Robinson: Saints best corner by next season's end?

Marlboro Man · 04-01-2012, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by TheDeuce

I agree that none of our cornerbacks were laying the wood... but I firmly believe that Robinson was the worst tackler on the team. Hopefully he'll get some form-tackling tips this offseason.

Patrick Robinson is a good CB if you think allowing every pass to be completed to his man. I mean he had what, 3 passes defensed the whole freakin year? The INT's he got were not because of great CB play or making a play on the ball, they were thrown right at him instead of the reciever. Johnny Patrick has shown more talent in the limited PT he's had. But hey, believe what you want.

TheDeuce · 04-01-2012, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by Marlboro Man

Patrick Robinson is a good CB if you think allowing every pass to be completed to his man. I mean he had what, 3 passes defensed the whole freakin year? The INT's he got were not because of great CB play or making a play on the ball, they were thrown right at him instead of the reciever. Johnny Patrick has shown more talent in the limited PT he's had. But hey, believe what you want.

Not sure if this was directed at me or not. So I'll re-state that I think Robinson has the talent to be good, but his inconsistency, especially trying to tackle, holds him back.

papz · 04-01-2012, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

That sounds more like Porter than anyone else we had last year.

Greer had his fair share of Sanders-like tackles, as did Jenkins.

I agree.

If one thinks Robinson was a terrible tackler, I'm not sure there would be a term to describe Porter.

Danno · 04-01-2012, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by Marlboro Man

Patrick Robinson is a good CB if you think allowing every pass to be completed to his man.

I'm convinced its not Marlboros your smoking.

Patrick Robinson was the 7th best rated CB in the entire league at opposing QB rating.

Rank Name Team NFL Rating
1 Darrelle Revis NYJ 45.6
2 Asante Samuel PHI 52.4
3 Chris Gamble CAR 53.3
4 Ike Taylor PIT 54.8
5 Lardarius Webb BLT 56.2
6 Richard Sherman SEA 57.3
7 Patrick Robinson NO 59.3
8 Brandon Carr KC 61.7
9 Carlos Rogers SF 61.9
10 Brent Grimes ATL 62.9

http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog...-2011-numbers/

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|Mitch| · 04-01-2012, 02:45 PM

Originally Posted by Marlboro Man

Patrick Robinson is a good CB if you think allowing every pass to be completed to his man. I mean he had what, 3 passes defensed the whole freakin year?

47 tackles, 4 interceptions, 15 passes defended; I'd say that's pretty decent numbers considering

alleycat_126 · 04-01-2012, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

hopefully Flajole will press the fact that it's okay to wrap up... back to basics

With the key word being press, as in PRESS coverage not 15 yards away from the recievers

alleycat_126 · 04-01-2012, 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I'm convinced its not Marlboros your smoking.

Patrick Robinson was the 7th best rated CB in the entire league at opposing QB rating.

Rank Name Team NFL Rating
1 Darrelle Revis NYJ 45.6
2 Asante Samuel PHI 52.4
3 Chris Gamble CAR 53.3
4 Ike Taylor PIT 54.8
5 Lardarius Webb BLT 56.2
6 Richard Sherman SEA 57.3
7 Patrick Robinson NO 59.3
8 Brandon Carr KC 61.7
9 Carlos Rogers SF 61.9
10 Brent Grimes ATL 62.9

Cornerbacks: A Glance at the 2011 Numbers | ProFootballFocus.com

Ease back Danno, I like Robinson don't get me wrong ( although to be honest I like Johnny Patrick better if he can stay healthy) Forgive me if I'm not the first to the drink station to get the Robinson "Root Beer" ( kool aid would have done if his last name weren't Robinson). If he becomes that first round steal like you suggest I will probably be more open to it though! BTW do you think they already know Jabari will get injured at somepoint this season and that's why there working out the Falcons corner.

|Mitch| · 04-01-2012, 03:11 PM

Originally Posted by alleycat_126

BTW do you think they already know Jabari will get injured at somepoint this season and that's why there working out the Falcons corner.

I see it as just looking for depth; we lost Porter and most likely Torrence will not be resigned.

