List the player or players you want gone

papz · 01-17-2012, 04:28 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

Yes, I'm aware of that, but I am only talking about in relation to the 2012 salary and the cap hits of these players, because we have no way of knowing how the salary budgets will develop in the future making the relative evaluations of those high pay latter seasons virtually impossible at this time.

I think I should have quoted jc first. My response was aimed at Bushrod makes more money than Evans... which in reality, he doesn't. Evans gets paid more than a majority of the LT's out there. Back then it wasn't the case, but it's different these days.

Rugby Saint II · 01-17-2012, 04:30 PM

You know who I want gone. The scout that has seniority and gets to look at the top prospects. Him. He's gone. Whoever is finding these late round gems needs a promotion. Our high draft picks don't seem to pan out. Oh yeah, Sharper should be a defensive coach.

FinSaint · 01-17-2012, 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

You know who I want gone. The scout that has seniority and gets to look at the top prospects. Him. He's gone. Whoever is finding these late round gems needs a promotion. Our high draft picks don't seem to pan out. Oh yeah, Sharper should be a defensive coach.

I thought that GW had quite a lot to do with the defensive picks, at least I think I read somewhere SP saying that. Of course the scouts have their own favorites who they try to push, but GW's opinion had a lot of influence on the actual picks.

Danno · 01-17-2012, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

You know who I want gone. The scout that has seniority and gets to look at the top prospects. Him. He's gone. Whoever is finding these late round gems needs a promotion. Our high draft picks don't seem to pan out. Oh yeah, Sharper should be a defensive coach.

I think our top picks are doing OK.

2006
Rd Sel # Player Position School
1 2 Reggie Bush RB USC
2 43 Roman Harper SS Alabama
4 108 Jahri Evans G Bloomsburg
5 135 Rob Ninkovich DE Purdue
6 171 Mike Hass WR Oregon State
6 174 Josh Lay CB Pittsburgh
7 210 Zach Strief T Northwestern
7 252 Marques Colston WR Hofstra

2007 - New Orleans Saints
Rd Sel # Player Position School
1 27 Robert Meachem WR Tennessee
3 66 Usama Young CB Kent State
3 88 Andy Alleman G Akron
4 107 Antonio Pittman RB Ohio State
4 125 Jermon Bushrod T Towson
5 145 David Jones CB Wingate
7 220 Marvin Mitchell LB Tennessee

2008 - New Orleans Saints
Rd Sel # Player Position School
1 7 Sedrick Ellis DT USC
2 40 Tracy Porter CB Indiana
5 144 DeMario Pressley DT North Carolina State
5 164 Carl Nicks T Nebraska
6 178 Taylor Mehlhaff K Wisconsin
7 237 Adrian Arrington WR Michigan

2009 - New Orleans Saints
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL
1 14 Malcolm Jenkins DB Ohio State
4 116 Chip Vaughn SAF Wake Forest
4 118 Stanley Arnoux ILB Wake Forest
5 164 Thomas Morstead P Southern Methodist

2010 - New Orleans Saints
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL
1 32 Patrick Robinson CB Florida State
2 64 Charles Brown T USC
3 95 Jimmy Graham TE Miami (Fla.)
5 158 Matt Tennant C Boston College
7 239 Sean Canfield QB Oregon State

jcp026 · 01-17-2012, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I think our top picks are doing OK.

2006
Rd Sel # Player Position School
1 2 Reggie Bush RB USC
2 43 Roman Harper SS Alabama
4 108 Jahri Evans G Bloomsburg
5 135 Rob Ninkovich DE Purdue
6 171 Mike Hass WR Oregon State
6 174 Josh Lay CB Pittsburgh
7 210 Zach Strief T Northwestern
7 252 Marques Colston WR Hofstra

2007 - New Orleans Saints
Rd Sel # Player Position School
1 27 Robert Meachem WR Tennessee
3 66 Usama Young CB Kent State
3 88 Andy Alleman G Akron
4 107 Antonio Pittman RB Ohio State
4 125 Jermon Bushrod T Towson
5 145 David Jones CB Wingate
7 220 Marvin Mitchell LB Tennessee

