Nicks view on the franchise tag...

BGWhoDat · 02-21-2012, 09:20 PM

$9.4 million times 6 is $56.4, add in the signing bonuses and incentives, and that's basically what he would make anyways.

There's no reason to cry because you have to wait one more season to get your deal. The Saints want you, you want to be a Saint, so shut up and do what's right for the deal.

NFL players are babies now-a-days.

spkb25 · 02-22-2012, 08:15 AM

Originally Posted by biloxi-indian

Fans in New Orleans might want to listen up. Same for fans in Atlanta and Tampa Bay that have their eye on this guy in free agency.

In this Sirius NFL Radio interview with Jim Miller and Rich Gannon, Carl Nicks sounded like a man ready to explore free agency. The New Orleans guard said he hasn’t had any contract talks with the Saints.

“I haven’t talked to (general manager) Mickey (Loomis) at all,’’ said Nicks, who can become an unrestricted free agent on March 13.

Nicks wasn’t asked if his agent was in contact with the Saints. Nicks said he expects the Saints to first sign quarterback Drew Brees to a new deal. The Saints could put a franchise tag on Nicks for $9.4 million.

“I’ve heard a lot of rumors of the franchise tag, which is a lot of money,’’ Nicks said. “If you want to pay me, which I’m not a big fan of, what the franchise tag for an offensive lineman is worth, we might as well work on a deal.’’

Nicks isn’t the only member of the Saints that has a chance to be designated as a franchise player. If the tag isn’t used on Nicks or Brees, it could be used on wide receiver Marques Colston.

Nicks also may have been sending a bit of a message to the front office when asked how he would feel if he is hit with the franchise tag.

“Yes, I’d be upset if I got franchise tagged, straight up and down,’’ Nicks said.

Carl Nicks doesn't want franchise tag - NFC South Blog - ESPN

I appreciate his candor. I can understand where he is coming from. I mean he is losing half of 9.4 to taxes right off the bat. So his agent makes money, what does he end up with? About 4 million for that year, and if he goes down with a career ending injury? He's young, that's not a lot of money to sustain yourself on, especially because they live a different lifestyle than most of us.

That said, it is the rules, so we are well within our rights. I hope we sign him for another 5 years. I'd be happy.

ScottF · 02-22-2012, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by saintfan

I totally get his point, but I'm hard-pressed to imagine getting pissed at 9 million dollars give or take.

9 million in the bank equates to something in the neighborhood of a quarter million in interest, so you bank that cash and live well for the rest of your life.

No, if I'm a player I don't want that tag either, because hell, more is better, but the tag in Nicks' case isn't a bad deal.

and he can thank his budy Evans for pushing the tag minimum way up

Rugby Saint II · 02-22-2012, 02:31 PM

I'm beginning to worry a little about this now.

Srgt. Hulka · 02-22-2012, 02:55 PM

Well, it's just pissing me off, because I think the frikkin front office has gone on frikkin vacation. Now you have guys with bad attitudes. What the hell are they doing down there?! Do they know it's only three weeks until free agency? Dammit FO, get off your rear end and get to frikkin work!

End of Rant!

Danno · 02-22-2012, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by Srgt. Hulka

Well, it's just pissing me off, because I think the frikkin front office has gone on frikkin vacation. Now you have guys with bad attitudes. What the hell are they doing down there?! Do they know it's only three weeks until free agency? Dammit FO, get off your rear end and get to frikkin work!

End of Rant!

You're assuming they aren't working on it?

My guess is they are.

FinSaint · 02-22-2012, 03:08 PM

A lot of this is probably just negotiation tactics from Nicks and his agent, so I wouldn't be worried about it.

ML and the FO will get things done for better or worse before the FA period begins

Srgt. Hulka · 02-22-2012, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

You're assuming they aren't working on it?

My guess is they are.

