Maybe we should trade Brees?

NOS2SB · 03-09-2012, 06:45 AM

After winning the SB, Eli Manning just restructured his contract and saved the Giants a few million dollars. That's what I call a team player.

Tobias-Reiper · 03-09-2012, 07:48 AM

Originally Posted by NOS2SB

After winning the SB, Eli Manning just restructured his contract and saved the Giants a few million dollars. That's what I call a team player.

... sure... of course, Manning has had a much bigger contract during his time in NY than Brees during his time in NO. Brees just played 6 years for 60 mil, and pretty much has been the best QB in the league in that stretch. That's ~20-40 mil less than both Mannings, Vick, Big Ben, Brady, Rivers... less than Kolb, Cassell, Stafford, Bradford...

Oh, and Manning re-structured. Re-structuring doesn't mean salary cut, it is a mere re-shuffling of when Manning gets the money. Matter of fact, according to the NY Daily News, the 9 mil is now guaranteed, which actually works out better for Manning. He may get it now upfront in the form of a bonus, or just spread it along a couple of years.

Supertek · 03-09-2012, 02:00 PM

Hope Brees stays with us and yes he should be pissed. Why for gods sake should he have been paid less than Vick and the rest not even in the top ten. Trade him never especially to Dallas. Need to have this cleared up before training camp. Think Payton is going to take a pay cut? I think not. The team screwed him with the tag and I think not only about the money it is the thought of the whole deal that stinks. I can see the tag being used at times but not to your leader that guy you take care of period.

FinSaint · 03-09-2012, 03:01 PM

Originally Posted by Supertek

Hope Brees stays with us and yes he should be pissed. Why for gods sake should he have been paid less than Vick and the rest not even in the top ten. Trade him never especially to Dallas. Need to have this cleared up before training camp. Think Payton is going to take a pay cut? I think not. The team screwed him with the tag and I think not only about the money it is the thought of the whole deal that stinks. I can see the tag being used at times but not to your leader that guy you take care of period.

After the first sentence, it all became unraveled.

The offers Saints gave to Brees would've made him the highest payed player in the league, but it was the structuring of them that Brees' side couldn't agree to.

The staff's salaries do not count towards the salary cap, which is the issue here - fitting Brees' salary under the cap as well as all the other players'.

The Saints were forced to place the tag on Brees because he turned down the afore mentioned contract offers, he didn't get screwed, but the Saints did because they could no longer place the tag on some other FA.

TheOak · 03-09-2012, 03:12 PM

Why trade for draft pics that Goodell is going to take away?

Or actually trade someone for draft pics that Goodell can take away so we can maintain our present draft pics?

saintfan · 03-09-2012, 03:24 PM

Wait until he takes the draft pic(s) and THEN trade for some. That way we shove it right back up his azz. LOL

And yes, I'm sure the rules of our punishment won't allow for that, but sure sounds sweet doesn't it?

Supertek · 03-09-2012, 03:37 PM

I agree Structure is everything and they should not have loaded it so much at the end. Not sure how the signing bonus would affect that or if they could do more there. They gave Smith a big signing bonus that does not count against the cap maybe because he was under a long term deal already. Force the other non producers on the team to do the same or let them go to make it work. I personally think it was time for them to take care of him that's all. Without Brees or someone like him we will not win very much anyway with this team.

Supertek · 03-09-2012, 04:04 PM

After looking closely at the deal I think Brees could give in some also. Think others will have to restructure to make it happen like others are saying. I think it will happen I do not need to kick the dead horse anymore.

papz · 03-09-2012, 10:43 PM

Redskins acquired the No. 2 overall pick in exchange for three first-round picks, including No. 6 overall this year, and a future second-round selection.

FOX Sports' Jay Glazer reports that St. Louis and Washington will exchange first-round picks this year. The Rams will get two more future first-rounders, likely in 2013 and 2014. The Redskins are now positioned to draft Baylor QB Robert Griffin, or Stanford QB Andrew Luck if the Colts pull a fast one at No. 1. More to come.

Source: Jay Glazer on Twitter

gandhi1007 · 03-09-2012, 11:11 PM

Originally Posted by papz

Redskins acquired the No. 2 overall pick in exchange for three first-round picks, including No. 6 overall this year, and a future second-round selection.

FOX Sports' Jay Glazer reports that St. Louis and Washington will exchange first-round picks this year. The Rams will get two more future first-rounders, likely in 2013 and 2014. The Redskins are now positioned to draft Baylor QB Robert Griffin, or Stanford QB Andrew Luck if the Colts pull a fast one at No. 1. More to come.

Source: Jay Glazer on Twitter

Wow!!! The Skins got hosed like we did for Ricky Williams. Three #1's for RG3? Are they serious???

