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papz 01-17-2012 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 370955)
Yes, I'm aware of that, but I am only talking about in relation to the 2012 salary and the cap hits of these players, because we have no way of knowing how the salary budgets will develop in the future making the relative evaluations of those high pay latter seasons virtually impossible at this time.

I think I should have quoted jc first. My response was aimed at Bushrod makes more money than Evans... which in reality, he doesn't. Evans gets paid more than a majority of the LT's out there. Back then it wasn't the case, but it's different these days.

Rugby Saint II 01-17-2012 03:30 PM

You know who I want gone. The scout that has seniority and gets to look at the top prospects. Him. He's gone. Whoever is finding these late round gems needs a promotion. Our high draft picks don't seem to pan out. Oh yeah, Sharper should be a defensive coach.

FinSaint 01-17-2012 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 370972)
You know who I want gone. The scout that has seniority and gets to look at the top prospects. Him. He's gone. Whoever is finding these late round gems needs a promotion. Our high draft picks don't seem to pan out. Oh yeah, Sharper should be a defensive coach.


I thought that GW had quite a lot to do with the defensive picks, at least I think I read somewhere SP saying that. Of course the scouts have their own favorites who they try to push, but GW's opinion had a lot of influence on the actual picks.

Danno 01-17-2012 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 370972)
You know who I want gone. The scout that has seniority and gets to look at the top prospects. Him. He's gone. Whoever is finding these late round gems needs a promotion. Our high draft picks don't seem to pan out. Oh yeah, Sharper should be a defensive coach.

I think our top picks are doing OK.

2006
Rd Sel # Player Position School
1 2 Reggie Bush RB USC
2 43 Roman Harper SS Alabama

4 108 Jahri Evans G Bloomsburg
5 135 Rob Ninkovich DE Purdue
6 171 Mike Hass WR Oregon State
6 174 Josh Lay CB Pittsburgh
7 210 Zach Strief T Northwestern
7 252 Marques Colston WR Hofstra

2007 - New Orleans Saints
Rd Sel # Player Position School
1 27 Robert Meachem WR Tennessee
3 66 Usama Young CB Kent State
3 88 Andy Alleman G Akron

4 107 Antonio Pittman RB Ohio State
4 125 Jermon Bushrod T Towson
5 145 David Jones CB Wingate
7 220 Marvin Mitchell LB Tennessee

2008 - New Orleans Saints
Rd Sel # Player Position School
1 7 Sedrick Ellis DT USC
2 40 Tracy Porter CB Indiana

5 144 DeMario Pressley DT North Carolina State
5 164 Carl Nicks T Nebraska
6 178 Taylor Mehlhaff K Wisconsin
7 237 Adrian Arrington WR Michigan

2009 - New Orleans Saints
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL
1 14 Malcolm Jenkins DB Ohio State
4 116 Chip Vaughn SAF Wake Forest
4 118 Stanley Arnoux ILB Wake Forest
5 164 Thomas Morstead P Southern Methodist

2010 - New Orleans Saints
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL
1 32 Patrick Robinson CB Florida State
2 64 Charles Brown T USC
3 95 Jimmy Graham TE Miami (Fla.)

5 158 Matt Tennant C Boston College
7 239 Sean Canfield QB Oregon State

jcp026 01-17-2012 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 370983)
I think our top picks are doing OK.

2006
Rd Sel # Player Position School
1 2 Reggie Bush RB USC
2 43 Roman Harper SS Alabama

4 108 Jahri Evans G Bloomsburg
5 135 Rob Ninkovich DE Purdue
6 171 Mike Hass WR Oregon State
6 174 Josh Lay CB Pittsburgh
7 210 Zach Strief T Northwestern
7 252 Marques Colston WR Hofstra

2007 - New Orleans Saints
Rd Sel # Player Position School
1 27 Robert Meachem WR Tennessee
3 66 Usama Young CB Kent State
3 88 Andy Alleman G Akron

4 107 Antonio Pittman RB Ohio State
4 125 Jermon Bushrod T Towson
5 145 David Jones CB Wingate
7 220 Marvin Mitchell LB Tennessee

2008 - New Orleans Saints
Rd Sel # Player Position School
1 7 Sedrick Ellis DT USC
2 40 Tracy Porter CB Indiana

5 144 DeMario Pressley DT North Carolina State
5 164 Carl Nicks T Nebraska
6 178 Taylor Mehlhaff K Wisconsin
7 237 Adrian Arrington WR Michigan

2009 - New Orleans Saints
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL
1 14 Malcolm Jenkins DB Ohio State
4 116 Chip Vaughn SAF Wake Forest
4 118 Stanley Arnoux ILB Wake Forest
5 164 Thomas Morstead P Southern Methodist

2010 - New Orleans Saints
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL
1 32 Patrick Robinson CB Florida State
2 64 Charles Brown T USC
3 95 Jimmy Graham TE Miami (Fla.)

