Robinson: Saints best corner by next season's end?

TheDeuce · 04-01-2012, 12:10 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

That sounds more like Porter than anyone else we had last year.

Greer had his fair share of Sanders-like tackles, as did Jenkins.

I agree that none of our cornerbacks were laying the wood... but I firmly believe that Robinson was the worst tackler on the team. Hopefully he'll get some form-tackling tips this offseason.

Marlboro Man · 04-01-2012, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by TheDeuce

I agree that none of our cornerbacks were laying the wood... but I firmly believe that Robinson was the worst tackler on the team. Hopefully he'll get some form-tackling tips this offseason.

Patrick Robinson is a good CB if you think allowing every pass to be completed to his man. I mean he had what, 3 passes defensed the whole freakin year? The INT's he got were not because of great CB play or making a play on the ball, they were thrown right at him instead of the reciever. Johnny Patrick has shown more talent in the limited PT he's had. But hey, believe what you want.

TheDeuce · 04-01-2012, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by Marlboro Man

Patrick Robinson is a good CB if you think allowing every pass to be completed to his man. I mean he had what, 3 passes defensed the whole freakin year? The INT's he got were not because of great CB play or making a play on the ball, they were thrown right at him instead of the reciever. Johnny Patrick has shown more talent in the limited PT he's had. But hey, believe what you want.

Not sure if this was directed at me or not. So I'll re-state that I think Robinson has the talent to be good, but his inconsistency, especially trying to tackle, holds him back.

Danno · 04-01-2012, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by Marlboro Man

Patrick Robinson is a good CB if you think allowing every pass to be completed to his man.

I'm convinced its not Marlboros your smoking.

Patrick Robinson was the 7th best rated CB in the entire league at opposing QB rating.

Rank Name Team NFL Rating
1 Darrelle Revis NYJ 45.6
2 Asante Samuel PHI 52.4
3 Chris Gamble CAR 53.3
4 Ike Taylor PIT 54.8
5 Lardarius Webb BLT 56.2
6 Richard Sherman SEA 57.3
7 Patrick Robinson NO 59.3
8 Brandon Carr KC 61.7
9 Carlos Rogers SF 61.9
10 Brent Grimes ATL 62.9

http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog...-2011-numbers/

alleycat_126 · 04-01-2012, 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I'm convinced its not Marlboros your smoking.

Patrick Robinson was the 7th best rated CB in the entire league at opposing QB rating.

Rank Name Team NFL Rating
1 Darrelle Revis NYJ 45.6
2 Asante Samuel PHI 52.4
3 Chris Gamble CAR 53.3
4 Ike Taylor PIT 54.8
5 Lardarius Webb BLT 56.2
6 Richard Sherman SEA 57.3
7 Patrick Robinson NO 59.3
8 Brandon Carr KC 61.7
9 Carlos Rogers SF 61.9
10 Brent Grimes ATL 62.9

Cornerbacks: A Glance at the 2011 Numbers | ProFootballFocus.com

Ease back Danno, I like Robinson don't get me wrong ( although to be honest I like Johnny Patrick better if he can stay healthy) Forgive me if I'm not the first to the drink station to get the Robinson "Root Beer" ( kool aid would have done if his last name weren't Robinson). If he becomes that first round steal like you suggest I will probably be more open to it though! BTW do you think they already know Jabari will get injured at somepoint this season and that's why there working out the Falcons corner.

|Mitch| · 04-01-2012, 03:11 PM

Originally Posted by alleycat_126

BTW do you think they already know Jabari will get injured at somepoint this season and that's why there working out the Falcons corner.

I see it as just looking for depth; we lost Porter and most likely Torrence will not be resigned.

Danno · 04-01-2012, 03:25 PM

Originally Posted by alleycat_126

Ease back Danno, I like Robinson don't get me wrong ( although to be honest I like Johnny Patrick better if he can stay healthy) Forgive me if I'm not the first to the drink station to get the Robinson "Root Beer" ( kool aid would have done if his last name weren't Robinson).

If he becomes that first round steal like you suggest I will probably be more open to it though! BTW do you think they already know Jabari will get injured at somepoint this season and that's why there working out the Falcons corner.

Those aren't my stats.

I don't think I ever called him a 1st round steal did I? I'll have to check. Besides, can pick 32 really be considered a 1st round steal?

I don't get the Kool-aid and Robinson connection. What am I missing?

iceshack149 · 04-01-2012, 06:30 PM

I could've sworn I saw a lot of people calling him a bum and wanted him cut in the first half of the season last year.

I like the guy but I can't consider him to be better than Greer just yet. Greer was solid last year and Robinson showed some flashes for sure.
There is a reason that the Saints didn't appear to make an offer to Porter. That leads me to believe that not only was Robinson better than Porter in the Saints eyes, Patrick was as well.

|Mitch| · 04-01-2012, 02:45 PM

Originally Posted by Marlboro Man

Patrick Robinson is a good CB if you think allowing every pass to be completed to his man. I mean he had what, 3 passes defensed the whole freakin year?