03-09-2012, 07:48 AM	#22
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Originally Posted by NOS2SB After winning the SB, Eli Manning just restructured his contract and saved the Giants a few million dollars. That's what I call a team player. ... sure... of course, Manning has had a much bigger contract during his time in NY than Brees during his time in NO. Brees just played 6 years for 60 mil, and pretty much has been the best QB in the league in that stretch. That's ~20-40 mil less than both Mannings, Vick, Big Ben, Brady, Rivers... less than Kolb, Cassell, Stafford, Bradford... Oh, and Manning re-structured. Re-structuring doesn't mean salary cut, it is a mere re-shuffling of when Manning gets the money. Matter of fact, according to the NY Daily News, the 9 mil is now guaranteed, which actually works out better for Manning. He may get it now upfront in the form of a bonus, or just spread it along a couple of years. iceshack149 likes this.
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03-09-2012, 03:01 PM	#24
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Originally Posted by Supertek Hope Brees stays with us and yes he should be pissed. Why for gods sake should he have been paid less than Vick and the rest not even in the top ten. Trade him never especially to Dallas. Need to have this cleared up before training camp. Think Payton is going to take a pay cut? I think not. The team screwed him with the tag and I think not only about the money it is the thought of the whole deal that stinks. I can see the tag being used at times but not to your leader that guy you take care of period. After the first sentence, it all became unraveled. The offers Saints gave to Brees would've made him the highest payed player in the league, but it was the structuring of them that Brees' side couldn't agree to. The staff's salaries do not count towards the salary cap, which is the issue here - fitting Brees' salary under the cap as well as all the other players'. The Saints were forced to place the tag on Brees because he turned down the afore mentioned contract offers, he didn't get screwed, but the Saints did because they could no longer place the tag on some other FA.
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03-09-2012, 11:11 PM	#30
gandhi1007 Part Time Pimp Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,967	Originally Posted by papz Redskins acquired the No. 2 overall pick in exchange for three first-round picks, including No. 6 overall this year, and a future second-round selection. FOX Sports' Jay Glazer reports that St. Louis and Washington will exchange first-round picks this year. The Rams will get two more future first-rounders, likely in 2013 and 2014. The Redskins are now positioned to draft Baylor QB Robert Griffin, or Stanford QB Andrew Luck if the Colts pull a fast one at No. 1. More to come. Source: Jay Glazer on Twitter Wow!!! The Skins got hosed like we did for Ricky Williams. Three #1's for RG3? Are they serious???

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Supertek 500th Post Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Harvey La. Posts: 611	Hope Brees stays with us and yes he should be pissed. Why for gods sake should he have been paid less than Vick and the rest not even in the top ten. Trade him never especially to Dallas. Need to have this cleared up before training camp. Think Payton is going to take a pay cut? I think not. The team screwed him with the tag and I think not only about the money it is the thought of the whole deal that stinks. I can see the tag being used at times but not to your leader that guy you take care of period.

03-09-2012, 03:12 PM	#25
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Why trade for draft pics that Goodell is going to take away? Or actually trade someone for draft pics that Goodell can take away so we can maintain our present draft pics?

03-09-2012, 03:24 PM	#26
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Wait until he takes the draft pic(s) and THEN trade for some. That way we shove it right back up his azz. LOL And yes, I'm sure the rules of our punishment won't allow for that, but sure sounds sweet doesn't it?

03-09-2012, 03:37 PM	#27
Supertek 500th Post Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Harvey La. Posts: 611	I agree Structure is everything and they should not have loaded it so much at the end. Not sure how the signing bonus would affect that or if they could do more there. They gave Smith a big signing bonus that does not count against the cap maybe because he was under a long term deal already. Force the other non producers on the team to do the same or let them go to make it work. I personally think it was time for them to take care of him that's all. Without Brees or someone like him we will not win very much anyway with this team.

03-09-2012, 04:04 PM	#28
Supertek 500th Post Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Harvey La. Posts: 611	After looking closely at the deal I think Brees could give in some also. Think others will have to restructure to make it happen like others are saying. I think it will happen I do not need to kick the dead horse anymore.

03-09-2012, 10:43 PM	#29
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,753	Redskins acquired the No. 2 overall pick in exchange for three first-round picks, including No. 6 overall this year, and a future second-round selection. FOX Sports' Jay Glazer reports that St. Louis and Washington will exchange first-round picks this year. The Rams will get two more future first-rounders, likely in 2013 and 2014. The Redskins are now positioned to draft Baylor QB Robert Griffin, or Stanford QB Andrew Luck if the Colts pull a fast one at No. 1. More to come. Source: Jay Glazer on Twitter