Just speculation

papz · 03-08-2012, 06:44 PM

Jeff Duncan of the New Orleans Times-Picayune speculates that exclusive franchise player Drew Brees will skip Saints offseason workouts next month.

The ominous signs for the 2012 season are snowballing in New Orleans. Team leader Brees doesn't want to lose leverage in contract talks by giving in on offseason workouts. The Saints are in danger of losing Pro Bowl LG Carl Nicks, No. 1 receiver Marques Colston, and deep threat Robert Meachem. Without a first-round pick thanks to last year's Mark Ingram trade, the Saints could lose further draft picks as a result of the "bounty" scandal.

Source: Profootballtalk on NBCSports.com

It would be a massive fail on all parties involved if a deal isn't reached soon... much less all the way into next month. Remember, just speculation on his part. I can't see this coming into fruition.

saintfan · 03-08-2012, 06:45 PM

I love you Drew, but have a nice summer, and fall, and enjoy watching the games from your couch.

- Saintfan, New Orleans Saints Virtual GM

Halo · 03-08-2012, 06:51 PM

Yeah this is a bummer.

AsylumGuido · 03-08-2012, 07:42 PM

Originally Posted by Halo

Yeah this is a bummer.

Once again, I am not worried. It may be my maintenance medication and my liquid medication, but I refuse to let things I can't control bother me.

What bothers me the most is that others that I have come to know around here over the years can't relax and trust, as well.

I have no doubt, come September, that our Saints will be poised to make another run at the Super Bowl. I don't give a flying rat's Kahooty what the final composition of our roster is at the time as long as Sean Payton has got the ball rolling (suspension expected) and Drew Brees is under center.

The Beast that is the Saints will be awakened.

Danno · 03-08-2012, 07:44 PM

Drew will cave, but we'll word it so it looks like we compromised.

AsylumGuido · 03-08-2012, 07:52 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Drew will cave, but we'll word it so it looks like we compromised.

No, Condon (not Brees alone) will not cave. There will be a meeting of the minds in the middle. But, that was the plan all along as he steered the tag away from Nicks.

I can see a deal going from $19 million year one, $24.5 year two, and $22.5 year three, with the remainder frontloaded into year four.

That would handle this year's cap issue and still keep in the range needed to make a deal.

FinSaint · 03-08-2012, 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I can see a deal going from $19 million year one, $24.5 year two, and $22.5 year three, with the remainder frontloaded into year four.

That would handle this year's cap issue and still keep in the range needed to make a deal.

Those would be very acceptable numbers, even though it would be even better if they could load more of that money on the 3rd year and take some off the 2nd.

That would give them some room to sign Graham to a new multi-year contract next off-season, while keeping the 1st year of that contract moderately low in regards to the cap.

alexonfyre · 03-08-2012, 08:14 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

No, Condon (not Brees alone) will not cave. There will be a meeting of the minds in the middle. But, that was the plan all along as he steered the tag away from Nicks.

I can see a deal going from $19 million year one, $24.5 year two, and $22.5 year three, with the remainder frontloaded into year four.

That would handle this year's cap issue and still keep in the range needed to make a deal.

Yeah, the more I think about it, as clear as it was to us the Saints were likely to "Sign Drew, tag Nicks, sign Colston" Condon had to know that as well, so he pushed them to the deadline and forced them to use it on Drew (knowing full well that that was who they would choose given that Sophie's choice.)

So he got the tag off of Nicks and will now consider the Saints offers. If that is the case, watch for Drew to sign days (if not hours) before off-season workouts begin.

Supertek · 03-09-2012, 04:36 PM

Think Ya'll got it right I will let you guys do my negotiations from now on. Nothing would be more of a blessing than to see us come home with another S.B. after all the bad PR this offseason.

RaginCajun83 · 03-09-2012, 04:58 PM

Loomis tagged Drew out of fear of Goddell taking it away from them and so Drew wouldn't hit the open market and get nothing in return, let's get a deal done soon

03-08-2012, 06:44 PM	#1
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,753	Just speculation Jeff Duncan of the New Orleans Times-Picayune speculates that exclusive franchise player Drew Brees will skip Saints offseason workouts next month. The ominous signs for the 2012 season are snowballing in New Orleans. Team leader Brees doesn't want to lose leverage in contract talks by giving in on offseason workouts. The Saints are in danger of losing Pro Bowl LG Carl Nicks, No. 1 receiver Marques Colston, and deep threat Robert Meachem. Without a first-round pick thanks to last year's Mark Ingram trade, the Saints could lose further draft picks as a result of the "bounty" scandal. Source: Profootballtalk on NBCSports.com It would be a massive fail on all parties involved if a deal isn't reached soon... much less all the way into next month. Remember, just speculation on his part. I can't see this coming into fruition.
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03-08-2012, 07:42 PM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Originally Posted by Halo Yeah this is a bummer. Once again, I am not worried. It may be my maintenance medication and my liquid medication, but I refuse to let things I can't control bother me. What bothers me the most is that others that I have come to know around here over the years can't relax and trust, as well. I have no doubt, come September, that our Saints will be poised to make another run at the Super Bowl. I don't give a flying rat's Kahooty what the final composition of our roster is at the time as long as Sean Payton has got the ball rolling (suspension expected) and Drew Brees is under center. The Beast that is the Saints will be awakened.

03-08-2012, 07:52 PM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Originally Posted by Danno Drew will cave, but we'll word it so it looks like we compromised. No, Condon (not Brees alone) will not cave. There will be a meeting of the minds in the middle. But, that was the plan all along as he steered the tag away from Nicks. I can see a deal going from $19 million year one, $24.5 year two, and $22.5 year three, with the remainder frontloaded into year four. That would handle this year's cap issue and still keep in the range needed to make a deal.

03-08-2012, 08:05 PM	#7
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I can see a deal going from $19 million year one, $24.5 year two, and $22.5 year three, with the remainder frontloaded into year four. That would handle this year's cap issue and still keep in the range needed to make a deal. Those would be very acceptable numbers, even though it would be even better if they could load more of that money on the 3rd year and take some off the 2nd. That would give them some room to sign Graham to a new multi-year contract next off-season, while keeping the 1st year of that contract moderately low in regards to the cap. SapperSaint likes this.

03-08-2012, 08:14 PM	#8
alexonfyre Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Black Pearl University Posts: 799	Originally Posted by AsylumGuido No, Condon (not Brees alone) will not cave. There will be a meeting of the minds in the middle. But, that was the plan all along as he steered the tag away from Nicks. I can see a deal going from $19 million year one, $24.5 year two, and $22.5 year three, with the remainder frontloaded into year four. That would handle this year's cap issue and still keep in the range needed to make a deal. Yeah, the more I think about it, as clear as it was to us the Saints were likely to "Sign Drew, tag Nicks, sign Colston" Condon had to know that as well, so he pushed them to the deadline and forced them to use it on Drew (knowing full well that that was who they would choose given that Sophie's choice.) So he got the tag off of Nicks and will now consider the Saints offers. If that is the case, watch for Drew to sign days (if not hours) before off-season workouts begin.

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Supertek 500th Post Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Harvey La. Posts: 611	Think Ya'll got it right I will let you guys do my negotiations from now on. Nothing would be more of a blessing than to see us come home with another S.B. after all the bad PR this offseason.

03-09-2012, 04:58 PM	#10
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Loomis tagged Drew out of fear of Goddell taking it away from them and so Drew wouldn't hit the open market and get nothing in return, let's get a deal done soon

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