Where's our motivation!!!!

alexonfyre · 03-20-2012, 06:58 PM

Let's face it, Condon isn't stupid, he knows 23mm would bankrupt the Saints from a cap perspective, he probably wants like 5x20mm with at least 65mm guaranteed. He would probably take a 6 or 7 around 120mm for the same amount guaranteed. Now he is piling up the leverage (Megatron, Peyton, etc.) and the Saints are waiting out the bounty punishment and the rest of free agency (Lofton/Hawthorne) and the draft and then plan on offering Brees everything up to the last dollar that they can spend.

Danno · 03-20-2012, 07:08 PM

Originally Posted by alexonfyre

Let's face it, Condon isn't stupid, he knows 23mm would bankrupt the Saints from a cap perspective, he probably wants like 5x20mm with at least 65mm guaranteed. He would probably take a 6 or 7 around 120mm for the same amount guaranteed. Now he is piling up the leverage (Megatron, Peyton, etc.) and the Saints are waiting out the bounty punishment and the rest of free agency (Lofton/Hawthorne) and the draft and then plan on offering Brees everything up to the last dollar that they can spend.

You're right, Condon isn't stupid. His job is to get as much money as humaly possible for his client.

I'm pissed because so many people assume its Loomis thats the bottleneck instead of Condon.

I've never been more supportive of Mickey Loomis than I am this season, and its mostly due to the Brees contract issue.

I trust Mickey Loomis MUCH MUCH MUCH more than Tom Condon and Drew Brees.

AsylumGuido · 03-20-2012, 07:09 PM

Originally Posted by alexonfyre

Let's face it, Condon isn't stupid, he knows 23mm would bankrupt the Saints from a cap perspective, he probably wants like 5x20mm with at least 65mm guaranteed. He would probably take a 6 or 7 around 120mm for the same amount guaranteed. Now he is piling up the leverage (Megatron, Peyton, etc.) and the Saints are waiting out the bounty punishment and the rest of free agency (Lofton/Hawthorne) and the draft and then plan on offering Brees everything up to the last dollar that they can spend.

This! It's all a game and Brees has got caught in the middle, a position that he is obviously uncomfortable with. Things will work out fine and we will enter OTA's with a major chip on our shoulders because of all of this crap.

Some see the glass as half empty ... I see it as having just chugged the whole damn thing and am watching it being refilled for the next round.

WHO DAT!!!

Danno · 03-20-2012, 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Brees has got caught in the middle, a position that he is obviously uncomfortable with.

I don't think he's uncomfortable with it at all, judging from the way he spearheaded the players attacks on the owners.

He's not some innocent bystander in all of this.

Thats not what you were implying is it?

AsylumGuido · 03-20-2012, 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I don't think he's uncomfortable with it at all, judging from the way he spearheaded the players attacks on the owners.

He's not some innocent bystander in all of this.

Thats what you you were implying is it?

The CBA stuff was right in his wheelhouse, dealing with the good of the whole. These negotiations are personal and I assure you that there is a GREAT deal of difference.

saintfan · 03-20-2012, 08:10 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

This! It's all a game and Brees has got caught in the middle, a position that he is obviously uncomfortable with. Things will work out fine and we will enter OTA's with a major chip on our shoulders because of all of this crap.

Some see the glass as half empty ... I see it as having just chugged the whole damn thing and am watching it being refilled for the next round.

WHO DAT!!!

If he got 'caught up in the middle' it's his own damn fault. We'd already tried to make him the highest paid player in the game before his contract ended - at the beginning of last season. He didn't want that deal. We upped it. He didn't want that one either.

Now, I'm not blaming him for getting as much as he can, but Drew as some 'caught up' victim in this whole thing doesn't wash...even a little...

Ashley · 03-20-2012, 10:20 PM

my god all this crap about his contract makes me want to drink. Someone give me a vodka. Ill go drink it with this guy.

Video: Crazy Mofo Drinks A Bottle Of Absolut Vodka In 15 Seconds!

AsylumGuido · 03-21-2012, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by saintfan

If he got 'caught up in the middle' it's his own damn fault. We'd already tried to make him the highest paid player in the game before his contract ended - at the beginning of last season. He didn't want that deal. We upped it. He didn't want that one either.

Now, I'm not blaming him for getting as much as he can, but Drew as some 'caught up' victim in this whole thing doesn't wash...even a little...

The deal the Saints offered would not have made him the highest paid player in the league. It may have been for the most overall money, but most of that was un-guaranteed money at the end of the contract and everyone knows that the final two years of a five year contract are bogus.