47 tackles, 4 interceptions, 15 passes defended; I'd say that's pretty decent numbers considering

04-01-2012, 12:10 PM	#1
TheDeuce 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,928	Originally Posted by Danno That sounds more like Porter than anyone else we had last year. Greer had his fair share of Sanders-like tackles, as did Jenkins. I agree that none of our cornerbacks were laying the wood... but I firmly believe that Robinson was the worst tackler on the team. Hopefully he'll get some form-tackling tips this offseason. Marlboro Man likes this.
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04-01-2012, 12:26 PM	#2
Marlboro Man 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,469	Originally Posted by TheDeuce I agree that none of our cornerbacks were laying the wood... but I firmly believe that Robinson was the worst tackler on the team. Hopefully he'll get some form-tackling tips this offseason. Patrick Robinson is a good CB if you think allowing every pass to be completed to his man. I mean he had what, 3 passes defensed the whole freakin year? The INT's he got were not because of great CB play or making a play on the ball, they were thrown right at him instead of the reciever. Johnny Patrick has shown more talent in the limited PT he's had. But hey, believe what you want.

04-01-2012, 12:31 PM	#3
TheDeuce 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,928	Originally Posted by Marlboro Man Patrick Robinson is a good CB if you think allowing every pass to be completed to his man. I mean he had what, 3 passes defensed the whole freakin year? The INT's he got were not because of great CB play or making a play on the ball, they were thrown right at him instead of the reciever. Johnny Patrick has shown more talent in the limited PT he's had. But hey, believe what you want. Not sure if this was directed at me or not. So I'll re-state that I think Robinson has the talent to be good, but his inconsistency, especially trying to tackle, holds him back.
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04-01-2012, 02:34 PM	#4
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,751	Originally Posted by Marlboro Man Patrick Robinson is a good CB if you think allowing every pass to be completed to his man. I'm convinced its not Marlboros your smoking. Patrick Robinson was the 7th best rated CB in the entire league at opposing QB rating. Rank Name Team NFL Rating 1 Darrelle Revis NYJ 45.6 2 Asante Samuel PHI 52.4 3 Chris Gamble CAR 53.3 4 Ike Taylor PIT 54.8 5 Lardarius Webb BLT 56.2 6 Richard Sherman SEA 57.3 7 Patrick Robinson NO 59.3 8 Brandon Carr KC 61.7 9 Carlos Rogers SF 61.9 10 Brent Grimes ATL 62.9 http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog...-2011-numbers/ papz likes this.

04-01-2012, 03:02 PM	#5
alleycat_126 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Katy, Tx a suburb of Houston Posts: 2,089	Originally Posted by Danno I'm convinced its not Marlboros your smoking. Patrick Robinson was the 7th best rated CB in the entire league at opposing QB rating. Rank Name Team NFL Rating 1 Darrelle Revis NYJ 45.6 2 Asante Samuel PHI 52.4 3 Chris Gamble CAR 53.3 4 Ike Taylor PIT 54.8 5 Lardarius Webb BLT 56.2 6 Richard Sherman SEA 57.3 7 Patrick Robinson NO 59.3 8 Brandon Carr KC 61.7 9 Carlos Rogers SF 61.9 10 Brent Grimes ATL 62.9 Cornerbacks: A Glance at the 2011 Numbers \| ProFootballFocus.com Ease back Danno, I like Robinson don't get me wrong ( although to be honest I like Johnny Patrick better if he can stay healthy) Forgive me if I'm not the first to the drink station to get the Robinson "Root Beer" ( kool aid would have done if his last name weren't Robinson). If he becomes that first round steal like you suggest I will probably be more open to it though! BTW do you think they already know Jabari will get injured at somepoint this season and that's why there working out the Falcons corner.

04-01-2012, 03:11 PM	#6
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Originally Posted by alleycat_126 BTW do you think they already know Jabari will get injured at somepoint this season and that's why there working out the Falcons corner. I see it as just looking for depth; we lost Porter and most likely Torrence will not be resigned.

04-01-2012, 03:25 PM	#7
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,751	Originally Posted by alleycat_126 Ease back Danno, I like Robinson don't get me wrong ( although to be honest I like Johnny Patrick better if he can stay healthy) Forgive me if I'm not the first to the drink station to get the Robinson "Root Beer" ( kool aid would have done if his last name weren't Robinson). If he becomes that first round steal like you suggest I will probably be more open to it though! BTW do you think they already know Jabari will get injured at somepoint this season and that's why there working out the Falcons corner. Those aren't my stats. I don't think I ever called him a 1st round steal did I? I'll have to check. Besides, can pick 32 really be considered a 1st round steal? I don't get the Kool-aid and Robinson connection. What am I missing?

04-01-2012, 06:30 PM	#8
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,368 Blog Entries: 1	I could've sworn I saw a lot of people calling him a bum and wanted him cut in the first half of the season last year. I like the guy but I can't consider him to be better than Greer just yet. Greer was solid last year and Robinson showed some flashes for sure. There is a reason that the Saints didn't appear to make an offer to Porter. That leads me to believe that not only was Robinson better than Porter in the Saints eyes, Patrick was as well.

04-01-2012, 02:45 PM	#9
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Originally Posted by Marlboro Man Patrick Robinson is a good CB if you think allowing every pass to be completed to his man. I mean he had what, 3 passes defensed the whole freakin year? 47 tackles, 4 interceptions, 15 passes defended; I'd say that's pretty decent numbers considering