Will Smith & Jonathan Vilma could potentially be released

Danno · 02-29-2012, 11:01 PM

Originally Posted by Marlboro Man

How does trading Harper cost us 17 mil., the team you trade him to takes over his contract.

Signing bonus and guaranteed money, spread out over the life of the contract, counts immediately against the cap if the player is cut or traded.

He still has 17 million due in signing bonus and guaranteed money. If we cut/trade him that entire amount counts against our 2012 cap.

The other team will only pick up his yearly salary, but we get stuck with all the bonus money.

ScottF · 03-01-2012, 09:49 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Signing bonus and guaranteed money, spread out over the life of the contract, counts immediately against the cap if the player is cut or traded.

He still has 17 million due in signing bonus and guaranteed money. If we cut/trade him that entire amount counts against our 2012 cap.

The other team will only pick up his yearly salary, but we get stuck with all the bonus money.

which is why trying to circumvent the cap with front end bonuses can bite tyou in the @ss when trying to get rid of a player later

darstep · 03-01-2012, 04:30 PM

Those are player protection dollars. If we agree to a lower salary so that you can free up available money for other guys, I'm OK with it as long as I know I will get my guaranteed money - cut or trade. The team benefitted up front and the player is protected at the back-end. Reggie had $11 million taken right off the table. Players don't like that at all, and I don't blame them.

02-29-2012, 11:01 PM	#31
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Originally Posted by Marlboro Man How does trading Harper cost us 17 mil., the team you trade him to takes over his contract. Signing bonus and guaranteed money, spread out over the life of the contract, counts immediately against the cap if the player is cut or traded. He still has 17 million due in signing bonus and guaranteed money. If we cut/trade him that entire amount counts against our 2012 cap. The other team will only pick up his yearly salary, but we get stuck with all the bonus money.

03-01-2012, 09:49 AM	#32
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Originally Posted by Danno Signing bonus and guaranteed money, spread out over the life of the contract, counts immediately against the cap if the player is cut or traded. He still has 17 million due in signing bonus and guaranteed money. If we cut/trade him that entire amount counts against our 2012 cap. The other team will only pick up his yearly salary, but we get stuck with all the bonus money. which is why trying to circumvent the cap with front end bonuses can bite tyou in the @ss when trying to get rid of a player later

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03-01-2012, 04:30 PM	#33
darstep SaintSince67 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PortCity Posts: 2,044	Those are player protection dollars. If we agree to a lower salary so that you can free up available money for other guys, I'm OK with it as long as I know I will get my guaranteed money - cut or trade. The team benefitted up front and the player is protected at the back-end. Reggie had $11 million taken right off the table. Players don't like that at all, and I don't blame them.