greg williams is a dumb @ss!!

halloween 65 · 01-14-2012, 09:03 PM

Originally Posted by CharityMike

Wow..talking about jumping off a cliff. I know you are upset just like the rest of us but damn.

I haven't been through as many bad years I am only 38 but I have seen enough. I still love my team and always will. They represent us and my city good or bad. We made it to the divisional round..24 others teams can't say that.

I think some of your points are just heat of the moment stuff. I wish we could have run more but lets get real. 49's D is #1 in run defense. We gave the ball to who has been our savior since he got here. Our D needs some serious improvement and it starts with the one calling the plays.

So please back off the ledge and come have a beer and weep along with the rest of us.

I've been through those years, every damn one of them and I have never thought about leaving this team 1 time, their my Saints, win or lose. Losing has left a bad, bad taste in my mouth many, many times. Winning taste good but everyone knows your not going to every time, so if he leaves all I will say is BYE...

Hayduke · 01-14-2012, 09:03 PM

Marlboro Man,

My Dad was a Bills fan when I was growing up. Talk about a tough team to like.

But if we resign Brees and get a new DC, I think we will win a superbowl or 2. We have the talent, just not the defense.

People who have been Saints fans threw the bad time and never gave up that is something. They were fans through think and thin and I think if anything you should be proud of their fandom and continue the tradition for them.

I have a feeling Payton, Loomis, and Brees ain't going anywhere anytime soon and there will be more celebration to come.

gandhi1007 · 01-14-2012, 09:07 PM

Originally Posted by Marlboro Man

Guys, my heart is broken. I have followed this team since 1967. I have endured jokes, insults and every thing you can imagine because of being a fan of this team and I have taken it, I have waited until next year for so long it's not even funny. My best friend died without even seeing this poor excuse of a franchise have a winning season. My Grandfather and Grandmother both died without seeing them have a winning season. My father is the only one besides myself that even saw a winning season. I am the only one to have finally seen us win a Super Bowl. I am now beginning to doubt that even with all the talent we have on this team. Talent that I personally believe should win at least 2 more Super Bowls, we will never see that again in the next 40 years.

Three years we have been trying to build a defense and this is what we get? Were those efforts even serious or just window dressing. Why Sharper wasn't signed this year so that Jenkins could digress and disappear and become a nobody on defense. At least when Sharper was here Jenkins played well. It's sickening to see Harper play or act like he's playing. This guy has got to be THE worst S in the league. Our DB's have forgotten how to look for the ball while playing pass defense. You know why we haven't gotten the To's this year? Because we haven't tried to get them. Look at the 49ers and the way they go after the ball and then look at what we do.

I have sacrificed way too much to follow and support this kind of garbage that the Saints put out on that field tonight, and I for one am not believing the BS from this team any longer, I'm done until I see some real improvement on the defensive side of the ball and SP get over the disease of not running the ball enough. I truely believe that there isn't a team in the league that should be able to beat the Saints unless we come out and put forth as pathetic and effort as the one they put out tonight. I am ashamed to say that I am a Saints fan today. I am sick and tired of being embarrassed because of these kinds of performances by this team and I am no longer going to spend the money, time or emotional investment in this team that doesn't give a damn about itself or it's city or it's fans buy putting on a performance like that.

Congratulations, Frisco, you deserved to win the game. You wanted it more, you showed more passion, fire and determination. It was a well deserved win. You are right, the Saints can't stand on the same field with you. The sports pundits are right too, the Saints can't win on the road, outdoors on the grass and no one can say any different because we just proved that we can't. This defense should be ashamed of the way they have played the last two years, and should take a separate flight home so they don't get any of that LOSER stuff on our offense. I'm going to take a very long time off from the Saints. I don't know if I'll ever come back and be a fan again. This was a disgusting discrace to the fans.

Wow! I don't see why Roman Harper is getting called out. He actually played well. He almost stopped Vernon Davis' 1st touchdown until Malcolm Jenkins tackled him & he applied the only pressure on Alex Smith all day. Our CB's aren't as bad as you think, either. The problem is we have NO PASS RUSH. Will Smith has fallen off year after year & Cam Jordan is just starting to show something over the past 3 games. DE & OLB are our most glaring needs. QB's have all day. When Alex Smith puts up big numbers passing against you & your team leader for sacks is your SS, you have a problem.

Danno · 01-14-2012, 09:11 PM

Originally Posted by gandhi1007

Wow! I don't see why Roman Harper is getting called out. He actually played well. He almost stopped Vernon Davis' 1st touchdown until Malcolm Jenkins tackled him & he applied the only pressure on Alex Smith all day. Our CB's aren't as bad as you think, either. The problem is we have NO PASS RUSH. Will Smith has fallen off year after year & Cam Jordan is just starting to show something over the past 3 games. DE & OLB are our most glaring needs. QB's have all day. When Alex Smith puts up big numbers passing against you & your team leader for sacks is your SS, you have a problem.