2008 - New Orleans Saints
Rd Sel # Player Position School
1 7 Sedrick Ellis DT USC
2 40 Tracy Porter CB Indiana
5 144 DeMario Pressley DT North Carolina State
5 164 Carl Nicks T Nebraska
6 178 Taylor Mehlhaff K Wisconsin
7 237 Adrian Arrington WR Michigan

2009 - New Orleans Saints
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL
1 14 Malcolm Jenkins DB Ohio State
4 116 Chip Vaughn SAF Wake Forest
4 118 Stanley Arnoux ILB Wake Forest
5 164 Thomas Morstead P Southern Methodist

2010 - New Orleans Saints
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL
1 32 Patrick Robinson CB Florida State
2 64 Charles Brown T USC
3 95 Jimmy Graham TE Miami (Fla.)
5 158 Matt Tennant C Boston College
7 239 Sean Canfield QB Oregon State

Why are certain players highlighted?

FinSaint · 01-17-2012, 05:21 PM

Originally Posted by jcp026

Why are certain players highlighted?

In regards to the evaluation of the quality of the recent top picks by the Saints.

9thWardDesire · 01-17-2012, 07:55 PM

Originally Posted by KingCutta

The whole damn defense! We need some CRIMINALS on defense. Not real criminals but criminals on the field. One that will knock the piss out of someone, fast as hell and take the ball away! We dont have that now and GREGG DUMBASS WILLIAMS cant seem to coach it.

"They ain't got no thugs on the team, just a bunch of church boys"
- RICKEY JACKSON (1994 former Saint as a member of the 49ers in a post-game interview)

9thWardDesire · 01-17-2012, 08:02 PM

Originally Posted by CharityMike

Greg Williams: He has run his course here. Mitch mentioned he had a top 10 defense everywhere he has gone except for here. I think he has become such a 1 trick pony, that his "Exotic" blitz's don't strike fear into anyone but our own players that have to execute it.

Marshawn Lynch proved that a year ago in Seattle when he ran over Porter like Jim Brown and hi-stepped into the end zone like Eric Dickerson....

DrewDat · 01-17-2012, 08:12 PM

I Think Harper Had One Good Year....And He Proves That To Me Every Playoff Game

RaginCajun83 · 01-17-2012, 08:33 PM

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01-17-2012, 04:28 PM	#81
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,754	Originally Posted by FinSaint Yes, I'm aware of that, but I am only talking about in relation to the 2012 salary and the cap hits of these players, because we have no way of knowing how the salary budgets will develop in the future making the relative evaluations of those high pay latter seasons virtually impossible at this time. I think I should have quoted jc first. My response was aimed at Bushrod makes more money than Evans... which in reality, he doesn't. Evans gets paid more than a majority of the LT's out there. Back then it wasn't the case, but it's different these days.

01-17-2012, 04:48 PM	#83
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II You know who I want gone. The scout that has seniority and gets to look at the top prospects. Him. He's gone. Whoever is finding these late round gems needs a promotion. Our high draft picks don't seem to pan out. Oh yeah, Sharper should be a defensive coach. I thought that GW had quite a lot to do with the defensive picks, at least I think I read somewhere SP saying that. Of course the scouts have their own favorites who they try to push, but GW's opinion had a lot of influence on the actual picks.

01-17-2012, 04:53 PM	#84
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II You know who I want gone. The scout that has seniority and gets to look at the top prospects. Him. He's gone. Whoever is finding these late round gems needs a promotion. Our high draft picks don't seem to pan out. Oh yeah, Sharper should be a defensive coach. I think our top picks are doing OK. 2006 Rd Sel # Player Position School 1 2 Reggie Bush RB USC 2 43 Roman Harper SS Alabama 4 108 Jahri Evans G Bloomsburg 5 135 Rob Ninkovich DE Purdue 6 171 Mike Hass WR Oregon State 6 174 Josh Lay CB Pittsburgh 7 210 Zach Strief T Northwestern 7 252 Marques Colston WR Hofstra 2007 - New Orleans Saints Rd Sel # Player Position School 1 27 Robert Meachem WR Tennessee 3 66 Usama Young CB Kent State 3 88 Andy Alleman G Akron 4 107 Antonio Pittman RB Ohio State 4 125 Jermon Bushrod T Towson 5 145 David Jones CB Wingate 7 220 Marvin Mitchell LB Tennessee 2008 - New Orleans Saints Rd Sel # Player Position School 1 7 Sedrick Ellis DT USC 2 40 Tracy Porter CB Indiana 5 144 DeMario Pressley DT North Carolina State 5 164 Carl Nicks T Nebraska 6 178 Taylor Mehlhaff K Wisconsin 7 237 Adrian Arrington WR Michigan 2009 - New Orleans Saints RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL 1 14 Malcolm Jenkins DB Ohio State 4 116 Chip Vaughn SAF Wake Forest 4 118 Stanley Arnoux ILB Wake Forest 5 164 Thomas Morstead P Southern Methodist 2010 - New Orleans Saints RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL 1 32 Patrick Robinson CB Florida State 2 64 Charles Brown T USC 3 95 Jimmy Graham TE Miami (Fla.) 5 158 Matt Tennant C Boston College 7 239 Sean Canfield QB Oregon State

