2 years on a row.....

CharityMike · 01-14-2012, 10:31 PM

Originally Posted by G504

In 09, we lived off take-aways. That is the biggest difference. Our secondary needs to report to camp with the WRs until they learn how to freakin' catch! We dropped two picks today. One was right in our laps! And we let them recover two of their own fumbles. We not flying to the ball.

I firmly believe it's because they are not even looking for the ball. Look at that dropped pick by Robinson today..he had no clue the ball was there till it was popping out of his arms. The scheme now is crap. The players are to worried about where they should be that fundamentals have gone out the window.

G504 · 01-14-2012, 10:37 PM

Originally Posted by CharityMike

I firmly believe it's because they are not even looking for the ball. Look at that dropped pick by Robinson today..he had no clue the ball was there till it was popping out of his arms. The scheme now is crap. The players are to worried about where they should be that fundamentals have gone out the window.

Yeah, and maybe getting rid of GW will be the ignition the D needs. Hopefully they'll feel the need to prove themselves to a new coordinator. Just hope the new guy comes in and rips up the depth chart first day of camp and announces "ALL starting positions are an open competition."

gandhi1007 · 01-14-2012, 10:39 PM

Originally Posted by G504

Just hope the new guy comes in and rips up the depth chart first day of camp and announces "ALL starting positions are an open competition."

AMEN!!! There would be alot of worried faces on the front seven.

WhoDat!656 · 01-14-2012, 10:39 PM

Deuce and Sharper weren't brought back because of injury.

Horn pissed SP off?; plus he was injuried before '06 playoffs.

G504 · 01-14-2012, 10:47 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

Deuce and Sharper weren't brought back because of injury.

Horn pissed SP off?; plus he was injuried before '06 playoffs.

Yeah, but we also signed Brees, Vilma, and Sharper himself after their respective teams lost faith after big injuries. So you would think we'd know big time players can have a 2nd life after a season ending injury.

halloween 65 · 01-14-2012, 11:07 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

In '09 we had a secondary coach; he is now the Broncos defensive coordinator

I agree.

WHO_DAT_CAT · 01-14-2012, 11:40 PM

I'm sure you guys know more about football than I do. But, I will risk putting my two cents in.

With all the heat, GW relies heavily on the secondary. If the secondary has a bad day...we are exposed. We aren't getting enough pressure up front. Today, he played man, when zone probably would have been a better choice. That said, obviously, our D kept us in this game. After, a zillion turnovers in the first quarter, if it hadn't been for our D, the ship would have been sunk mid-3rd quarter.

The O-line caved in the 4th quarter. I also didn't like the play calling in the 2nd overall. But, because the O-line was caving in the 4th, I'm not sure what would have worked better.

Special teams turned the ball over and wasn't able to gain substantial yardage most of the season. (Although, the P. Robinson blocked field goal against Atlanta was very special.)

If we are going to critique, there's lots of stuff to look at on all sides of the ball to me.

westbankdaze · 01-14-2012, 11:48 PM

Originally Posted by WHO_DAT_CAT

I'm sure you guys know more about football than I do. But, I will risk putting my two cents in.

With all the heat, GW relies heavily on the secondary. If the secondary has a bad day...we are exposed. We aren't getting enough pressure up front. Today, he played man, when zone probably would have been a better choice. That said, obviously, our D kept us in this game. After, a zillion turnovers in the first quarter, if it hadn't been for our D, the ship would have been sunk mid-3rd quarter.

The O-line caved in the 4th quarter. I also didn't like the play calling in the 2nd overall. But, because the O-line was caving in the 4th, I'm not sure what would have worked better.

Special teams turned the ball over and wasn't able to gain substantial yardage most of the season. (Although, the P. Robinson blocked field goal against Atlanta was very special.)

If we are going to critique, there's lots of stuff to look at on all sides of the ball to me.

