NFLPA: League must release Saints information

lynwood · 03-30-2012, 03:26 PM

Be careful what you wish for. Might not want some info to be released.

|Mitch| · 03-30-2012, 03:31 PM

As of yet, they haven't turned over anything that we would consider to be direct evidence of player involvement in a 'pay-to-injure' scheme that we could consider for discipline.

They're looking for a pay to injure program, looks like Goodell is going to have a hard time showing "that" evidence

Looks like the player punishments may not be as harsh as we first thought

saintfan · 03-30-2012, 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by lynwood

Be careful what you wish for. Might not want some info to be released.

Nope. If they did it I want to know it. Honestly I think some unclear lines have been drawn. If I'm wrong then show me I'm wrong is what I'm saying. I can take it.

LivnaLieTimay · 03-30-2012, 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by lynwood

Be careful what you wish for. Might not want some info to be released.

I can't think of any scenario where releasing all the information could make the situation any worse. Worst case scenario; there's hard facts that convince the Player's Union that all that was reported is true, and the media has a day of "no surprise" articles. Whatever; everyone already thinks we're guilty, at least we know the truth and move on.

However; if all they have is one disgruntled ex-Saint throwing around words like "cart off" and "knockout" and saying he heard Vilma one time in the locker room put a bounty on Favre for $10,000, then I think we come out looking a little better. Unless there's video, audio, or emails using phrases like "knockout" or "cart off" I think the Player's Union has a good case to attack Goodell's credibility. It's very hard to suspend or fine players based on what one person said to the commissioner. I also think that the NFL has played their best cards and the rest of their "proof" is all one person's account of everything that happened.

UK_WhoDat · 03-31-2012, 06:10 AM

Originally Posted by lynwood

Be careful what you wish for. Might not want some info to be released.

Oh no!

Bad words and punishments have been dished out. So really it cannot get worse. Spill the beans, all of it. And the we can we can understand the mess and wipe it up if we wish.

Transparency

03-30-2012, 03:26 PM	#1
lynwood 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Hockley, Tx Posts: 1,515	Be careful what you wish for. Might not want some info to be released. Halo and Belair57 like this.

03-30-2012, 03:31 PM	#3
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by lynwood Be careful what you wish for. Might not want some info to be released. Nope. If they did it I want to know it. Honestly I think some unclear lines have been drawn. If I'm wrong then show me I'm wrong is what I'm saying. I can take it.

03-30-2012, 04:43 PM	#4
LivnaLieTimay 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New York Posts: 1,499	Originally Posted by lynwood Be careful what you wish for. Might not want some info to be released. I can't think of any scenario where releasing all the information could make the situation any worse. Worst case scenario; there's hard facts that convince the Player's Union that all that was reported is true, and the media has a day of "no surprise" articles. Whatever; everyone already thinks we're guilty, at least we know the truth and move on. However; if all they have is one disgruntled ex-Saint throwing around words like "cart off" and "knockout" and saying he heard Vilma one time in the locker room put a bounty on Favre for $10,000, then I think we come out looking a little better. Unless there's video, audio, or emails using phrases like "knockout" or "cart off" I think the Player's Union has a good case to attack Goodell's credibility. It's very hard to suspend or fine players based on what one person said to the commissioner. I also think that the NFL has played their best cards and the rest of their "proof" is all one person's account of everything that happened. saintfan likes this.

03-31-2012, 06:10 AM	#5
UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 4,004	Originally Posted by lynwood Be careful what you wish for. Might not want some info to be released. Oh no! Bad words and punishments have been dished out. So really it cannot get worse. Spill the beans, all of it. And the we can we can understand the mess and wipe it up if we wish. Transparency saintfan likes this.

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\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	As of yet, they haven't turned over anything that we would consider to be direct evidence of player involvement in a 'pay-to-injure' scheme that we could consider for discipline. They're looking for a pay to injure program, looks like Goodell is going to have a hard time showing "that" evidence Looks like the player punishments may not be as harsh as we first thought