01-17-2012, 05:15 PM	#85
jcp026 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 951	Originally Posted by Danno I think our top picks are doing OK. 2006 Rd Sel # Player Position School 1 2 Reggie Bush RB USC 2 43 Roman Harper SS Alabama 4 108 Jahri Evans G Bloomsburg 5 135 Rob Ninkovich DE Purdue 6 171 Mike Hass WR Oregon State 6 174 Josh Lay CB Pittsburgh 7 210 Zach Strief T Northwestern 7 252 Marques Colston WR Hofstra 2007 - New Orleans Saints Rd Sel # Player Position School 1 27 Robert Meachem WR Tennessee 3 66 Usama Young CB Kent State 3 88 Andy Alleman G Akron 4 107 Antonio Pittman RB Ohio State 4 125 Jermon Bushrod T Towson 5 145 David Jones CB Wingate 7 220 Marvin Mitchell LB Tennessee 2008 - New Orleans Saints Rd Sel # Player Position School 1 7 Sedrick Ellis DT USC 2 40 Tracy Porter CB Indiana 5 144 DeMario Pressley DT North Carolina State 5 164 Carl Nicks T Nebraska 6 178 Taylor Mehlhaff K Wisconsin 7 237 Adrian Arrington WR Michigan 2009 - New Orleans Saints RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL 1 14 Malcolm Jenkins DB Ohio State 4 116 Chip Vaughn SAF Wake Forest 4 118 Stanley Arnoux ILB Wake Forest 5 164 Thomas Morstead P Southern Methodist 2010 - New Orleans Saints RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL 1 32 Patrick Robinson CB Florida State 2 64 Charles Brown T USC 3 95 Jimmy Graham TE Miami (Fla.) 5 158 Matt Tennant C Boston College 7 239 Sean Canfield QB Oregon State Why are certain players highlighted?
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01-17-2012, 05:21 PM	#86
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Originally Posted by jcp026 Why are certain players highlighted? In regards to the evaluation of the quality of the recent top picks by the Saints.

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01-17-2012, 04:30 PM	#82
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,073	You know who I want gone. The scout that has seniority and gets to look at the top prospects. Him. He's gone. Whoever is finding these late round gems needs a promotion. Our high draft picks don't seem to pan out. Oh yeah, Sharper should be a defensive coach.

01-17-2012, 07:55 PM	#87
9thWardDesire The Owner Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New Orleans, LA (10/1/13) Posts: 791	Originally Posted by KingCutta The whole damn defense! We need some CRIMINALS on defense. Not real criminals but criminals on the field. One that will knock the piss out of someone, fast as hell and take the ball away! We dont have that now and GREGG DUMBASS WILLIAMS cant seem to coach it. "They ain't got no thugs on the team, just a bunch of church boys" - RICKEY JACKSON (1994 former Saint as a member of the 49ers in a post-game interview)

01-17-2012, 08:02 PM	#88
9thWardDesire The Owner Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New Orleans, LA (10/1/13) Posts: 791	Originally Posted by CharityMike Greg Williams: He has run his course here. Mitch mentioned he had a top 10 defense everywhere he has gone except for here. I think he has become such a 1 trick pony, that his "Exotic" blitz's don't strike fear into anyone but our own players that have to execute it. Marshawn Lynch proved that a year ago in Seattle when he ran over Porter like Jim Brown and hi-stepped into the end zone like Eric Dickerson....

01-17-2012, 08:12 PM	#89
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