Think about it another way. After Sproles scored his TD we were ahead with 4 min left in the game. You can basically erase everything that happened before that in the game. We were up a score and just needed our defense to just keep doing what they had been doing all game long. What the heck changed on the 49ers last two drives? How do we let smith go 165 yards and two TDs in less than a few minutes???? We had him contained the whole game and then just let him gut is? Alex freaking smith - I mean really???

CharityMike · 01-14-2012, 11:58 PM

Originally Posted by westbankdaze

Think about it another way. After Sproles scored his TD we were ahead with 4 min left in the game. You can basically erase everything that happened before that in the game. We were up a score and just needed our defense to just keep doing what they had been doing all game long. What the heck changed on the 49ers last two drives? How do we let smith go 165 yards and two TDs in less than a few minutes???? We had him contained the whole game and then just let him gut is? Alex freaking smith - I mean really???

This is what hurts the most.

WHO_DAT_CAT · 01-15-2012, 12:06 AM

Originally Posted by westbankdaze

Think about it another way. After Sproles scored his TD we were ahead with 4 min left in the game. You can basically erase everything that happened before that in the game. We were up a score and just needed our defense to just keep doing what they had been doing all game long. What the heck changed on the 49ers last two drives? How do we let smith go 165 yards and two TDs in less than a few minutes???? We had him contained the whole game and then just let him gut is? Alex freaking smith - I mean really???

Not gonna argue, WestBank. I was shocked at the way our defense played in the last 4 minutes and especially in the last 1:47. I was wondering why we didn't do better clock management on offense in the last drive - but I'm sure no one knew Graham would break that one.

I'm just trying to look at the game and our performance from an entire game / season point-of-view. We can come back from a large point deficit and we did today. But, now, I just think we need to look at specific areas that did not work today -- for the future.

This, to me was an amazing season. We won the division. We beat the f*ckin Falcons TWICE. And, we're 13-3. Do I want another SuperBowl? You bet your a$$ I do! But, I also just want to acknowledge what we accomplished this year and look at what we can fix next year. This was disappointing to me, but not crushing. It's a game and I enjoyed the whole season.

01-14-2012, 10:31 PM	#11
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Originally Posted by G504 In 09, we lived off take-aways. That is the biggest difference. Our secondary needs to report to camp with the WRs until they learn how to freakin' catch! We dropped two picks today. One was right in our laps! And we let them recover two of their own fumbles. We not flying to the ball. I firmly believe it's because they are not even looking for the ball. Look at that dropped pick by Robinson today..he had no clue the ball was there till it was popping out of his arms. The scheme now is crap. The players are to worried about where they should be that fundamentals have gone out the window.

01-14-2012, 10:37 PM	#12
G504 100th Post Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Miami Posts: 424	Originally Posted by CharityMike I firmly believe it's because they are not even looking for the ball. Look at that dropped pick by Robinson today..he had no clue the ball was there till it was popping out of his arms. The scheme now is crap. The players are to worried about where they should be that fundamentals have gone out the window. Yeah, and maybe getting rid of GW will be the ignition the D needs. Hopefully they'll feel the need to prove themselves to a new coordinator. Just hope the new guy comes in and rips up the depth chart first day of camp and announces "ALL starting positions are an open competition."

01-14-2012, 10:39 PM	#13
gandhi1007 Part Time Pimp Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,967	Originally Posted by G504 Just hope the new guy comes in and rips up the depth chart first day of camp and announces "ALL starting positions are an open competition." AMEN!!! There would be alot of worried faces on the front seven.

01-14-2012, 10:47 PM	#15
G504 100th Post Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Miami Posts: 424	Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 Deuce and Sharper weren't brought back because of injury. Horn pissed SP off?; plus he was injuried before '06 playoffs. Yeah, but we also signed Brees, Vilma, and Sharper himself after their respective teams lost faith after big injuries. So you would think we'd know big time players can have a 2nd life after a season ending injury.

01-14-2012, 11:07 PM	#16
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| In '09 we had a secondary coach; he is now the Broncos defensive coordinator I agree.

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WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,062	Deuce and Sharper weren't brought back because of injury. Horn pissed SP off?; plus he was injuried before '06 playoffs.

