Metarie lawmaker trying to help New Orleans Saints and the fans

jeanpierre · 03-27-2012, 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

A local representative from Metarie is at the State Capital in Baton Rouge trying to pass a resolution that would get the NFL to reconsider the suspensions recently handed out to the New Orleans Saints.

Representative Cameron Henry is attempting to pass House Resolution 50 with the Senate in order to get the NFL or more specifially Roger Goodell, to possibly change the penalties handed out just recently.

The resolution drafted by the local lawmaker contains some of the following points according to HomuaToday.com:
“The New Orleans Saints have produced countless exciting and magical moments.”

“The taxpayers of Louisiana have invested millions of dollars into the success of the Saints organization by supporting stadium improvements, practice facilities, and other incentives.”

“The sanctions faced by the team will likely have a negative economic impact across the Crescent City and the state as a whole.”

Payton is the “first coach ever suspended by the NFL for any reason.”

Metarie lawmaker trying to help New Orleans Saints and the fans

I don't have a problem with an elected official stating his displeasure...

I DO have a problem with an elected official who's more concerned with something like this Bountygate issue instead of working on the government to keep it smaller and to spend no more than its reasonable revenues...

Beastmode · 03-27-2012, 02:22 PM

I wasn't aware of the SB being in a team city. I'm also not a tax expert but from everything I've read the last couple of decades the impact isn't as large as most believe. Rep Cameron Henry needs to find something more constructive to do with his service than fighting this lost battle. How about fighting for more tax revenue from oil and gas that the Feds steal from us or going after BP in his backyard and their eagerness to tie things up in court for 10 years.

TheOak · 03-27-2012, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

"Every jersey, bumper sticker, t-shirt, etc sold in stores like Academy etc generates tax dollars for that city/state."

Yes, exactly my point..for that city, meanwhile the money to remodel/improve the SD and give the Saints tax breaks comes from the State. The Saints do have a positive impact financially, but it's been discussed on here before that it's about the same as couple big box stores as far as tax revenue is concerned. Also consider the big events like the Sugar Bowl and SB are events granted off of New Orleans rich culture and unique atmosphere. Even without the Saints those events still happen.

Look, I love the Saints but my point is a politican is using this situation for his own gain. He knows there is nothing that can be done except get his name in the paper and the next ballot people will think, hey he was fighting for the Saints. Yeah right.

Ikea does not fill motels. Nor generate alcohol sales on Burbon Street... I am up for debating the Saints value to New Orleans in comparison to a few big box stores.

Add the charitable donations from the players and coaches... I have yet to see anyone's children running around with ikea jerseys on.

The "total" ROI on the Saints has yet to be mapped from what it sounds like.

Add the post Katrina era and the renewed vigor in the city that you can not put a $ value on and there is tremendous value in the Saints that has yet to be realized.

RockyMountainSaint · 03-27-2012, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

I don't have a problem with an elected official stating his displeasure...

I DO have a problem with an elected official who's more concerned with something like this Bountygate issue instead of working on the government to keep it smaller and to spend no more than its reasonable revenues...

I wish I could use all of my likes for the next year on this post jeanpierre!

alexonfyre · 03-27-2012, 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

I don't have a problem with an elected official stating his displeasure...

I DO have a problem with an elected official who's more concerned with something like this Bountygate issue instead of working on the government to keep it smaller and to spend no more than its reasonable revenues...

While I agree with the sentiment, I think it is misplaced. Just because this issue has more publicity doesn't mean he is working on this instead of the other issues. And if this bountygate penalty hurts the city economically, then New Orleans will come even closer to defaulting (and we are already on the razor's edge,) and could have VERY real consequences for all of us.
I doubt that it will, since it seems that most of the fans are rallying instead of abandoning, but the potential is there, and as a politician I would be worried about it on behalf of my constituency too. Let's please not hang this guy until he does something truly ridiculous....like try to call a hearing in the Senate to investigate the whole issue.

