The same reason that the Bounty thing got twisted from "pay for performance" to "pay to injure" without any real PROOF, except an uncorroborated story about Vilma, that other people who were in the room say never happened that way. It could be the same reason that Darren Sharper said from the very beginning -- it was an employee who got terminated, and has a vendetta against the Saints organization.

Disgruntled employee gets terminated, has a grudge against the Saints, against Payton and Loomis. Then he waits until the bounties thing has Loomis on the ropes, before he drops a dime on him. Why else would this "source" who is supposedly "familiar with game day operations" wait 8 years to bring this up? You would think they would bring it up either right after it happened, or right after the Super Bowl win. But the "source" waited. It almost has to be someone who was in the organization and was terminated.

This smells to me like somebody is trying to take down Mickey Loomis. It hurts him regardless of whether it is factual or not. I would not be at all surprised if the origin of this story was the same exact person who was the origin of the "bounty" story.

Now if Jim Letten comes out and says he finds something there, then I will absolutely be the first one to throw Loomis under the bus and call for him to be burned in effigy. I trust Jim Letten, but I don't trust an unnamed "source" talking to ESPN.

LOL!

Watching the NFL SportsCenter Special right now. Bill Polian, Hugh Douglas, and Marcelus Wiley (I think) are all being pretty supportive. They're basically saying that even if this is true, the information would be essentially worthless. If Loomis heard all the calls, he'd almost have to be some sort of savant to decipher what they mean before the play got off, nevermind communicate them to someone on the coaching staff.

Well the things is, regardless of whether or not he communicated the info (assuming it is true for what I'm saying), it is a violation of NFL rules and a federal law

But that's the point, right? Why would he risk going to the jail, monetary fines, loss of his job, and punishments for his team to gain no competitive advantage? I mean, I guess it could be some weird voyeuristic fetish thing...

Furthermore, if it's so easy to "re-wire" some crap and listen to opposing teams, then Loomis was the first to figure it out?! Lol, this story is such a freaking joke. Nevermind the fact that the NFL has people in place to monitor those frequencies already. My god, how this story has any legs is beyond me because it's absolutely absurd.

It only has legs because ESPN has become the Weekly World News when it comes to sports and they broke this false story, I can not wait for the season to start so they have to talk about football not the BS behind the sences

In '02, '03, '04 we didn't even make the playoffs; apparently Loomis was listening to the wrong people... :doh: :whatever:

Well I'm sure he thought it fine since he wasn't relaying the information per-se. Just a better way to enjoy the game. (Again, for what I am saying we are assuming it is true)

No need to wait for the season, the draft is less than 3 days away

Why we would "re-wire" stuff to let our GM have the access to that info is beyond me anyway. I don't know if anyone else noticed this, but they use wireless mics on the field. So therefore, how in God's name could a wireless system be "re-wired" to run up to the place where Loomis sat?? Absolutely non-sensical.

Loomis should sue ESPN or the "source" for Defamation of Character when all this is over, I would :mrgreen:

They said it was wired to pick up the signal from the Saints communications. Then, when the current GM stepped in, it could be "re-wired," or the channel changed to pick up the opposing coach's communications. Since there were 2 switches (1 offense and 1 defense) it had to be rewired to change the channel

I'm not sure that it would hold up in court.

Not likely because he is a public figure

Even if he did listen to defensive calls, it would be impossible to translate it for Aaron Brooks back then!

I don't think that's the point. Regardless it is against NFL rules, and federal law

I think that was a joke RedWings.

My bad..still new to all of your personalities lol

Any sentence containing "Aaron Brooks" is a joke nowadays...

I am getting tired of the talking heads making up headlines. I hope the Saints organization sues the pants off of whoever is behind this BS. "They' are really trying to do everything possible to keep the Saints out of the super bowl. Everyone go to your window and yell "I'm as mad as hell & I'm not going to take it anymore!"

That's OK RedWings. But for punisment, you mist drink two of these

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and say "Ya'll" ten times. :bng:

I say ya'll anyway..but I'm 19...I can't drink any of those lol

If you were down here you could.