5 158 Matt Tennant C Boston College
7 239 Sean Canfield QB Oregon State

Why are certain players highlighted?

FinSaint 01-17-2012 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jcp026 (Post 370988)
Why are certain players highlighted?


In regards to the evaluation of the quality of the recent top picks by the Saints.

9thWardDesire 01-17-2012 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by KingCutta (Post 369937)
The whole damn defense! We need some CRIMINALS on defense. Not real criminals but criminals on the field. One that will knock the piss out of someone, fast as hell and take the ball away! We dont have that now and GREGG DUMBASS WILLIAMS cant seem to coach it.

"They ain't got no thugs on the team, just a bunch of church boys"
- RICKEY JACKSON (1994 former Saint as a member of the 49ers in a post-game interview)

9thWardDesire 01-17-2012 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by CharityMike (Post 369989)
Greg Williams: He has run his course here. Mitch mentioned he had a top 10 defense everywhere he has gone except for here. I think he has become such a 1 trick pony, that his "Exotic" blitz's don't strike fear into anyone but our own players that have to execute it.

Marshawn Lynch proved that a year ago in Seattle when he ran over Porter like Jim Brown and hi-stepped into the end zone like Eric Dickerson....

DrewDat 01-17-2012 07:12 PM

I Think Harper Had One Good Year....And He Proves That To Me Every Playoff Game

RaginCajun83 01-17-2012 07:33 PM

Shanle
Shanle
Shanle
Shanle
Shanle

Halo 01-17-2012 07:49 PM

Jason David

gandhi1007 01-17-2012 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Halo (Post 371079)
Jason David

Halo.....are you referring to the LB version of him, whose name I shall not mention anymore (initials are S.S.)??? :-P

Halo 01-18-2012 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by gandhi1007 (Post 371085)
Halo.....are you referring to the LB version of him, whose name I shall not mention anymore (initials are S.S.)??? :-P

How DARE you talk about Shonathan Shilma like that!!!!!

:beer:

gandhi1007 01-18-2012 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Halo (Post 371425)
How DARE you talk about Shonathan Shilma like that!!!!!

:beer:

LMAO. Nah....I give Vilma a slight pass for dealing with a knee injury this year. The other does not get a pass, however, for dealing with an overgrown forehead. LOL.

Halo 01-18-2012 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by gandhi1007 (Post 371445)
LMAO. Nah....I give Vilma a slight pass for dealing with a knee injury this year. The other does not get a pass, however, for dealing with an overgrown forehead. LOL.

Did you see Vilma's team photo this season?

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Aq4ZRKGHw9...oY/s320/JB.jpg

He MAY have one year left in him.... :grandpa:

gandhi1007 01-18-2012 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Halo (Post 371457)
Did you see Vilma's team photo this season?

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Aq4ZRKGHw9...oY/s320/JB.jpg


He MAY have one year left in him.... :grandpa:


LMAO, Halo.......Okay, you win. :-)

xan 01-18-2012 10:31 PM

I think that scheme had more to do with certain defensive players' performance over the last 2 years than talent. Maybe we should wait to see who's selected to be the new DC before calling names for the gallows.

In the meantime, we should get a state law passed banning the Smegma Defense.

gandhi1007 01-18-2012 10:33 PM

......but just so you know I have also seen S.S.'s team picture this year:


http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/...r-Trek-006.jpg

Halo 01-18-2012 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by gandhi1007 (Post 371468)
......but just so you know I have also seen S.S.'s team picture this year:


http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/...r-Trek-006.jpg

That's a big change from last year's team pic. Must be on roids again...
2010 S.S.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-t8PKWJqK5N...s1600/bald.jpg

RockyMountainSaint 01-19-2012 12:11 AM

So now, we eat our own?


The Dude 01-19-2012 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Belair57 (Post 369837)
I wouldnt mind seeing Rogers gone..dude is past his prime and didnt do crap all year

also

Jenkins, no more of him. Im done with him

GW..the scheme is a joke.

Meachem, Devery, Will Smith, Shanle, Porter, Vilma, and that is just a start. Meach and Devery more so to free up cap space as I think we can plug in cheaper options without a drop off. Smith gets paid too much for his almost sack production. Shanle is just Shanle, Porter has not done a thing since the Super Bowl, and Vilma has lost a step and is another one who we can replace cheaper without a drop off. I am also not very impressed with Sedrick Ellis. Who knows though maybe our new coordinator can get something out of him we have not seen yet. BTW where the hell was Cam Jorden this year? How did he fair? I did not hear or see much of him.


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