JimmyB1775 · 03-27-2012, 05:39 PM

I didn't even read the responses. I will as soon as I send this post.

This resolution is toothless. Almost all resolutions are toothless. What we need is a bill. A bill preventing Roger Goodell from visiting the great state of Louisiana because we can't guarantee his personal safety while here.

skymike · 03-27-2012, 06:37 PM

Normally, I dont think politicians should bring sports issues into government business, but if you think about it, this does make sense.

If you punish the Saints & affect their ability to compete, you do hurt New Orleans. If you hurt New Orleans, you also hurt Louisiana. (see explanations of tax revenues posted above.)

I know how much money we spend traveling to New Orleans from Houston
during football season, and we're just two people.

As a season ticket holder, this punishment also punishes me. It would make a lot more sense to just fine the guys involved, not punish me, you,
New Orleans, and Louisiana.

Rock on, dude.

Beastmode · 03-27-2012, 07:15 PM

"The sanctions faced by the team will likely have a negative economic impact across the Crescent City and the state as a whole.”

So what happens if the penalties stick (which they will) and the Saints get deep in the playoffs or SB for that matter. The resolution would have had no impact and neither would the penalties. I so hope this happens!

alexonfyre · 03-27-2012, 07:21 PM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

"The sanctions faced by the team will likely have a negative economic impact across the Crescent City and the state as a whole.”

So what happens if the penalties stick (which they will) and the Saints get deep in the playoffs or SB for that matter. The resolution would have had no impact and neither would the penalties. I so hope this happens!

And what happens if there are no more financial crises like 2007? That would be great, but its no excuse not to try to fix the problems.

saintsfan1976 · 03-27-2012, 08:01 PM

Must be election season

03-27-2012, 02:19 PM	#11
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 A local representative from Metarie is at the State Capital in Baton Rouge trying to pass a resolution that would get the NFL to reconsider the suspensions recently handed out to the New Orleans Saints. Representative Cameron Henry is attempting to pass House Resolution 50 with the Senate in order to get the NFL or more specifially Roger Goodell, to possibly change the penalties handed out just recently. The resolution drafted by the local lawmaker contains some of the following points according to HomuaToday.com: “The New Orleans Saints have produced countless exciting and magical moments.” “The taxpayers of Louisiana have invested millions of dollars into the success of the Saints organization by supporting stadium improvements, practice facilities, and other incentives.” “The sanctions faced by the team will likely have a negative economic impact across the Crescent City and the state as a whole.” Payton is the “first coach ever suspended by the NFL for any reason.” Metarie lawmaker trying to help New Orleans Saints and the fans I don't have a problem with an elected official stating his displeasure... I DO have a problem with an elected official who's more concerned with something like this Bountygate issue instead of working on the government to keep it smaller and to spend no more than its reasonable revenues... RockyMountainSaint likes this.

