2012 New Orleans Saints Depth Chart

Danno · 05-01-2012, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

Very good size — well-built and well-proportioned. Has speed to run with tight ends. Showed explosion at the Combine — posted a 371⁄2-inch vertical leap and broad jump of 10 feet 6 inches. Plays with his eyes in zones and drives on throws in front of him. Physical tackler. Has special-teams experience. Dedicated and hardworking. Tough and durable.

Unfortunately, most of those positives don't have anything to do with NFL talent.

FinSaint · 05-01-2012, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Unfortunately, most of those positives don't have anything to do with NFL talent.

Well, I think being a "physical tackler" and possessing a "dedicated and hardworking" mindset to go along with being "tough and durable" can go a long way no matter what position you play in the NFL.

If you ask me, I wish more "higher level" draftees had such characteristics to go along with their supposed talent... and yes, I'm looking at you Ellis.

Danno · 05-01-2012, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

Well, I think being a "physical tackler" and possessing a "dedicated and hardworking" mindset to go along with being "tough and durable" can go a long way no matter what position you play in the NFL.

If you ask me, I wish more "higher level" draftees had such characteristics to go along with their supposed talent... and yes, I'm looking at you Ellis.

But those attributes describe thousands of players that didn't have the talent to make an NFL team.

FinSaint · 05-01-2012, 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

But those attributes describe thousands of players that didn't have the talent to make an NFL team.

Sure, but I choose to look at it from a positive perspective.

Danno · 05-01-2012, 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

Sure, but I choose to look at it from a positive perspective.

As typically do I. But the negatives, like I mentioned, are a huge OUCH!!!

I can't remember when we picked a 5th rounder that was projected to be an UDFA/practice squad candidate. Maybe Stanley Arnoux? But Stanley was a 4th.

FinSaint · 05-02-2012, 08:42 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

As typically do I. But the negatives, like I mentioned, are a huge OUCH!!!

I can't remember when we picked a 5th rounder that was projected to be an UDFA/practice squad candidate. Maybe Stanley Arnoux? But Stanley was a 4th.

I get what you mean, but that evaluation was done based on the combine performance (based on the values used with the overall grade), which wasn't as strong as his Pro Day performance at Samford.

Combine is a hectic experience for many of these young kids and that's why many times the results may not be as flattering as they could be. Now this could obviously be a sign of him not being able to handle the pressure in a tough situation, but in the post draft press conference both Vitt and Spags said that where White really impressed them was the game against Auburn, which was the toughest opponent Samford faced the whole year and a high pressure situation.

The fact that Flajole particularly targeted him as a DB he wanted to add to the secondary does make me feel a whole lot better about the Saints picking him in the 5th, but naturally he could be a bust, just like every other pick.

And sorry JP for hijacking your thread!

05-01-2012, 02:48 PM	#1
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Originally Posted by FinSaint Very good size — well-built and well-proportioned. Has speed to run with tight ends. Showed explosion at the Combine — posted a 371⁄2-inch vertical leap and broad jump of 10 feet 6 inches. Plays with his eyes in zones and drives on throws in front of him. Physical tackler. Has special-teams experience. Dedicated and hardworking. Tough and durable. Unfortunately, most of those positives don't have anything to do with NFL talent.

05-01-2012, 04:03 PM	#2
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,964	Originally Posted by Danno Unfortunately, most of those positives don't have anything to do with NFL talent. Well, I think being a "physical tackler" and possessing a "dedicated and hardworking" mindset to go along with being "tough and durable" can go a long way no matter what position you play in the NFL. If you ask me, I wish more "higher level" draftees had such characteristics to go along with their supposed talent... and yes, I'm looking at you Ellis.

05-01-2012, 04:24 PM	#3
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Originally Posted by FinSaint Well, I think being a "physical tackler" and possessing a "dedicated and hardworking" mindset to go along with being "tough and durable" can go a long way no matter what position you play in the NFL. If you ask me, I wish more "higher level" draftees had such characteristics to go along with their supposed talent... and yes, I'm looking at you Ellis. But those attributes describe thousands of players that didn't have the talent to make an NFL team.

05-01-2012, 04:47 PM	#4
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,964	Originally Posted by Danno But those attributes describe thousands of players that didn't have the talent to make an NFL team. Sure, but I choose to look at it from a positive perspective.

05-01-2012, 05:33 PM	#5
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Originally Posted by FinSaint Sure, but I choose to look at it from a positive perspective. As typically do I. But the negatives, like I mentioned, are a huge OUCH!!! I can't remember when we picked a 5th rounder that was projected to be an UDFA/practice squad candidate. Maybe Stanley Arnoux? But Stanley was a 4th.

05-02-2012, 08:42 AM	#6
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,964	Originally Posted by Danno As typically do I. But the negatives, like I mentioned, are a huge OUCH!!! I can't remember when we picked a 5th rounder that was projected to be an UDFA/practice squad candidate. Maybe Stanley Arnoux? But Stanley was a 4th. I get what you mean, but that evaluation was done based on the combine performance (based on the values used with the overall grade), which wasn't as strong as his Pro Day performance at Samford. Combine is a hectic experience for many of these young kids and that's why many times the results may not be as flattering as they could be. Now this could obviously be a sign of him not being able to handle the pressure in a tough situation, but in the post draft press conference both Vitt and Spags said that where White really impressed them was the game against Auburn, which was the toughest opponent Samford faced the whole year and a high pressure situation. The fact that Flajole particularly targeted him as a DB he wanted to add to the secondary does make me feel a whole lot better about the Saints picking him in the 5th, but naturally he could be a bust, just like every other pick. And sorry JP for hijacking your thread!
	"I'm not bashing people, I'm bashing their opinions because in my opinion their opinion is wrong" - Danno

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