Marlboro Man takes shots at Harper all the time. There's quite a bit of blame to go around, but Harper isn't near the top of the list.

saintsfan1976 · 01-14-2012, 09:13 PM

Originally Posted by gandhi1007

Wow! The problem is we have NO PASS RUSHING DE

There ya go

gandhi1007 · 01-14-2012, 08:48 PM

To use Ray Lewis' words:

"If your offense puts up 28 pts. or more & you lose.......your defense is garbage."

Budsdrinker · 01-14-2012, 08:50 PM

Even Justin Smith with the 49ers said they needed to hold the Saints to 17 points if not they couldn't win because they don't score many points. Sorry but this lost is on GW.

Srgt. Hulka · 01-14-2012, 08:54 PM

This was a FAIL of the whole team.
Brees passes were not as accurate as they normally are. He was throwing behind or short of his receivers all night.
Chris Ivory was a big fat DUD all night yet they kept going to him.
Our safeties DON'T know how to turn around an play the ball. They wait till the recievers catch the ball, then react. It's too late then dammit.
Tracy Porter has done nothing for weeks except watch wide recievers catch the ball 10 yards in front of him.
Sproles running the ball out of the endzone and getting tacked on the 8 yard line was just plain dumb when you see a wall of red in front of you.
When we lost Graham, then Pierre Thomas, it just blew the wind out of tbe whole team, and we never seemed to recover.
I'm sure when I can stomach watching this game again, I will see a lot of other problems, but right now I'm so ****ing pissed I can't even think straight. So this was not just a defensive fail, this was not just an offensive fail, this was not just a special teams fail, this was a TOTAL TEAM FAIL. PERIOD.

WhoDat!656 · 01-14-2012, 09:10 PM

GW better hope Fischer had something better to do than watch this game or he may have lost his next job!!

I wouldn't mind if Saints hired Wade Phillips if GW leaves

Hayduke · 01-14-2012, 09:14 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

GW better hope Fischer had something better to do than watch this game or he may have lost his next job!!

I wouldn't mind if Saints hired Wade Phillips if GW leaves

That won't happen. But that would be the best possible situation.

01-14-2012, 09:03 PM	#2
Hayduke Rookie Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 26	Marlboro Man, My Dad was a Bills fan when I was growing up. Talk about a tough team to like. But if we resign Brees and get a new DC, I think we will win a superbowl or 2. We have the talent, just not the defense. People who have been Saints fans threw the bad time and never gave up that is something. They were fans through think and thin and I think if anything you should be proud of their fandom and continue the tradition for them. I have a feeling Payton, Loomis, and Brees ain't going anywhere anytime soon and there will be more celebration to come.
Hayduke Rookie Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 26

01-14-2012, 09:07 PM	#3
gandhi1007 Part Time Pimp Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,967	Originally Posted by Marlboro Man Guys, my heart is broken. I have followed this team since 1967. I have endured jokes, insults and every thing you can imagine because of being a fan of this team and I have taken it, I have waited until next year for so long it's not even funny. My best friend died without even seeing this poor excuse of a franchise have a winning season. My Grandfather and Grandmother both died without seeing them have a winning season. My father is the only one besides myself that even saw a winning season. I am the only one to have finally seen us win a Super Bowl. I am now beginning to doubt that even with all the talent we have on this team. Talent that I personally believe should win at least 2 more Super Bowls, we will never see that again in the next 40 years. Three years we have been trying to build a defense and this is what we get? Were those efforts even serious or just window dressing. Why Sharper wasn't signed this year so that Jenkins could digress and disappear and become a nobody on defense. At least when Sharper was here Jenkins played well. It's sickening to see Harper play or act like he's playing. This guy has got to be THE worst S in the league. Our DB's have forgotten how to look for the ball while playing pass defense. You know why we haven't gotten the To's this year? Because we haven't tried to get them. Look at the 49ers and the way they go after the ball and then look at what we do. I have sacrificed way too much to follow and support this kind of garbage that the Saints put out on that field tonight, and I for one am not believing the BS from this team any longer, I'm done until I see some real improvement on the defensive side of the ball and SP get over the disease of not running the ball enough. I truely believe that there isn't a team in the league that should be able to beat the Saints unless we come out and put forth as pathetic and effort as the one they put out tonight. I am ashamed to say that I am a Saints fan today. I am sick and tired of being embarrassed because of these kinds of performances by this team and I am no longer going to spend the money, time or emotional investment in this team that doesn't give a damn about itself or it's city or it's fans buy putting on a performance like that. Congratulations, Frisco, you deserved to win the game. You wanted it more, you showed more passion, fire and determination. It was a well deserved win. You are right, the Saints can't stand on the same field with you. The sports pundits are right too, the Saints can't win on the road, outdoors on the grass and no one can say any different because we just proved that we can't. This defense should be ashamed of the way they have played the last two years, and should take a separate flight home so they don't get any of that LOSER stuff on our offense. I'm going to take a very long time off from the Saints. I don't know if I'll ever come back and be a fan again. This was a disgusting discrace to the fans. Wow! I don't see why Roman Harper is getting called out. He actually played well. He almost stopped Vernon Davis' 1st touchdown until Malcolm Jenkins tackled him & he applied the only pressure on Alex Smith all day. Our CB's aren't as bad as you think, either. The problem is we have NO PASS RUSH. Will Smith has fallen off year after year & Cam Jordan is just starting to show something over the past 3 games. DE & OLB are our most glaring needs. QB's have all day. When Alex Smith puts up big numbers passing against you & your team leader for sacks is your SS, you have a problem. Halo and leilung like this.
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01-14-2012, 09:11 PM	#4
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Originally Posted by gandhi1007 Wow! I don't see why Roman Harper is getting called out. He actually played well. He almost stopped Vernon Davis' 1st touchdown until Malcolm Jenkins tackled him & he applied the only pressure on Alex Smith all day. Our CB's aren't as bad as you think, either. The problem is we have NO PASS RUSH. Will Smith has fallen off year after year & Cam Jordan is just starting to show something over the past 3 games. DE & OLB are our most glaring needs. QB's have all day. When Alex Smith puts up big numbers passing against you & your team leader for sacks is your SS, you have a problem. Marlboro Man takes shots at Harper all the time. There's quite a bit of blame to go around, but Harper isn't near the top of the list. halloween 65 likes this.

