Register All Albums FAQ Community Experience
Go Back   New Orleans Saints Forums - blackandgold.com > Main > Saints

Will Smith & Jonathan Vilma could potentially be released

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; The scary thing about how bad the Saints' defense has been the last two years is the looming fear that it's two most vocal leaders and players of most value, Will Smith and Jonathan Vilma, could be gone. It's not ...

Like Tree11Likes

Closed Thread
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-27-2012, 10:45 PM   #1
10000 POST CLUB
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Shreveport,Louisiana
Posts: 16,062
Question Will Smith & Jonathan Vilma could potentially be released

The scary thing about how bad the Saints' defense has been the last two years is the looming fear that it's two most vocal leaders and players of most value, Will Smith and Jonathan Vilma, could be gone. It's not being talked about because Drew Brees' contract is completely consuming the media/fans and rightfully so. But the Saints are going to be tight up against the cap once Brees is re-signed and the Saints attempt to retain both Carl Nicks and Marques Colston. It seems most people out there are slowly coming to terms with the idea that one of two, between Nicks and Colston, could easily not return to the Saints. If the Saints have any shot of keeping all three though (Brees/Nicks/Colston) it's going to take money to pull it off. Even if one leaves, revamping the roster will come at a cost and the money that would be freed up by releasing both Smith and Vilma is substantial. The other and perhaps more palatable option is whether the Saints can restructure their two contracts to free up space, which would keep them in New Orleans. Lastly, they could just keep paying the two vets' contracts, but I have to

Saints Nation: Could Will Smith and Jonathan Vilma be Released?

"A Veteran is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to "The United States of America" for an amount of "up to and including my life."
WhoDat!656 is offline  
Old 02-27-2012, 11:02 PM   #2
5000 POSTS! +
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana
Posts: 5,893
Good read!!!
halloween 65 is offline  
Old 02-27-2012, 11:43 PM   #3
Moderator
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: New Haven Ct
Posts: 23,985
Not only are they fantastic football players when their bodies are right, they're also captains and they've created the soul and fabric of the locker room. Missing those two personalities on the roster would be as difficult as it is stupid. But, at the end of the day, the NFL is a business.





Could be released, and maybe resign ?

Last edited by QBREES9; 02-27-2012 at 11:46 PM..
QBREES9 is offline  
Old 02-28-2012, 02:30 AM   #4
5000 POSTS! +
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 9,050
i think they restructure. At this point in their careers they are not going to get more anywhere else.
Ashley likes this.
The Dude is offline  
Old 02-28-2012, 03:56 AM   #5
10000 POST CLUB
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 11,358
If Vilma does go then Dunbar could step in and take the MLB spot, the only thing that would be missing would be Vilma's leadership and that's key, however I haven't seen it work very well for the past two years ( GW's fault?)
ChrisXVI likes this.
dizzle88 is offline  
Old 02-28-2012, 02:03 PM   #6
Bounty Money $$$
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA.
Posts: 24,073
Originally Posted by dizzle88 View Post
If Vilma does go then Dunbar could step in and take the MLB spot, the only thing that would be missing would be Vilma's leadership and that's key, however I haven't seen it work very well for the past two years ( GW's fault?)
Personally, I'm not sold on Dunbar yet. For some reason he reminds me of Usama Young.jmho
Rugby Saint II is offline  
Old 02-28-2012, 03:07 PM   #7
5000 POSTS! +
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 6,324
there's rebuilding, and there's stupidity
our defense is better with Vilma on the field, period

Smith is good, but not $8 million good
ScottF is offline  
Old 02-28-2012, 05:40 PM   #8
5000 POSTS! +
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana
Posts: 5,893
It would not hurt my feelings if both left, their leadership not only comes from the locker room but also on the field of play, their field of play is where I have the problem with, for 2 years I've watched Vilma decline and Smith has lost a step the difference between a great DE and Smith is 1 step, I don't think he has it in him anymore. We can replace them, it would not be the end of the world.
darstep likes this.
halloween 65 is offline  
Old 02-28-2012, 06:33 PM   #9
1000 Posts +
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 1,469
I think we're going to see some surprises this offseason and a lot more players replaced than what we're thinking right now. As for myself, I could see moving Jenkins to SS, Quddus to FS, trading Harper and drafting another S. I could also see us trading Will Smith as he is under contract as well as trading Vilma if either or both refuse to re-negotiate. I could also see Sed Ellis replaced as well as shanle, Cassillias and Dunbar. I think there's gonna be a lot of shake up to come.
Marlboro Man is offline  
Old 02-28-2012, 07:17 PM   #10
Truth Addict
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R)
Posts: 24,723
Originally Posted by Marlboro Man View Post
I think we're going to see some surprises this offseason and a lot more players replaced than what we're thinking right now. As for myself, I could see moving Jenkins to SS, Quddus to FS, trading Harper and drafting another S. I could also see us trading Will Smith as he is under contract as well as trading Vilma if either or both refuse to re-negotiate. I could also see Sed Ellis replaced as well as shanle, Cassillias and Dunbar. I think there's gonna be a lot of shake up to come.
How many times does someone have to tell you that trading Harper is a 17 MILLION CAP HIT?

Do you freaking honestly think they'll give up 17 million in 2012 cap space just to get rid of Harper in lieu of keeping him ?

Freaking REALLY DUDE?

2012 CAP RAMIFICATIONS...
KEEP HARPER = 3.6 MILLION
TRADE HARPER = 17 MILLION

Do you just not understand what the salary cap is all about?
FinSaint likes this.
Danno is offline  
Closed Thread


Posting Rules

LinkBacks (?)
LinkBack to this Thread: https://blackandgold.com/saints/41532-will-smith-jonathan-vilma-could-potentially-released.html
Posted By For Type Date Hits
Will Smith & Jonathan Vilma could potentially be released This thread Refback 02-27-2012 11:17 PM 8


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:21 PM.


Copyright 1997 - 2020 - BlackandGold.com
no new posts