01-14-2012, 11:40 PM	#17
WHO_DAT_CAT 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: California - Bay Area Posts: 386	I'm sure you guys know more about football than I do. But, I will risk putting my two cents in. With all the heat, GW relies heavily on the secondary. If the secondary has a bad day...we are exposed. We aren't getting enough pressure up front. Today, he played man, when zone probably would have been a better choice. That said, obviously, our D kept us in this game. After, a zillion turnovers in the first quarter, if it hadn't been for our D, the ship would have been sunk mid-3rd quarter. The O-line caved in the 4th quarter. I also didn't like the play calling in the 2nd overall. But, because the O-line was caving in the 4th, I'm not sure what would have worked better. Special teams turned the ball over and wasn't able to gain substantial yardage most of the season. (Although, the P. Robinson blocked field goal against Atlanta was very special.) If we are going to critique, there's lots of stuff to look at on all sides of the ball to me.

01-14-2012, 11:48 PM	#18
westbankdaze 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 843	Originally Posted by WHO_DAT_CAT I'm sure you guys know more about football than I do. But, I will risk putting my two cents in. With all the heat, GW relies heavily on the secondary. If the secondary has a bad day...we are exposed. We aren't getting enough pressure up front. Today, he played man, when zone probably would have been a better choice. That said, obviously, our D kept us in this game. After, a zillion turnovers in the first quarter, if it hadn't been for our D, the ship would have been sunk mid-3rd quarter. The O-line caved in the 4th quarter. I also didn't like the play calling in the 2nd overall. But, because the O-line was caving in the 4th, I'm not sure what would have worked better. Special teams turned the ball over and wasn't able to gain substantial yardage most of the season. (Although, the P. Robinson blocked field goal against Atlanta was very special.) If we are going to critique, there's lots of stuff to look at on all sides of the ball to me. Think about it another way. After Sproles scored his TD we were ahead with 4 min left in the game. You can basically erase everything that happened before that in the game. We were up a score and just needed our defense to just keep doing what they had been doing all game long. What the heck changed on the 49ers last two drives? How do we let smith go 165 yards and two TDs in less than a few minutes???? We had him contained the whole game and then just let him gut is? Alex freaking smith - I mean really???
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01-14-2012, 11:58 PM	#19
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Originally Posted by westbankdaze Think about it another way. After Sproles scored his TD we were ahead with 4 min left in the game. You can basically erase everything that happened before that in the game. We were up a score and just needed our defense to just keep doing what they had been doing all game long. What the heck changed on the 49ers last two drives? How do we let smith go 165 yards and two TDs in less than a few minutes???? We had him contained the whole game and then just let him gut is? Alex freaking smith - I mean really??? This is what hurts the most.

01-15-2012, 12:06 AM	#20
WHO_DAT_CAT 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: California - Bay Area Posts: 386	Originally Posted by westbankdaze Think about it another way. After Sproles scored his TD we were ahead with 4 min left in the game. You can basically erase everything that happened before that in the game. We were up a score and just needed our defense to just keep doing what they had been doing all game long. What the heck changed on the 49ers last two drives? How do we let smith go 165 yards and two TDs in less than a few minutes???? We had him contained the whole game and then just let him gut is? Alex freaking smith - I mean really??? Not gonna argue, WestBank. I was shocked at the way our defense played in the last 4 minutes and especially in the last 1:47. I was wondering why we didn't do better clock management on offense in the last drive - but I'm sure no one knew Graham would break that one. I'm just trying to look at the game and our performance from an entire game / season point-of-view. We can come back from a large point deficit and we did today. But, now, I just think we need to look at specific areas that did not work today -- for the future. This, to me was an amazing season. We won the division. We beat the f*ckin Falcons TWICE. And, we're 13-3. Do I want another SuperBowl? You bet your a$$ I do! But, I also just want to acknowledge what we accomplished this year and look at what we can fix next year. This was disappointing to me, but not crushing. It's a game and I enjoyed the whole season. Michigan_SF likes this.