that should have happened. 85 frigan yards man

So, like you I can cite two of the five turnovers, and say the offense sucks? No way. Sorry, if you look at the whole game, and the defense having to compensate for the offensive mistakes, they did great. Believe me, if we'd have had one or two less turnovers, just that slightly better statistic, we'd have won.

You've obviously got some kind of agenda here. Five turnovers isn't just a lot. It's a HUGE number, and they weren't made by the defense. I don't understand your blindness to this very obvious fact.

LBCutta · 01-14-2012, 08:29 PM

Greg Williams had one good year here as DC...Thats it. The other years Brees bailed him out......He will fail wherever he goes because he wont have a HOF QB to save his ass every week. My 2 year old daughter can put on a ****ing Motorola headset and call blitzes all damn day! We need someone that is going to be a real DC...not a non-playcalling idiot!

hagan714 · 01-14-2012, 08:30 PM

to play williams defense you need perfect play from your secondary. but we give to much cushion and results in bend do not break approach. you will get burned.

But to his defense the saints have not addressed some needs on defense since he got here.

Marlboro Man · 01-14-2012, 08:43 PM

Guys, my heart is broken. I have followed this team since 1967. I have endured jokes, insults and every thing you can imagine because of being a fan of this team and I have taken it, I have waited until next year for so long it's not even funny. My best friend died without even seeing this poor excuse of a franchise have a winning season. My Grandfather and Grandmother both died without seeing them have a winning season. My father is the only one besides myself that even saw a winning season. I am the only one to have finally seen us win a Super Bowl. I am now beginning to doubt that even with all the talent we have on this team. Talent that I personally believe should win at least 2 more Super Bowls, we will never see that again in the next 40 years.

Three years we have been trying to build a defense and this is what we get? Were those efforts even serious or just window dressing. Why Sharper wasn't signed this year so that Jenkins could digress and disappear and become a nobody on defense. At least when Sharper was here Jenkins played well. It's sickening to see Harper play or act like he's playing. This guy has got to be THE worst S in the league. Our DB's have forgotten how to look for the ball while playing pass defense. You know why we haven't gotten the To's this year? Because we haven't tried to get them. Look at the 49ers and the way they go after the ball and then look at what we do.

I have sacrificed way too much to follow and support this kind of garbage that the Saints put out on that field tonight, and I for one am not believing the BS from this team any longer, I'm done until I see some real improvement on the defensive side of the ball and SP get over the disease of not running the ball enough. I truely believe that there isn't a team in the league that should be able to beat the Saints unless we come out and put forth as pathetic and effort as the one they put out tonight. I am ashamed to say that I am a Saints fan today. I am sick and tired of being embarrassed because of these kinds of performances by this team and I am no longer going to spend the money, time or emotional investment in this team that doesn't give a damn about itself or it's city or it's fans buy putting on a performance like that.

Congratulations, Frisco, you deserved to win the game. You wanted it more, you showed more passion, fire and determination. It was a well deserved win. You are right, the Saints can't stand on the same field with you. The sports pundits are right too, the Saints can't win on the road, outdoors on the grass and no one can say any different because we just proved that we can't. This defense should be ashamed of the way they have played the last two years, and should take a separate flight home so they don't get any of that LOSER stuff on our offense. I'm going to take a very long time off from the Saints. I don't know if I'll ever come back and be a fan again. This was a disgusting discrace to the fans.

CharityMike · 01-14-2012, 08:54 PM

Originally Posted by Marlboro Man

Guys, my heart is broken. I have followed this team since 1967. I have endured jokes, insults and every thing you can imagine because of being a fan of this team and I have taken it, I have waited until next year for so long it's not even funny. My best friend died without even seeing this poor excuse of a franchise have a winning season. My Grandfather and Grandmother both died without seeing them have a winning season. My father is the only one besides myself that even saw a winning season. I am the only one to have finally seen us win a Super Bowl. I am now beginning to doubt that even with all the talent we have on this team. Talent that I personally believe should win at least 2 more Super Bowls, we will never see that again in the next 40 years.

Three years we have been trying to build a defense and this is what we get? Were those efforts even serious or just window dressing. Why Sharper wasn't signed this year so that Jenkins could digress and disappear and become a nobody on defense. At least when Sharper was here Jenkins played well. It's sickening to see Harper play or act like he's playing. This guy has got to be THE worst S in the league. Our DB's have forgotten how to look for the ball while playing pass defense. You know why we haven't gotten the To's this year? Because we haven't tried to get them. Look at the 49ers and the way they go after the ball and then look at what we do.