03-27-2012, 02:22 PM	#12
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	I wasn't aware of the SB being in a team city. I'm also not a tax expert but from everything I've read the last couple of decades the impact isn't as large as most believe. Rep Cameron Henry needs to find something more constructive to do with his service than fighting this lost battle. How about fighting for more tax revenue from oil and gas that the Feds steal from us or going after BP in his backyard and their eagerness to tie things up in court for 10 years.
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03-27-2012, 04:40 PM	#13
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Originally Posted by Beastmode "Every jersey, bumper sticker, t-shirt, etc sold in stores like Academy etc generates tax dollars for that city/state." Yes, exactly my point..for that city, meanwhile the money to remodel/improve the SD and give the Saints tax breaks comes from the State. The Saints do have a positive impact financially, but it's been discussed on here before that it's about the same as couple big box stores as far as tax revenue is concerned. Also consider the big events like the Sugar Bowl and SB are events granted off of New Orleans rich culture and unique atmosphere. Even without the Saints those events still happen. Look, I love the Saints but my point is a politican is using this situation for his own gain. He knows there is nothing that can be done except get his name in the paper and the next ballot people will think, hey he was fighting for the Saints. Yeah right. Ikea does not fill motels. Nor generate alcohol sales on Burbon Street... I am up for debating the Saints value to New Orleans in comparison to a few big box stores. Add the charitable donations from the players and coaches... I have yet to see anyone's children running around with ikea jerseys on. The "total" ROI on the Saints has yet to be mapped from what it sounds like. Add the post Katrina era and the renewed vigor in the city that you can not put a $ value on and there is tremendous value in the Saints that has yet to be realized. Halo likes this.
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03-27-2012, 04:45 PM	#14
RockyMountainSaint Mmm That Smell! Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Metairie Terrace Posts: 3,073	Originally Posted by jeanpierre I don't have a problem with an elected official stating his displeasure... I DO have a problem with an elected official who's more concerned with something like this Bountygate issue instead of working on the government to keep it smaller and to spend no more than its reasonable revenues... I wish I could use all of my likes for the next year on this post jeanpierre!

03-27-2012, 05:17 PM	#15
alexonfyre Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Black Pearl University Posts: 799	Originally Posted by jeanpierre I don't have a problem with an elected official stating his displeasure... I DO have a problem with an elected official who's more concerned with something like this Bountygate issue instead of working on the government to keep it smaller and to spend no more than its reasonable revenues... While I agree with the sentiment, I think it is misplaced. Just because this issue has more publicity doesn't mean he is working on this instead of the other issues. And if this bountygate penalty hurts the city economically, then New Orleans will come even closer to defaulting (and we are already on the razor's edge,) and could have VERY real consequences for all of us. I doubt that it will, since it seems that most of the fans are rallying instead of abandoning, but the potential is there, and as a politician I would be worried about it on behalf of my constituency too. Let's please not hang this guy until he does something truly ridiculous....like try to call a hearing in the Senate to investigate the whole issue. Halo likes this.

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03-27-2012, 05:39 PM	#16
JimmyB1775 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: San Diego Posts: 216 Blog Entries: 1	I didn't even read the responses. I will as soon as I send this post. This resolution is toothless. Almost all resolutions are toothless. What we need is a bill. A bill preventing Roger Goodell from visiting the great state of Louisiana because we can't guarantee his personal safety while here. Halo likes this.

03-27-2012, 06:37 PM	#17
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Normally, I dont think politicians should bring sports issues into government business, but if you think about it, this does make sense. If you punish the Saints & affect their ability to compete, you do hurt New Orleans. If you hurt New Orleans, you also hurt Louisiana. (see explanations of tax revenues posted above.) I know how much money we spend traveling to New Orleans from Houston during football season, and we're just two people. As a season ticket holder, this punishment also punishes me. It would make a lot more sense to just fine the guys involved, not punish me, you, New Orleans, and Louisiana. Rock on, dude. Halo likes this.

03-27-2012, 07:15 PM	#18
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	"The sanctions faced by the team will likely have a negative economic impact across the Crescent City and the state as a whole.” So what happens if the penalties stick (which they will) and the Saints get deep in the playoffs or SB for that matter. The resolution would have had no impact and neither would the penalties. I so hope this happens!
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03-27-2012, 07:21 PM	#19
alexonfyre Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Black Pearl University Posts: 799	Originally Posted by Beastmode "The sanctions faced by the team will likely have a negative economic impact across the Crescent City and the state as a whole.” So what happens if the penalties stick (which they will) and the Saints get deep in the playoffs or SB for that matter. The resolution would have had no impact and neither would the penalties. I so hope this happens! And what happens if there are no more financial crises like 2007? That would be great, but its no excuse not to try to fix the problems.

03-27-2012, 08:01 PM	#20
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,846 Blog Entries: 3	Must be election season Halo likes this.

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