You are correct Danno, it is an assumption based upon what I see coming out of New Orleans...which is squat. Have you seen any news on any of our FA signing a contract? I haven't. Nicks even said in the article that he hasn't even had any contact with Loomis. Maybe thats code talk for "I'm letting my agent do all of my talking", but I'm like Rugby Saint, I'm starting to get worried.
I'm not a "No news is good news" kind of guy. Can't you tell? LOL

Danno · 02-22-2012, 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by Srgt. Hulka

You are correct Danno, it is an assumption based upon what I see coming out of New Orleans...which is squat. Have you seen any news on any of our FA signing a contract? I haven't. Nicks even said in the article that he hasn't even had any contact with Loomis. Maybe thats code talk for "I'm letting my agent do all of my talking", but I'm like Rugby Saint, I'm starting to get worried.
I'm not a "No news is good news" kind of guy. Can't you tell? LOL

I think that every tweak to Brees' contract affects everything else downstream.

We can't finalize Nicks' contract until we finalize the numbers and the structure of Brees' contract.

I want to keep Nicks and Colston, but its going to depend a lot Brees' final numbers. I think Mickey is working his butt off on several different contracts all at once.

Crusader · 02-22-2012, 05:30 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

I appreciate his candor. I can understand where he is coming from. I mean he is losing half of 9.4 to taxes right off the bat. So his agent makes money, what does he end up with? About 4 million for that year, and if he goes down with a career ending injury? He's young, that's not a lot of money to sustain yourself on, especially because they live a different lifestyle than most of us.

That said, it is the rules, so we are well within our rights. I hope we sign him for another 5 years. I'd be happy.

I could live my hole life on 4 million if I had to. He went to college didn't he? And got a damn good esucation paid for by playing football? I absolutely HATE when athletes whine about the pay they recieve, especially when we talk about anything above a million dollars. Get a damn job and be smart with your money and you can live an above average lifestyle for the rest of your life. I just don't get why they seem to think that 5-8 years in their twenties should pay for the rest of their lives. Disgusting!

02-22-2012, 08:15 AM	#12
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,101	Originally Posted by biloxi-indian Fans in New Orleans might want to listen up. Same for fans in Atlanta and Tampa Bay that have their eye on this guy in free agency. In this Sirius NFL Radio interview with Jim Miller and Rich Gannon, Carl Nicks sounded like a man ready to explore free agency. The New Orleans guard said he hasn’t had any contract talks with the Saints. “I haven’t talked to (general manager) Mickey (Loomis) at all,’’ said Nicks, who can become an unrestricted free agent on March 13. Nicks wasn’t asked if his agent was in contact with the Saints. Nicks said he expects the Saints to first sign quarterback Drew Brees to a new deal. The Saints could put a franchise tag on Nicks for $9.4 million. “I’ve heard a lot of rumors of the franchise tag, which is a lot of money,’’ Nicks said. “If you want to pay me, which I’m not a big fan of, what the franchise tag for an offensive lineman is worth, we might as well work on a deal.’’ Nicks isn’t the only member of the Saints that has a chance to be designated as a franchise player. If the tag isn’t used on Nicks or Brees, it could be used on wide receiver Marques Colston. Nicks also may have been sending a bit of a message to the front office when asked how he would feel if he is hit with the franchise tag. “Yes, I’d be upset if I got franchise tagged, straight up and down,’’ Nicks said. Carl Nicks doesn't want franchise tag - NFC South Blog - ESPN I appreciate his candor. I can understand where he is coming from. I mean he is losing half of 9.4 to taxes right off the bat. So his agent makes money, what does he end up with? About 4 million for that year, and if he goes down with a career ending injury? He's young, that's not a lot of money to sustain yourself on, especially because they live a different lifestyle than most of us. That said, it is the rules, so we are well within our rights. I hope we sign him for another 5 years. I'd be happy.
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02-22-2012, 10:38 AM	#13
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Originally Posted by saintfan I totally get his point, but I'm hard-pressed to imagine getting pissed at 9 million dollars give or take. 9 million in the bank equates to something in the neighborhood of a quarter million in interest, so you bank that cash and live well for the rest of your life. No, if I'm a player I don't want that tag either, because hell, more is better, but the tag in Nicks' case isn't a bad deal. and he can thank his budy Evans for pushing the tag minimum way up

