How Will Spagnuolo Fit With Saints?

FinSaint · 01-20-2012, 07:42 PM

Originally Posted by joker-saint

I couldn't have chosen them better. I still feel like will smith should stay though. He has provided constant pressure on the edge which would open up opportunities for either himself or jenkins to pressure the quarterback. Ellis hasn't done crap since the championship and should be traded while he still has value. He kind of reminds me of. It Norman Hand when he was finished with the Saints. It would be nice to get somebody like Clay Matthews in that position. Who is available?

Well Ellis has very little worth in my mind, since he has that 1st rounder contract going on without the productivity to go along with it... it would be a lower round pick or picks at best. Matthews plays LB and Ellis is a 3-tech DT, so it is hard to compare the two... also the fact that the other plays LB in 3-4 system and the other plays DT in a 4-3 doesn't really give an opportunity to make any fair comparisons in my mind.

gandhi1007 · 01-20-2012, 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by joker-saint

I still feel like will smith should stay though. He has provided constant pressure on the edge

WHEN???????????

Byubengal · 01-19-2012, 08:06 PM

I have to agree with article. The "Spagonator" runs a different type of "D". I don't think we have the guys up front to get the pressure he likes to put on the offense. Some of the young guys we have can possibly be "coached up". But I think he will try and get some guys from the Giants and the Rams, who are young and played under him for a year or two. He can bring them in and possibly work them into the system. If anything it will push the existing guys to "get it" or move on.

QBREES9 · 01-19-2012, 08:26 PM

I think Coach Payton said something like this to Gregg Williams.

I'm not going to fire you. But if your buddy Jeff Fisher gets a head coaching job I suggest you go !

Welcome aboard Coach Spagnoulo. You do have big shoes to fill. He ( Gregg Williams ) did help bring us a Super Bowl.

saintsfan1976 · 01-19-2012, 09:17 PM

Sounds like Jenkins, Greer and Vilma are the only safe bets to return in 2012.

QBREES9 · 01-19-2012, 09:31 PM

Or the question how will the Saints fit with Spagnoulo.

st thomas · 01-19-2012, 10:54 PM

i think spags will rejuvenate this defense that gw just frankly tired out and other teams figured out.

dizzle88 · 01-20-2012, 07:45 AM

Greer was our best defender all season, you have to keep him.
Also keep pat Robinson, he showed improvement towards the end of the season and is a whole lot better than Tracy porter at this moment in time (didn't think I'd be saying that two years ago, when porter picked off manning)
Keep Quddus Aswell, I think he has some instincts at FS that could be used in spags defense

Euphoria · 01-20-2012, 08:04 AM

Keep your eye on Johnny Patrick.

Its going to be refreshing when we are able to prevent BIG plays!

You can't blitz all the time you have to keep them guessing and mix up the coverage. GW benefited because of Sharper and Sharper only.

papz · 01-20-2012, 08:17 AM

I just wanted to throw this out there...

Remember Spags tried to sign Shanle to be a starter in St. Louis last season before he re-upped with the Saints.

01-20-2012, 07:42 PM	#1
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,963	Originally Posted by joker-saint I couldn't have chosen them better. I still feel like will smith should stay though. He has provided constant pressure on the edge which would open up opportunities for either himself or jenkins to pressure the quarterback. Ellis hasn't done crap since the championship and should be traded while he still has value. He kind of reminds me of. It Norman Hand when he was finished with the Saints. It would be nice to get somebody like Clay Matthews in that position. Who is available? Well Ellis has very little worth in my mind, since he has that 1st rounder contract going on without the productivity to go along with it... it would be a lower round pick or picks at best. Matthews plays LB and Ellis is a 3-tech DT, so it is hard to compare the two... also the fact that the other plays LB in 3-4 system and the other plays DT in a 4-3 doesn't really give an opportunity to make any fair comparisons in my mind.

01-20-2012, 07:44 PM	#2
gandhi1007 Part Time Pimp Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,967	Originally Posted by joker-saint I still feel like will smith should stay though. He has provided constant pressure on the edge WHEN??????????? FinSaint likes this.

01-19-2012, 08:26 PM	#4
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,990	I think Coach Payton said something like this to Gregg Williams. I'm not going to fire you. But if your buddy Jeff Fisher gets a head coaching job I suggest you go ! Welcome aboard Coach Spagnoulo. You do have big shoes to fill. He ( Gregg Williams ) did help bring us a Super Bowl.
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01-19-2012, 08:06 PM	#3
Byubengal Registered Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Summerville, South Carolina Posts: 44	I have to agree with article. The "Spagonator" runs a different type of "D". I don't think we have the guys up front to get the pressure he likes to put on the offense. Some of the young guys we have can possibly be "coached up". But I think he will try and get some guys from the Giants and the Rams, who are young and played under him for a year or two. He can bring them in and possibly work them into the system. If anything it will push the existing guys to "get it" or move on.

01-19-2012, 09:17 PM	#5
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,020 Blog Entries: 3	Sounds like Jenkins, Greer and Vilma are the only safe bets to return in 2012.

01-19-2012, 09:31 PM	#6
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,990	Or the question how will the Saints fit with Spagnoulo.

01-19-2012, 10:54 PM	#7
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	i think spags will rejuvenate this defense that gw just frankly tired out and other teams figured out.

01-20-2012, 07:45 AM	#8
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,534	Greer was our best defender all season, you have to keep him. Also keep pat Robinson, he showed improvement towards the end of the season and is a whole lot better than Tracy porter at this moment in time (didn't think I'd be saying that two years ago, when porter picked off manning) Keep Quddus Aswell, I think he has some instincts at FS that could be used in spags defense

01-20-2012, 08:04 AM	#9
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Keep your eye on Johnny Patrick. Its going to be refreshing when we are able to prevent BIG plays! You can't blitz all the time you have to keep them guessing and mix up the coverage. GW benefited because of Sharper and Sharper only.

01-20-2012, 08:17 AM	#10
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,793	I just wanted to throw this out there... Remember Spags tried to sign Shanle to be a starter in St. Louis last season before he re-upped with the Saints.