FinSaint

Obviously our perceptions differ, I understood that passage you quoted as him recognizing the verdict given by the league that the Saints had an illegal program going on at the time, but I certainly didn't interpret that as him saying that the Saints specifically had bounties on Favre.

Furthermore, that recognition was essential for his statement as a whole, because he makes it clear that he understands that such a program existed, but at the same time he states that the outcome of that game had nothing to do with the existence of such a program.

I just can't read that statement in a way that would support your claim that Allen went out of his way to say that the Saints were wrong, because he mentions the bounty program because it's essential to the overall contextualization and he simply refers to the judgment passed down by the league - he couldn't say publicly that the league is wrong and that the investigation was a joke even if he felt that way. At the end of the day he is an employee of a team, which functions within the greater infrastructure of the league, so it wouldn't really be in his best interest to question the league's ruling on this matter.

As for the the term vicious, it has numerous meanings which bore down to semantics. It can mean like you said an action that has a malicious intent behind it, but it can also mean an action which is characterized by violent or destructive behavior - or simply that the action was severe or intense in nature. And that is how I understand that term in general, but it might be a faulty disposition caused by the fact that English is not my native language.

But I do think that that hit was a violent hit, and that is what I was referring to. And I bet you would see that hit getting a flag probably 8 times out of 10, so I think Allen was correct in stating that the refs should've maybe thrown a flag at that juncture. I'm not saying the rules are correct or that it's easy to interpret them during the game and based on an instance which last maybe 2 seconds in real-life, but that is how the game is called nowadays. I don't think even Allen himself would argue against getting flagged if he was one half of the party committing that hit - he just doesn't seem like that type of a guy based on the numerous games I've seen him play in and he certainly brakes and/or bends the rules himself occasionally.

But I didn't mean to make this into a big deal, and I apologize if I made you feel like I was attacking you, because that was never my intention.

"I'm not bashing people, I'm bashing their opinions because in my opinion their opinion is wrong" - Danno