I have sacrificed way too much to follow and support this kind of garbage that the Saints put out on that field tonight, and I for one am not believing the BS from this team any longer, I'm done until I see some real improvement on the defensive side of the ball and SP get over the disease of not running the ball enough. I truely believe that there isn't a team in the league that should be able to beat the Saints unless we come out and put forth as pathetic and effort as the one they put out tonight. I am ashamed to say that I am a Saints fan today. I am sick and tired of being embarrassed because of these kinds of performances by this team and I am no longer going to spend the money, time or emotional investment in this team that doesn't give a damn about itself or it's city or it's fans buy putting on a performance like that.

Congratulations, Frisco, you deserved to win the game. You wanted it more, you showed more passion, fire and determination. It was a well deserved win. You are right, the Saints can't stand on the same field with you. The sports pundits are right too, the Saints can't win on the road, outdoors on the grass and no one can say any different because we just proved that we can't. This defense should be ashamed of the way they have played the last two years, and should take a separate flight home so they don't get any of that LOSER stuff on our offense. I'm going to take a very long time off from the Saints. I don't know if I'll ever come back and be a fan again. This was a disgusting discrace to the fans.

Wow..talking about jumping off a cliff. I know you are upset just like the rest of us but damn.

I haven't been through as many bad years I am only 38 but I have seen enough. I still love my team and always will. They represent us and my city good or bad. We made it to the divisional round..24 others teams can't say that.

I think some of your points are just heat of the moment stuff. I wish we could have run more but lets get real. 49's D is #1 in run defense. We gave the ball to who has been our savior since he got here. Our D needs some serious improvement and it starts with the one calling the plays.

So please back off the ledge and come have a beer and weep along with the rest of us.

01-14-2012, 10:04 PM	#2
mike27 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 104 Blog Entries: 2	Originally Posted by Boutte We scored 34 points! The D lost this. How can anyone possibly not see that? Subtract 17 points from the 36, and you get 19. 32, or more, to 19, Saints' win. How can you not do subtraction? Seriously folks, in the playoffs for 3 years, won a superbowl in 2009, and even with all the errors on the offense, handing points to the other side, they still were in the game at the end. You know what? I'm pretty happy with Williams, and Coach Payton, and there are 32 teams, and I'd put them up against anyone. They gave us 14 winning games to watch, and after watching the Saints' for 40 plus years, and seeing them lose, and lose, and lose, I just can't complain a whole lot. I'd like for them to have won of course. But they didn't. It's a game, somebody lost, somebody won. I'd have actually felt a little bad for SF if they had lost, they were trying so hard, though I didn't like the fact they were playing dirty, referees weren't calling a lot of penalties, and I really thought taunting was illegal, which it seemed SF was doing on every kickoff. I hope GB destroys them, and I just wish the Saints' had injured more of them, like they were so obviously trying to do to the Saints', with success I might add. Oh, did you see the guy twist Graham's right arm back while he was rolling the other way?

01-15-2012, 12:40 AM	#3
SaintsBella Rookie Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 11	Originally Posted by mike27 Subtract 17 points from the 36, and you get 19. 32, or more, to 19, Saints' win. How can you not do subtraction? Seriously folks, in the playoffs for 3 years, won a superbowl in 2009, and even with all the errors on the offense, handing points to the other side, they still were in the game at the end. You know what? I'm pretty happy with Williams, and Coach Payton, and there are 32 teams, and I'd put them up against anyone. They gave us 14 winning games to watch, and after watching the Saints' for 40 plus years, and seeing them lose, and lose, and lose, I just can't complain a whole lot. I'd like for them to have won of course. But they didn't. It's a game, somebody lost, somebody won. I'd have actually felt a little bad for SF if they had lost, they were trying so hard, though I didn't like the fact they were playing dirty, referees weren't calling a lot of penalties, and I really thought taunting was illegal, which it seemed SF was doing on every kickoff. I hope GB destroys them, and I just wish the Saints' had injured more of them, like they were so obviously trying to do to the Saints', with success I might add. Oh, did you see the guy twist Graham's right arm back while he was rolling the other way? I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought their kickoff dance was ridiculous. I was waiting for them to break out and do the YMCA dance. Surely, if our guys had done that, there'd be a sea of yellow flags.