02-22-2012, 02:31 PM	#14
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02-22-2012, 03:07 PM	#16
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Originally Posted by Srgt. Hulka Well, it's just pissing me off, because I think the frikkin front office has gone on frikkin vacation. Now you have guys with bad attitudes. What the hell are they doing down there?! Do they know it's only three weeks until free agency? Dammit FO, get off your rear end and get to frikkin work! End of Rant! You're assuming they aren't working on it? My guess is they are.

02-22-2012, 03:16 PM	#18
Srgt. Hulka 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Shreveport, LA Posts: 4,417	Originally Posted by Danno You're assuming they aren't working on it? My guess is they are. You are correct Danno, it is an assumption based upon what I see coming out of New Orleans...which is squat. Have you seen any news on any of our FA signing a contract? I haven't. Nicks even said in the article that he hasn't even had any contact with Loomis. Maybe thats code talk for "I'm letting my agent do all of my talking", but I'm like Rugby Saint, I'm starting to get worried. I'm not a "No news is good news" kind of guy. Can't you tell? LOL

02-21-2012, 09:20 PM	#11
BGWhoDat Who Dat Writer Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 241	$9.4 million times 6 is $56.4, add in the signing bonuses and incentives, and that's basically what he would make anyways. There's no reason to cry because you have to wait one more season to get your deal. The Saints want you, you want to be a Saint, so shut up and do what's right for the deal. NFL players are babies now-a-days.

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02-22-2012, 02:55 PM	#15
Srgt. Hulka 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Shreveport, LA Posts: 4,417	Well, it's just pissing me off, because I think the frikkin front office has gone on frikkin vacation. Now you have guys with bad attitudes. What the hell are they doing down there?! Do they know it's only three weeks until free agency? Dammit FO, get off your rear end and get to frikkin work! End of Rant!

02-22-2012, 03:08 PM	#17
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	A lot of this is probably just negotiation tactics from Nicks and his agent, so I wouldn't be worried about it. ML and the FO will get things done for better or worse before the FA period begins

02-22-2012, 04:27 PM	#19
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Originally Posted by Srgt. Hulka You are correct Danno, it is an assumption based upon what I see coming out of New Orleans...which is squat. Have you seen any news on any of our FA signing a contract? I haven't. Nicks even said in the article that he hasn't even had any contact with Loomis. Maybe thats code talk for "I'm letting my agent do all of my talking", but I'm like Rugby Saint, I'm starting to get worried. I'm not a "No news is good news" kind of guy. Can't you tell? LOL I think that every tweak to Brees' contract affects everything else downstream. We can't finalize Nicks' contract until we finalize the numbers and the structure of Brees' contract. I want to keep Nicks and Colston, but its going to depend a lot Brees' final numbers. I think Mickey is working his butt off on several different contracts all at once.

02-22-2012, 05:30 PM	#20
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,025	Originally Posted by spkb25 I appreciate his candor. I can understand where he is coming from. I mean he is losing half of 9.4 to taxes right off the bat. So his agent makes money, what does he end up with? About 4 million for that year, and if he goes down with a career ending injury? He's young, that's not a lot of money to sustain yourself on, especially because they live a different lifestyle than most of us. That said, it is the rules, so we are well within our rights. I hope we sign him for another 5 years. I'd be happy. I could live my hole life on 4 million if I had to. He went to college didn't he? And got a damn good esucation paid for by playing football? I absolutely HATE when athletes whine about the pay they recieve, especially when we talk about anything above a million dollars. Get a damn job and be smart with your money and you can live an above average lifestyle for the rest of your life. I just don't get why they seem to think that 5-8 years in their twenties should pay for the rest of their lives. Disgusting! ScottF and skymike like this.
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