Saints players that could be suspended;impact on the season

WhoDat!656 · 03-25-2012, 10:44 PM

With the dramatic and what some are calling harsh suspensions for the New Orleans Saints coaching staff, the worst may be yet to come. Suspensions and possible fines that are coming for players could also hamper the season for the team.

One name that keeps coming up over and over is linebacker Jonathan Vilma. Vilma has been the one player that is clearly named in the investigation and will likely face a lengthy suspension from the NFL.

While some analysts have Vilma as being suspended for up to six games, it wouldn’t be a huge shocker if NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell decided to extend the suspension to eight games or even the whole year.

If that sounds harsh, look at the penalties that were just handed down to head coach Sean Payton, general manager Mickey Loomis, linebacker coach Joe Vitt, and former defensive coordinator Gregg Williams.

Vilma isn’t alone though in what would be a range of suspensions that could severely decimate the defensive unit of the Saints and also the impact it could have on the season.

New Orleans Saints players that could be suspended; impact on season

dizzle88 · 03-25-2012, 11:59 PM

So every player on the defense then.....

WhoDat!656 · 03-26-2012, 12:28 AM

Unless Goodell has a list of how much each player was paid and for what, it will be extremely difficult for him to punish players like he did coaches & the GM.

joker-saint · 03-26-2012, 01:11 AM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

New Orleans Saints players that could be suspended; impact on season

How much cap space would that free up?

joker-saint · 03-26-2012, 01:31 AM

Originally Posted by joker-saint

How much cap space would that free up?

Here is a list of the ones I could find, but I am not sure of the credibility of the source. New-Orleans-Saints Salaries | New-Orleans-Saints Player Salaries | 2012 New-Orleans-Saints Salary

Jonathan Vilma 5,400,000
Scott Shanle 1,750,000
Martez Wilson 509,000
Will Herring 1,300,000
Will Smith 825,000
Sedrick Ellis 5,816,000
Junior Galette 490,000
Cameron Jordan 726,427
Tom Johnson 465,000
Malcolm Jenkins 1,092,000
Jabari Greer 5,400,000
Roman Harper 4,500,000
Patrick Robinson 527,500
Isa Abdul-Quddus 465,000

Total cap space = $29,265,927

Thats an awful lot of dough to spend elsewhere.

Danno · 03-26-2012, 08:54 AM

Originally Posted by joker-saint

Here is a list of the ones I could find, but I am not sure of the credibility of the source. New-Orleans-Saints Salaries | New-Orleans-Saints Player Salaries | 2012 New-Orleans-Saints Salary

Jonathan Vilma 5,400,000
Scott Shanle 1,750,000
Martez Wilson 509,000
Will Herring 1,300,000
Will Smith 825,000
Sedrick Ellis 5,816,000
Junior Galette 490,000
Cameron Jordan 726,427
Tom Johnson 465,000
Malcolm Jenkins 1,092,000
Jabari Greer 5,400,000
Roman Harper 4,500,000
Patrick Robinson 527,500
Isa Abdul-Quddus 465,000

Total cap space = $29,265,927

Thats an awful lot of dough to spend elsewhere.

Thats the 2012 cap hit if they make the team.

If we cut them, all guaranteed money and signing bonus accellerates to this year...

Harpers cap hit is 4.5 million if he makes the team.
If we cut him, his cap hit is near 17 million.

I'm sure there are several others on that list that would cost more to cut than to keep.

burningmetal · 03-27-2012, 12:23 AM

Originally Posted by joker-saint

Here is a list of the ones I could find, but I am not sure of the credibility of the source. New-Orleans-Saints Salaries | New-Orleans-Saints Player Salaries | 2012 New-Orleans-Saints Salary

Jonathan Vilma 5,400,000
Scott Shanle 1,750,000
Martez Wilson 509,000
Will Herring 1,300,000
Will Smith 825,000
Sedrick Ellis 5,816,000
Junior Galette 490,000
Cameron Jordan 726,427
Tom Johnson 465,000
Malcolm Jenkins 1,092,000
Jabari Greer 5,400,000
Roman Harper 4,500,000
Patrick Robinson 527,500
Isa Abdul-Quddus 465,000

Total cap space = $29,265,927

Thats an awful lot of dough to spend elsewhere.

That would only free up cap space if they released all those players. If I am not mistaken, while suspended players might not be getting paid, their would be salary still counts towards the cap.

Also, Jonathan Vilma and maybe Roman Harper are the only players on the team I can see getting a significant suspension. So even if they didn't count toward the cap while suspended, it would only save us money on the games they actually miss. So that number you added up would go way down.