01-15-2012, 12:50 AM	#4
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Originally Posted by mike27 Subtract 17 points from the 36, and you get 19. 32, or more, to 19, Saints' win. How can you not do subtraction? Seriously folks, in the playoffs for 3 years, won a superbowl in 2009, and even with all the errors on the offense, handing points to the other side, they still were in the game at the end. You know what? I'm pretty happy with Williams, and Coach Payton, and there are 32 teams, and I'd put them up against anyone. They gave us 14 winning games to watch, and after watching the Saints' for 40 plus years, and seeing them lose, and lose, and lose, I just can't complain a whole lot. I'd like for them to have won of course. But they didn't. It's a game, somebody lost, somebody won. I'd have actually felt a little bad for SF if they had lost, they were trying so hard, though I didn't like the fact they were playing dirty, referees weren't calling a lot of penalties, and I really thought taunting was illegal, which it seemed SF was doing on every kickoff. I hope GB destroys them, and I just wish the Saints' had injured more of them, like they were so obviously trying to do to the Saints', with success I might add. Oh, did you see the guy twist Graham's right arm back while he was rolling the other way? uh, they went 85 yards in 1 minute 37 seconds, r u serious with the somebody lost somebody won thing. Nothing against you bro, but no frigan way that should have happened. 85 frigan yards man

01-15-2012, 01:36 AM	#5
gandhi1007 Part Time Pimp Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,967	Originally Posted by spkb25 uh, they went 85 yards in 1 minute 37 seconds, r u serious with the somebody lost somebody won thing. Nothing against you bro, but no frigan way that should have happened. 85 frigan yards man ......with Alex Smith as their QB.....Alex freakin' Smith!!!!!! Piss poor defense!

01-15-2012, 11:03 AM	#6
mike27 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 104 Blog Entries: 2	Originally Posted by spkb25 uh, they went 85 yards in 1 minute 37 seconds, r u serious with the somebody lost somebody won thing. Nothing against you bro, but no frigan way that should have happened. 85 frigan yards man So, like you I can cite two of the five turnovers, and say the offense sucks? No way. Sorry, if you look at the whole game, and the defense having to compensate for the offensive mistakes, they did great. Believe me, if we'd have had one or two less turnovers, just that slightly better statistic, we'd have won. You've obviously got some kind of agenda here. Five turnovers isn't just a lot. It's a HUGE number, and they weren't made by the defense. I don't understand your blindness to this very obvious fact.

01-15-2012, 10:23 AM	#1
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Because we gave them 6 more free chances to beat us.... I agree with that to a point,6 turnovers to a sub- par offense and the D got the job done to that point, but they could not keep the lead when we got it. Forget the turnovers we crawled and scratched back hard to overcome the 6 tunrovers and did, just to watch our D blow up in the final 5 minutes of the game. We had the lead!! The D blew the lead!!

01-14-2012, 08:29 PM	#7
LBCutta 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Killeen, TX....Born in Marrero, LA Posts: 592	Greg Williams had one good year here as DC...Thats it. The other years Brees bailed him out......He will fail wherever he goes because he wont have a HOF QB to save his ass every week. My 2 year old daughter can put on a ****ing Motorola headset and call blitzes all damn day! We need someone that is going to be a real DC...not a non-playcalling idiot!

01-14-2012, 08:30 PM	#8
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	to play williams defense you need perfect play from your secondary. but we give to much cushion and results in bend do not break approach. you will get burned. But to his defense the saints have not addressed some needs on defense since he got here.