01-14-2012, 09:13 PM	#5
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,049 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by gandhi1007 Wow! The problem is we have NO PASS RUSHING DE There ya go Halo likes this.

01-14-2012, 08:48 PM	#6
gandhi1007 Part Time Pimp Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,967	To use Ray Lewis' words: "If your offense puts up 28 pts. or more & you lose.......your defense is garbage." Mardigras9 likes this.

01-14-2012, 09:03 PM	#1
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Originally Posted by CharityMike Wow..talking about jumping off a cliff. I know you are upset just like the rest of us but damn. I haven't been through as many bad years I am only 38 but I have seen enough. I still love my team and always will. They represent us and my city good or bad. We made it to the divisional round..24 others teams can't say that. I think some of your points are just heat of the moment stuff. I wish we could have run more but lets get real. 49's D is #1 in run defense. We gave the ball to who has been our savior since he got here. Our D needs some serious improvement and it starts with the one calling the plays. So please back off the ledge and come have a beer and weep along with the rest of us. I've been through those years, every damn one of them and I have never thought about leaving this team 1 time, their my Saints, win or lose. Losing has left a bad, bad taste in my mouth many, many times. Winning taste good but everyone knows your not going to every time, so if he leaves all I will say is BYE...

01-14-2012, 08:50 PM	#7
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Even Justin Smith with the 49ers said they needed to hold the Saints to 17 points if not they couldn't win because they don't score many points. Sorry but this lost is on GW.

01-14-2012, 08:54 PM	#8
Srgt. Hulka 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Shreveport, LA Posts: 4,417	This was a FAIL of the whole team. Brees passes were not as accurate as they normally are. He was throwing behind or short of his receivers all night. Chris Ivory was a big fat DUD all night yet they kept going to him. Our safeties DON'T know how to turn around an play the ball. They wait till the recievers catch the ball, then react. It's too late then dammit. Tracy Porter has done nothing for weeks except watch wide recievers catch the ball 10 yards in front of him. Sproles running the ball out of the endzone and getting tacked on the 8 yard line was just plain dumb when you see a wall of red in front of you. When we lost Graham, then Pierre Thomas, it just blew the wind out of tbe whole team, and we never seemed to recover. I'm sure when I can stomach watching this game again, I will see a lot of other problems, but right now I'm so ****ing pissed I can't even think straight. So this was not just a defensive fail, this was not just an offensive fail, this was not just a special teams fail, this was a TOTAL TEAM FAIL. PERIOD.

01-14-2012, 09:10 PM	#9
WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,094	GW better hope Fischer had something better to do than watch this game or he may have lost his next job!! I wouldn't mind if Saints hired Wade Phillips if GW leaves

01-14-2012, 09:14 PM	#10
Hayduke Rookie Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 26	Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 GW better hope Fischer had something better to do than watch this game or he may have lost his next job!! I wouldn't mind if Saints hired Wade Phillips if GW leaves That won't happen. But that would be the best possible situation.
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