What the Hell is going on. I just go it an I can't believe what I'm reading.

That'll teach ya to log out and try to have a life. What were you thinking? :D

Actually, I can up here too...but not in front of the cops...they frown upon that lol. Plus I'm in Criminal Justice. Any alcohol related offense screws that up

Down here you can drink em, you just can't buy em.

Can't do either up here...well, unless you got a friend, or don't get caught lol.

Btw, how do you put a signature on there? Like yours is the 2nd amendment

This report exhausts me. I know there are denials and whatnot, but if even a whiff of this is true, it is much worse than Bountygate imho. Sigh.

I think it's interesting that NFL.com is the only media source not jumping on this recent scandal. No mention of it anywhere on nfl.com. Seems they might think it's B*&%Shi^ as well.

It has nothing to do with what they "think" of it. NFL.com is run by the league. The league benefits in no way, shape, or form from a scandal like this that suggests the games might be rigged in some way. So they're going to stay away from it as long as possible.

From what I have heard, the NFL had no knowledge until the OTL report yesterday...thus the lack of time to comment.

I was watching Mike and Mike this morning, and they interviewed Bobby Hebert. Bobby called ESPN and the NFL the "Evil Empire". I was LMAO!!!



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Click on "Edit Signature" on left side of your control panel.

What draft? We don't have one this year,lol

True, but the NFL benefits even less by being wrong about the fines and suspensions being applied to the Saints.

At a time where the players union is saying they see no wrong doing by saints players, and want the evidence ( I realize thats their job ), and Breess has been asking the NFL to prove that SP lied about anything for weeks now.
Knowing that SP told GW to stop in 2010, and that he probably talked to SP, and SP told him he didn't lie. Im sure this is Brees''s motivation for being vocal.

The NFL has been really dragging the player suspensions out, and haven't even talked to a single Saints player yet.

In the mean time, audio is released of GW, Vilma's tapes and email are released, loomis is implicated for cheating, etc.. etc.. Its almost like the NFL is digging for what they don't have at the moment.

Goddell could suspend and fine all the saints players anytime he wants, months ago. The NFL does not need the player unions advice, and Im sure they did not like what it was.

I would be surprised if all of these reports,tapes, and evidence, did not have to be approved by the NFL before its release. Its all property of the NFL, and a reporter or whistle blower would find himself having very little work dealing with the NFL if it was not, after. Im just guessing here based on how heavy handed the NFL has been in the past about its telecast and property.

It could be the NFL is exercising the demons of past teams behavior by using the saints, because of millions in lawsuits against them for not taking it serious when they knew it was occurring.
It could be the NFL is using this time to dig as much as they can up on the saints,because they know the evidence they have will not show why SP or loomis where suspended, or show payment to any player for hurting another. Im really not sure what Goodell is thinking to handle it this way.

Seems either he has no clue of the impact in the media of prolonging this, and does not care about our fans, or he knows he can't support player suspensions in court. Or maybe he's just not that smart, because his inaction is the reason the media is still digging.

BREAKING NEWS: Saints Implicated In Starting
 

In an early morning announcement, the Illuminatti Comisar of NFL, rodger goodell announced that an undisclosed informant claims to have information regarding the Saints organization has possession of an alien technology capable of time travel, and used that techonology to go back into history to instigate the Civil War. goodell was said to be furious and contemplating ever harsher punishments for the Saints organization, coaches and players involved. Stay posted for new information as it becomes avaliable

WTF happened to my post????

Goodell called for it to be moved, and no you can't ask why.

The FBI and Louisiana State Police have established a joint task force to investigate allegations that the Saints illegally wiretapped opposing coaching staffs from 2002-04.

"We want to see if there is any validity to the allegations and if it affects any state statutes," were the words of State Police Superintendent Mike Edmonson Tuesday. It's believed both the state and federal statue of limitations in the case have expired, so it remains unlikely GM Mickey Loomis will face any criminal charges.

Source: New Orleans Times-Picayune