01-14-2012, 08:43 PM	#9
Marlboro Man 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,469	Guys, my heart is broken. I have followed this team since 1967. I have endured jokes, insults and every thing you can imagine because of being a fan of this team and I have taken it, I have waited until next year for so long it's not even funny. My best friend died without even seeing this poor excuse of a franchise have a winning season. My Grandfather and Grandmother both died without seeing them have a winning season. My father is the only one besides myself that even saw a winning season. I am the only one to have finally seen us win a Super Bowl. I am now beginning to doubt that even with all the talent we have on this team. Talent that I personally believe should win at least 2 more Super Bowls, we will never see that again in the next 40 years. Three years we have been trying to build a defense and this is what we get? Were those efforts even serious or just window dressing. Why Sharper wasn't signed this year so that Jenkins could digress and disappear and become a nobody on defense. At least when Sharper was here Jenkins played well. It's sickening to see Harper play or act like he's playing. This guy has got to be THE worst S in the league. Our DB's have forgotten how to look for the ball while playing pass defense. You know why we haven't gotten the To's this year? Because we haven't tried to get them. Look at the 49ers and the way they go after the ball and then look at what we do. I have sacrificed way too much to follow and support this kind of garbage that the Saints put out on that field tonight, and I for one am not believing the BS from this team any longer, I'm done until I see some real improvement on the defensive side of the ball and SP get over the disease of not running the ball enough. I truely believe that there isn't a team in the league that should be able to beat the Saints unless we come out and put forth as pathetic and effort as the one they put out tonight. I am ashamed to say that I am a Saints fan today. I am sick and tired of being embarrassed because of these kinds of performances by this team and I am no longer going to spend the money, time or emotional investment in this team that doesn't give a damn about itself or it's city or it's fans buy putting on a performance like that. Congratulations, Frisco, you deserved to win the game. You wanted it more, you showed more passion, fire and determination. It was a well deserved win. You are right, the Saints can't stand on the same field with you. The sports pundits are right too, the Saints can't win on the road, outdoors on the grass and no one can say any different because we just proved that we can't. This defense should be ashamed of the way they have played the last two years, and should take a separate flight home so they don't get any of that LOSER stuff on our offense. I'm going to take a very long time off from the Saints. I don't know if I'll ever come back and be a fan again. This was a disgusting discrace to the fans.
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01-14-2012, 08:54 PM	#10
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Originally Posted by Marlboro Man Guys, my heart is broken. I have followed this team since 1967. I have endured jokes, insults and every thing you can imagine because of being a fan of this team and I have taken it, I have waited until next year for so long it's not even funny. My best friend died without even seeing this poor excuse of a franchise have a winning season. My Grandfather and Grandmother both died without seeing them have a winning season. My father is the only one besides myself that even saw a winning season. I am the only one to have finally seen us win a Super Bowl. I am now beginning to doubt that even with all the talent we have on this team. Talent that I personally believe should win at least 2 more Super Bowls, we will never see that again in the next 40 years. Three years we have been trying to build a defense and this is what we get? Were those efforts even serious or just window dressing. Why Sharper wasn't signed this year so that Jenkins could digress and disappear and become a nobody on defense. At least when Sharper was here Jenkins played well. It's sickening to see Harper play or act like he's playing. This guy has got to be THE worst S in the league. Our DB's have forgotten how to look for the ball while playing pass defense. You know why we haven't gotten the To's this year? Because we haven't tried to get them. Look at the 49ers and the way they go after the ball and then look at what we do. I have sacrificed way too much to follow and support this kind of garbage that the Saints put out on that field tonight, and I for one am not believing the BS from this team any longer, I'm done until I see some real improvement on the defensive side of the ball and SP get over the disease of not running the ball enough. I truely believe that there isn't a team in the league that should be able to beat the Saints unless we come out and put forth as pathetic and effort as the one they put out tonight. I am ashamed to say that I am a Saints fan today. I am sick and tired of being embarrassed because of these kinds of performances by this team and I am no longer going to spend the money, time or emotional investment in this team that doesn't give a damn about itself or it's city or it's fans buy putting on a performance like that. Congratulations, Frisco, you deserved to win the game. You wanted it more, you showed more passion, fire and determination. It was a well deserved win. You are right, the Saints can't stand on the same field with you. The sports pundits are right too, the Saints can't win on the road, outdoors on the grass and no one can say any different because we just proved that we can't. This defense should be ashamed of the way they have played the last two years, and should take a separate flight home so they don't get any of that LOSER stuff on our offense. I'm going to take a very long time off from the Saints. I don't know if I'll ever come back and be a fan again. This was a disgusting discrace to the fans. Wow..talking about jumping off a cliff. I know you are upset just like the rest of us but damn. I haven't been through as many bad years I am only 38 but I have seen enough. I still love my team and always will. They represent us and my city good or bad. We made it to the divisional round..24 others teams can't say that. I think some of your points are just heat of the moment stuff. I wish we could have run more but lets get real. 49's D is #1 in run defense. We gave the ball to who has been our savior since he got here. Our D needs some serious improvement and it starts with the one calling the plays. So please back off the ledge and come have a beer and weep along with the rest of us. Rueben Mayes likes this.

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