Interesting to think about, though.

|Mitch| · 03-27-2012, 12:27 AM

Actually releasing all these players and we still have to pay them their guaranteed money. So realeasing Harper would cost us something like 17 million

joker-saint · 03-26-2012, 02:57 AM

Maybe we can get these players:

Terrence Newman
Ladarius Webb

Jankman8 · 03-26-2012, 04:58 AM

Originally Posted by joker-saint

Maybe we can get these players:

Terrence Newman
Ladarius Webb

They both suck!

03-25-2012, 10:44 PM	#1
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03-26-2012, 12:28 AM	#3
WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,086	Unless Goodell has a list of how much each player was paid and for what, it will be extremely difficult for him to punish players like he did coaches & the GM. TheOak likes this.

03-26-2012, 01:11 AM	#4
joker-saint 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 382 Blog Entries: 12	Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 New Orleans Saints players that could be suspended; impact on season How much cap space would that free up?

03-26-2012, 01:31 AM	#5
joker-saint 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 382 Blog Entries: 12	Originally Posted by joker-saint How much cap space would that free up? Here is a list of the ones I could find, but I am not sure of the credibility of the source. New-Orleans-Saints Salaries \| New-Orleans-Saints Player Salaries \| 2012 New-Orleans-Saints Salary Jonathan Vilma 5,400,000 Scott Shanle 1,750,000 Martez Wilson 509,000 Will Herring 1,300,000 Will Smith 825,000 Sedrick Ellis 5,816,000 Junior Galette 490,000 Cameron Jordan 726,427 Tom Johnson 465,000 Malcolm Jenkins 1,092,000 Jabari Greer 5,400,000 Roman Harper 4,500,000 Patrick Robinson 527,500 Isa Abdul-Quddus 465,000 Total cap space = $29,265,927 Thats an awful lot of dough to spend elsewhere.

03-26-2012, 08:54 AM	#6
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,750	Originally Posted by joker-saint Here is a list of the ones I could find, but I am not sure of the credibility of the source. New-Orleans-Saints Salaries \| New-Orleans-Saints Player Salaries \| 2012 New-Orleans-Saints Salary Jonathan Vilma 5,400,000 Scott Shanle 1,750,000 Martez Wilson 509,000 Will Herring 1,300,000 Will Smith 825,000 Sedrick Ellis 5,816,000 Junior Galette 490,000 Cameron Jordan 726,427 Tom Johnson 465,000 Malcolm Jenkins 1,092,000 Jabari Greer 5,400,000 Roman Harper 4,500,000 Patrick Robinson 527,500 Isa Abdul-Quddus 465,000 Total cap space = $29,265,927 Thats an awful lot of dough to spend elsewhere. Thats the 2012 cap hit if they make the team. If we cut them, all guaranteed money and signing bonus accellerates to this year... Harpers cap hit is 4.5 million if he makes the team. If we cut him, his cap hit is near 17 million. I'm sure there are several others on that list that would cost more to cut than to keep.

03-25-2012, 11:59 PM	#2
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,521	So every player on the defense then.....

03-27-2012, 12:23 AM	#7
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by joker-saint Here is a list of the ones I could find, but I am not sure of the credibility of the source. New-Orleans-Saints Salaries \| New-Orleans-Saints Player Salaries \| 2012 New-Orleans-Saints Salary Jonathan Vilma 5,400,000 Scott Shanle 1,750,000 Martez Wilson 509,000 Will Herring 1,300,000 Will Smith 825,000 Sedrick Ellis 5,816,000 Junior Galette 490,000 Cameron Jordan 726,427 Tom Johnson 465,000 Malcolm Jenkins 1,092,000 Jabari Greer 5,400,000 Roman Harper 4,500,000 Patrick Robinson 527,500 Isa Abdul-Quddus 465,000 Total cap space = $29,265,927 Thats an awful lot of dough to spend elsewhere. That would only free up cap space if they released all those players. If I am not mistaken, while suspended players might not be getting paid, their would be salary still counts towards the cap. Also, Jonathan Vilma and maybe Roman Harper are the only players on the team I can see getting a significant suspension. So even if they didn't count toward the cap while suspended, it would only save us money on the games they actually miss. So that number you added up would go way down. Interesting to think about, though.

03-27-2012, 12:27 AM	#8
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Actually releasing all these players and we still have to pay them their guaranteed money. So realeasing Harper would cost us something like 17 million

03-26-2012, 02:57 AM	#9
joker-saint 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 382 Blog Entries: 12	Maybe we can get these players: Terrence Newman Ladarius Webb

03-26-2012, 04:58 AM	#10
Jankman8 Site Donor Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Austria, Europe Posts: 374	Originally Posted by joker-saint Maybe we can get these players: Terrence Newman Ladarius Webb They both suck!

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