Aren't Intentions Measured by Results?

G504 · 04-09-2012, 08:46 PM

I always believed you judge what a person believes by what they actually do, not what they say. Is there any statistical evidence that we injured more players or got flagged for late or illegal hits more often than average? I'm not defending GW, but maybe there's some truth to Hugh Douglas saying everyone in the locker room knew it was just talk and no one actually targeted a head or ACL if there's no evidence we ACTUALLY caused these injuries. Of course, the two most obvious were Warner and Farve, but lets be fair, both hits were legal and both men were VERY old.

By the way, haven't checked in in a couple days, so please merge if we already talked about this.

WhoDat!656 · 04-09-2012, 08:54 PM

The Saints were flagged a lot for roughing the passer, late hits, etc, but that was mainly because of all the blitzing the Saints did.

|Mitch| · 04-09-2012, 08:56 PM

It really doesn't matter what we did, we've been punished and then appeals denied. It's over, we must move on...

Mardigras9 · 04-10-2012, 01:55 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

It really doesn't matter what we did, we've been punished and then appeals denied. It's over, we must move on...

Exactly, a lie is still a lie and they got busted. Take our medicine and move on stronger.

Danno · 04-10-2012, 08:35 AM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

The Saints were flagged a lot for roughing the passer, late hits, etc, but that was mainly because of all the blitzing the Saints did.

I'll doublecheck, but I read we were right about middle of the pack as far as personal fouls and fines go.

UK_WhoDat · 04-12-2012, 06:01 AM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

The Saints were flagged a lot for roughing the passer, late hits, etc, but that was mainly because of all the blitzing the Saints did.

BUT critically the Saints were far from the worst in any of the last 3 years or the sum of the 3 years.

Where to now?

saintsfan1976 · 04-09-2012, 09:01 PM

We won't be the last team to suffer over-extending punishments.

AlaskaSaints · 04-10-2012, 12:28 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

We won't be the last team to suffer over-extending punishments.

I want some company in my misery! LOL

Alaska

SBin2009 · 04-10-2012, 04:20 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

We won't be the last team to suffer over-extending punishments.

Agreed. This is far from over.

SloMotion · 04-10-2012, 06:30 AM

... I think you guys are right, this is just 'tip of the iceburg' with Goodell establishing just what level he can impose punishments on a team. The league has been put on notice and god help repeat-offenders.

04-09-2012, 08:46 PM	#1
G504 100th Post Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Miami Posts: 424	Aren't Intentions Measured by Results? I always believed you judge what a person believes by what they actually do, not what they say. Is there any statistical evidence that we injured more players or got flagged for late or illegal hits more often than average? I'm not defending GW, but maybe there's some truth to Hugh Douglas saying everyone in the locker room knew it was just talk and no one actually targeted a head or ACL if there's no evidence we ACTUALLY caused these injuries. Of course, the two most obvious were Warner and Farve, but lets be fair, both hits were legal and both men were VERY old. By the way, haven't checked in in a couple days, so please merge if we already talked about this.
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04-09-2012, 08:56 PM	#3
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	It really doesn't matter what we did, we've been punished and then appeals denied. It's over, we must move on... CharityMike, SloMotion and NuNu318 like this.

04-10-2012, 01:55 PM	#4
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| It really doesn't matter what we did, we've been punished and then appeals denied. It's over, we must move on... Exactly, a lie is still a lie and they got busted. Take our medicine and move on stronger.

04-10-2012, 08:35 AM	#5
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,756	Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 The Saints were flagged a lot for roughing the passer, late hits, etc, but that was mainly because of all the blitzing the Saints did. I'll doublecheck, but I read we were right about middle of the pack as far as personal fouls and fines go. G504 likes this.

04-12-2012, 06:01 AM	#6
UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 4,001	Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 The Saints were flagged a lot for roughing the passer, late hits, etc, but that was mainly because of all the blitzing the Saints did. BUT critically the Saints were far from the worst in any of the last 3 years or the sum of the 3 years. Where to now?

04-09-2012, 08:54 PM	#2
WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,086	The Saints were flagged a lot for roughing the passer, late hits, etc, but that was mainly because of all the blitzing the Saints did.

04-09-2012, 09:01 PM	#7
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,017 Blog Entries: 3	We won't be the last team to suffer over-extending punishments. G504 and SloMotion like this.

04-10-2012, 12:28 AM	#8
AlaskaSaints 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, AK Posts: 2,484 Blog Entries: 2	Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 We won't be the last team to suffer over-extending punishments. I want some company in my misery! LOL Alaska saintfan, G504 and Rickh like this.

04-10-2012, 04:20 AM	#9
SBin2009 Registered Join Date: May 2010 Location: Slidell Posts: 50	Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 We won't be the last team to suffer over-extending punishments. Agreed. This is far from over.

04-10-2012, 06:30 AM	#10
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	... I think you guys are right, this is just 'tip of the iceburg' with Goodell establishing just what level he can impose punishments on a team. The league has been put on notice and god help repeat-offenders.