03-20-2012, 06:58 PM	#1
alexonfyre Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Black Pearl University Posts: 799	Let's face it, Condon isn't stupid, he knows 23mm would bankrupt the Saints from a cap perspective, he probably wants like 5x20mm with at least 65mm guaranteed. He would probably take a 6 or 7 around 120mm for the same amount guaranteed. Now he is piling up the leverage (Megatron, Peyton, etc.) and the Saints are waiting out the bounty punishment and the rest of free agency (Lofton/Hawthorne) and the draft and then plan on offering Brees everything up to the last dollar that they can spend. st thomas likes this.

03-20-2012, 07:08 PM	#2
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Originally Posted by alexonfyre Let's face it, Condon isn't stupid, he knows 23mm would bankrupt the Saints from a cap perspective, he probably wants like 5x20mm with at least 65mm guaranteed. He would probably take a 6 or 7 around 120mm for the same amount guaranteed. Now he is piling up the leverage (Megatron, Peyton, etc.) and the Saints are waiting out the bounty punishment and the rest of free agency (Lofton/Hawthorne) and the draft and then plan on offering Brees everything up to the last dollar that they can spend. You're right, Condon isn't stupid. His job is to get as much money as humaly possible for his client. I'm pissed because so many people assume its Loomis thats the bottleneck instead of Condon. I've never been more supportive of Mickey Loomis than I am this season, and its mostly due to the Brees contract issue. I trust Mickey Loomis MUCH MUCH MUCH more than Tom Condon and Drew Brees. RockyMountainSaint and 73Saint like this.

03-20-2012, 07:09 PM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,676	Originally Posted by alexonfyre Let's face it, Condon isn't stupid, he knows 23mm would bankrupt the Saints from a cap perspective, he probably wants like 5x20mm with at least 65mm guaranteed. He would probably take a 6 or 7 around 120mm for the same amount guaranteed. Now he is piling up the leverage (Megatron, Peyton, etc.) and the Saints are waiting out the bounty punishment and the rest of free agency (Lofton/Hawthorne) and the draft and then plan on offering Brees everything up to the last dollar that they can spend. This! It's all a game and Brees has got caught in the middle, a position that he is obviously uncomfortable with. Things will work out fine and we will enter OTA's with a major chip on our shoulders because of all of this crap. Some see the glass as half empty ... I see it as having just chugged the whole damn thing and am watching it being refilled for the next round. WHO DAT!!! Ashley likes this.

03-20-2012, 07:14 PM	#4
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Brees has got caught in the middle, a position that he is obviously uncomfortable with. I don't think he's uncomfortable with it at all, judging from the way he spearheaded the players attacks on the owners. He's not some innocent bystander in all of this. Thats not what you were implying is it? RockyMountainSaint likes this.

03-20-2012, 07:29 PM	#5
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,676	Originally Posted by Danno I don't think he's uncomfortable with it at all, judging from the way he spearheaded the players attacks on the owners. He's not some innocent bystander in all of this. Thats what you you were implying is it? The CBA stuff was right in his wheelhouse, dealing with the good of the whole. These negotiations are personal and I assure you that there is a GREAT deal of difference.

03-20-2012, 08:10 PM	#6
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by AsylumGuido This! It's all a game and Brees has got caught in the middle, a position that he is obviously uncomfortable with. Things will work out fine and we will enter OTA's with a major chip on our shoulders because of all of this crap. Some see the glass as half empty ... I see it as having just chugged the whole damn thing and am watching it being refilled for the next round. WHO DAT!!! If he got 'caught up in the middle' it's his own damn fault. We'd already tried to make him the highest paid player in the game before his contract ended - at the beginning of last season. He didn't want that deal. We upped it. He didn't want that one either. Now, I'm not blaming him for getting as much as he can, but Drew as some 'caught up' victim in this whole thing doesn't wash...even a little... RockyMountainSaint likes this.

03-21-2012, 09:57 AM	#8
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,676	Originally Posted by saintfan If he got 'caught up in the middle' it's his own damn fault. We'd already tried to make him the highest paid player in the game before his contract ended - at the beginning of last season. He didn't want that deal. We upped it. He didn't want that one either. Now, I'm not blaming him for getting as much as he can, but Drew as some 'caught up' victim in this whole thing doesn't wash...even a little... The deal the Saints offered would not have made him the highest paid player in the league. It may have been for the most overall money, but most of that was un-guaranteed money at the end of the contract and everyone knows that the final two years of a five year contract are bogus.

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