Rugby Saint II · 04-01-2012, 03:23 PM

Greer is our number one for a reason. He covers well usually makes tackles and is always the first there in support. He makes the uniform look good. Patrick and Patrick are worth about the same to me .jmho

04-01-2012, 12:26 PM	#11
Marlboro Man 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,469	Originally Posted by TheDeuce I agree that none of our cornerbacks were laying the wood... but I firmly believe that Robinson was the worst tackler on the team. Hopefully he'll get some form-tackling tips this offseason. Patrick Robinson is a good CB if you think allowing every pass to be completed to his man. I mean he had what, 3 passes defensed the whole freakin year? The INT's he got were not because of great CB play or making a play on the ball, they were thrown right at him instead of the reciever. Johnny Patrick has shown more talent in the limited PT he's had. But hey, believe what you want.

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TheDeuce 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,928	Originally Posted by Marlboro Man Patrick Robinson is a good CB if you think allowing every pass to be completed to his man. I mean he had what, 3 passes defensed the whole freakin year? The INT's he got were not because of great CB play or making a play on the ball, they were thrown right at him instead of the reciever. Johnny Patrick has shown more talent in the limited PT he's had. But hey, believe what you want. Not sure if this was directed at me or not. So I'll re-state that I think Robinson has the talent to be good, but his inconsistency, especially trying to tackle, holds him back.
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04-01-2012, 01:05 PM	#13
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,737	Originally Posted by Danno That sounds more like Porter than anyone else we had last year. Greer had his fair share of Sanders-like tackles, as did Jenkins. I agree. If one thinks Robinson was a terrible tackler, I'm not sure there would be a term to describe Porter.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,713	Originally Posted by Marlboro Man Patrick Robinson is a good CB if you think allowing every pass to be completed to his man. I'm convinced its not Marlboros your smoking. Patrick Robinson was the 7th best rated CB in the entire league at opposing QB rating. Rank Name Team NFL Rating 1 Darrelle Revis NYJ 45.6 2 Asante Samuel PHI 52.4 3 Chris Gamble CAR 53.3 4 Ike Taylor PIT 54.8 5 Lardarius Webb BLT 56.2 6 Richard Sherman SEA 57.3 7 Patrick Robinson NO 59.3 8 Brandon Carr KC 61.7 9 Carlos Rogers SF 61.9 10 Brent Grimes ATL 62.9 http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog...-2011-numbers/ papz likes this.

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\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Originally Posted by Marlboro Man Patrick Robinson is a good CB if you think allowing every pass to be completed to his man. I mean he had what, 3 passes defensed the whole freakin year? 47 tackles, 4 interceptions, 15 passes defended; I'd say that's pretty decent numbers considering

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alleycat_126 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Katy, Tx a suburb of Houston Posts: 2,089	Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| hopefully Flajole will press the fact that it's okay to wrap up... back to basics With the key word being press, as in PRESS coverage not 15 yards away from the recievers

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alleycat_126 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Katy, Tx a suburb of Houston Posts: 2,089	Originally Posted by Danno I'm convinced its not Marlboros your smoking. Patrick Robinson was the 7th best rated CB in the entire league at opposing QB rating. Rank Name Team NFL Rating 1 Darrelle Revis NYJ 45.6 2 Asante Samuel PHI 52.4 3 Chris Gamble CAR 53.3 4 Ike Taylor PIT 54.8 5 Lardarius Webb BLT 56.2 6 Richard Sherman SEA 57.3 7 Patrick Robinson NO 59.3 8 Brandon Carr KC 61.7 9 Carlos Rogers SF 61.9 10 Brent Grimes ATL 62.9 Cornerbacks: A Glance at the 2011 Numbers \| ProFootballFocus.com Ease back Danno, I like Robinson don't get me wrong ( although to be honest I like Johnny Patrick better if he can stay healthy) Forgive me if I'm not the first to the drink station to get the Robinson "Root Beer" ( kool aid would have done if his last name weren't Robinson). If he becomes that first round steal like you suggest I will probably be more open to it though! BTW do you think they already know Jabari will get injured at somepoint this season and that's why there working out the Falcons corner.

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\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Originally Posted by alleycat_126 BTW do you think they already know Jabari will get injured at somepoint this season and that's why there working out the Falcons corner. I see it as just looking for depth; we lost Porter and most likely Torrence will not be resigned.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,043	Greer is our number one for a reason. He covers well usually makes tackles and is always the first there in support. He makes the uniform look good. Patrick and Patrick are worth about the same to me .jmho