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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by jnormand I need someone to tell me that this is going to be ok. It's going to be a difficult season. We haven't really yet seen the real damage: player suspensions... Is Coach P REALLY gone for ...

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Old 03-23-2012, 07:18 AM   #1
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Originally Posted by jnormand View Post
I need someone to tell me that this is going to be ok.
It's going to be a difficult season. We haven't really yet seen the real damage: player suspensions...
Is Coach P REALLY gone for the entire season? What if Benson fires him? Is Coach P going to be able to help with plays prior to games?
Yes, the entire season. Plan on treating it like Mike Vick's suspension. Benson is the owner, so it's his prerogative to do so. Unlikely though as he loves the guy for bringing an elite franchise to the City. After April 1st our coach will have to put a 'Gone Fishin' sign. No help, no communication, not in the building, absolutely nothing. It's like he's fired for a year.

My analysis is that the day to day probably isn't going to be that pressing. Carmichael proved last year that he is both a capable OC and play caller. Brees knows the offense well enough to both coach it and call plays for it if necessary. Spags is a HC of a team from just last year, and this organization (looking now unfortunately) had the DC functioning as assistant head coach.

The biggest problems I see are the Vitt 6 week suspension week 1 and who makes the crucial calls that fall to the HC. Vitt filled the role last year when Coach was down. He's a former HC (ironically of the Rams just like Spags). He would have been the natural pick for the interim leaving Spags and Carmichael to manage the defense and offense. But come September he's going to be out the building until late October. Someone has to actually be the HC. I fear both OC will be too busy to do it. I'm guessing because of the situation it's going to have to be Spags, but I'm not liking the idea too very much. Too much on his plate.

What about Loomis?
Caught a break. Suspension doesn't start until week 1. He can participate in what's left of the draft, work on contracts, be in training camp, make all the necessary transactions. It would have been much more painful if he were suspended starting April 1, like Coach.

I'm just sick. Is Brees going to sign long term?
It'll get done. Brees (his agent?) wants him to be the highest paid player in the NFL. I think we all agree that he deserves it. Manning just got 5 years $96 million and the guy did not play a single down last year. Brees played every meaningful down for the team and had arguably the best season as a QB in the history of the game. He's asking $23 million. Considering the circumstances, he's probably worth it.

But it's tough sledding. The Saints are hovering near the cap. So the team cannot do what the Broncos did and write a salary check for $20+ million for this year.

It's complicated, and it's going to take some structuring to make it work for both sides. Sooner rather than later is better because until Brees signs something, he cannot be in the building. And considering the circumstances, the team needs him in the building ASAP.

Are we going to be ok this year?! What the hell?! I'm freaking out! AAAGGGHHH!!!
Honestly, treading water is probably about right. The player suspension damage will reveal how bad it will really be. Ten 8 game suspensions of starters on defense means that the team is defensively starting from scratch. Hopefully those suspensions will be for players that are no long with the team (Porter? Fujita?). But imagine the impact if the entire starting secondary is suspended. Or all the linebackers. Pretty much anyone who has been on the team in the last three years is a potential target. And with the loss of the draft picks, there's not going to be an opportunity to fill those slots with superior talent.

The only silver lining is that I'm sure the organization and its fanbase are going to spend a season being mad as hell. No matter the circumstances, with our offense (which will be untouched) and a city sized chip, you best believe that the Saints will be out to put 50-burgers up on every opponent every week. And it'll be justified as we have no head coach and no defense. So no one should complain.

Just my thoughts.

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Old 03-23-2012, 07:24 AM   #2
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You could all learn something from us Brits in dealing with this.
Keep everything private from the haters,keep your upper lip stiff and don't panic.
We will get through this and even if we have a bad season we will have a nice draft pick next year and still have the core of a title winning team,Payton back and fired up to take us too the top.
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Old 03-23-2012, 07:28 AM   #3
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People in NO have been so starved for success that they are willing to glorify a guy who does not want to live in the city and thinks he is above everybody else...and if you think his best bud Drew didn't know about all this...and probably a big contributor to the pots...then I think you are a pretty naive person.
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Old 03-23-2012, 08:42 AM   #4
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If you look closely it is not that bad....

Our offence has the capability as it stands now to embarress every single to we see & includeing the playoffs-Superbowl. OUr Defence could turn this entire media blitz into a positive as us against the world is a great tool for getting teams to smash hard. Spag can play the card of hit even harder on every single down. Take every single blitz down as if the quarterback will not play another down w/ legal hit as this is the way the game is played, fans knowit/want it..as in big hits & lots of em ..We don't need this years 2nd or nexts years 2nd. It won't be hard to improve in overall D compared to last year,,...I would wager Brees will go for the US agaist the world mentality & Fu..every one else..Hit harder & harder then ever before should be his message.....NO is hardly the NFL uppers favorite team & never has been, so F.. Mr G..& lets play ball. NO playin in the SD for the SB is still a very real possiblilty. I have been a fan way prior to the last good NO team & this is the best one by far as they stand today. Nothing to worry about & nothing to be ashamed of. If anyone thinks that every single D in the NFL doesn't want the opponents starting QB sittin on bench , locker rm or hospital because of the big hit is foolish.
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Old 03-23-2012, 08:51 AM   #5
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there is no dought the payton has the arrogance of a honey badger. and it carries to his players which in turn brought us home a lombardi. he coachs it and it brings an attitude of winning in a city the never tasted it. he will be missed. but we need brees in this picture now. not two weeks from now. we will not miss a beat, hang in there .
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Old 03-23-2012, 09:03 AM   #6
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I feel the same way Jnorm..I live in the middle of Seahawk country and I have to hear about them beating us in the playoffs, and now this..all day...It sucks.
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Old 03-23-2012, 01:47 PM   #7
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I feel the same way Jnorm..I live in the middle of Seahawk country and I have to hear about them beating us in the playoffs, and now this..all day...It sucks.
Just ask the seachickens to show you their Lombardi trophy!
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Old 03-23-2012, 10:59 AM   #8
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Agree we need to be very stoic as fans and see what kind of men we have on the Saints team I for one think they are going to step up
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Old 03-23-2012, 11:20 AM   #9
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While this situation is very unfortunate, this too, shall pass.
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