Goodell on Saints’ bounties: Evidence is clear, players embraced it

burningmetal · 04-24-2012, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by BGWhoDat

If the evidence is so clear.. why has the NFLPA taken so long reviewing this BS, why has the NFL not submitted evidence to NFLPA, and WHY has 0 EVIDENCE been said? The ONLY mentioned of ANY played was Vilma putting up money.

Where's the rest of the comments?

Goodell is bull****ting and fabricating his "feeling" for evidence.

Indeed. Listening to Goodell is like watching sportscenter. He repeats the same crap over and over again every hour, and it is mostly, if not entirely, Malarkey.

He has said so many times that evidence was clear, yet never shows it... I don't know why I'm still reacting to this. Freaking unbelievable.

CharityMike · 04-24-2012, 07:01 PM

I think the plan is to just wear everyone down and get to the point where we will take whatever he says as gospel just to get this over with. After all, Repetition is the mother of learning!

saintfan · 04-24-2012, 07:45 PM

At some point, somewhere in the past, during Loomie and Sean's tenure in New Orleans, they pissed somebody off...but good. My guess is it was a media favorite (a hand picked NFL "Insider") or somebody at the league office who works closely with the media.

Regardless, whomever that person was got pissed and this whole bountygate spying nonsense has been scripted by that person or those people.

I'm saying this because it's just all too convenient. At first I thought this was about pending player lawsuits against the NFL, and I still believe that issue is part of it, but the more I see "trusted" media outlets piling on, particularly with the latest thing against Loomie, without even the slightest thread of evidence to support the accusations...

Look, there is a front page article on the mother ship's website right now that refers to Loomis as "out of control" and "capable of doing just about anything". This piece says that since he was "reckless enough" to ignore the order to shut down the 'bounty' program (of which I have YET to see any real evidence) that it is no stretch to think this latest 'scandal' is real.

People this is worse than tabloid 'reporting'. This is looking more and more like a real effort to slander and embarrass two people - Sean and Loomie. This particular article slams Loomie...but hard...

My God I hope he can take legal action and if he can, I hope and pray that he does. This is going (or has already gone) beyond sports. This is a personal vendetta that needs to land in a court of law.

|Mitch| · 04-24-2012, 07:55 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

My God I hope he can take legal action and if he can, I hope and pray that he does. This is going (or has already gone) beyond sports. This is a personal vendetta that needs to land in a court of law.

I agree! Defamation of Character or something!

TheOak · 04-25-2012, 07:48 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Can we sue Goodell for being a Douchenozzle?

I would be willing to pay for the filing of the Suit if it includes the word "Douchenozzle"

pherein · 04-25-2012, 08:13 AM

Originally Posted by saintfan

At some point, somewhere in the past, during Loomie and Sean's tenure in New Orleans, they pissed somebody off...but good. My guess is it was a media favorite (a hand picked NFL "Insider") or somebody at the league office who works closely with the media.

Regardless, whomever that person was got pissed and this whole bountygate spying nonsense has been scripted by that person or those people.

I'm saying this because it's just all too convenient. At first I thought this was about pending player lawsuits against the NFL, and I still believe that issue is part of it, but the more I see "trusted" media outlets piling on, particularly with the latest thing against Loomie, without even the slightest thread of evidence to support the accusations...

Look, there is a front page article on the mother ship's website right now that refers to Loomis as "out of control" and "capable of doing just about anything". This piece says that since he was "reckless enough" to ignore the order to shut down the 'bounty' program (of which I have YET to see any real evidence) that it is no stretch to think this latest 'scandal' is real.

People this is worse than tabloid 'reporting'. This is looking more and more like a real effort to slander and embarrass two people - Sean and Loomie. This particular article slams Loomie...but hard...

My God I hope he can take legal action and if he can, I hope and pray that he does. This is going (or has already gone) beyond sports. This is a personal vendetta that needs to land in a court of law.

If I could like this 2x I would

Theres a means to this madness.

xan · 04-25-2012, 08:25 AM

By "embrace," Goodell must mean that coaches' instructions, for whom players are institutionally conditioned to follow without question, were followed without question.

Ah, free will vs. employment. Poverty vs. Paycheck. The moral dilemma never sleeps.

halloween 65 · 04-25-2012, 09:16 AM

Originally Posted by saintfan

At some point, somewhere in the past, during Loomie and Sean's tenure in New Orleans, they pissed somebody off...but good. My guess is it was a media favorite (a hand picked NFL "Insider") or somebody at the league office who works closely with the media.

Regardless, whomever that person was got pissed and this whole bountygate spying nonsense has been scripted by that person or those people.

I'm saying this because it's just all too convenient. At first I thought this was about pending player lawsuits against the NFL, and I still believe that issue is part of it, but the more I see "trusted" media outlets piling on, particularly with the latest thing against Loomie, without even the slightest thread of evidence to support the accusations...

Look, there is a front page article on the mother ship's website right now that refers to Loomis as "out of control" and "capable of doing just about anything". This piece says that since he was "reckless enough" to ignore the order to shut down the 'bounty' program (of which I have YET to see any real evidence) that it is no stretch to think this latest 'scandal' is real.

People this is worse than tabloid 'reporting'. This is looking more and more like a real effort to slander and embarrass two people - Sean and Loomie. This particular article slams Loomie...but hard...

My God I hope he can take legal action and if he can, I hope and pray that he does. This is going (or has already gone) beyond sports. This is a personal vendetta that needs to land in a court of law.

Could be someone is after Benson, Loomis, and Payton. Jerry Jones comes to mind. I love a good conspiracy also..

nevergiveup3 · 04-25-2012, 10:40 AM

Originally Posted by arsaint

And while you're at it, I think fines/suspensions/boycotts/whatever are due for ESPN, NFL Network, NFL Films etc for showing and celebrating violent hits.

Yep... JACKED UP BABY......Just like baseball used the steroids home run era to come out from the strike year, you turned a blind eye to your cash cow networks promoting and exploiting hits that were causing the damage to your players... and you never said a word or moved to stop it you friggin hypocrit.... not till the spector of being put on the witness stand did you become all friggin sanctimonious and "caring"

Just shut up and suspend the entire defense from last year..... Coach Vitt and Drew Brees are going to embarrass your @ss when we win it all again....

Rugby Saint II · 04-25-2012, 11:08 PM

Oh he's gonna' get his. He's gonna get it.......

04-24-2012, 06:05 PM	#11
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by BGWhoDat If the evidence is so clear.. why has the NFLPA taken so long reviewing this BS, why has the NFL not submitted evidence to NFLPA, and WHY has 0 EVIDENCE been said? The ONLY mentioned of ANY played was Vilma putting up money. Where's the rest of the comments? Goodell is bull****ting and fabricating his "feeling" for evidence. Indeed. Listening to Goodell is like watching sportscenter. He repeats the same crap over and over again every hour, and it is mostly, if not entirely, Malarkey. He has said so many times that evidence was clear, yet never shows it... I don't know why I'm still reacting to this. Freaking unbelievable. Halo and BGWhoDat like this.

04-24-2012, 07:45 PM	#13
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	At some point, somewhere in the past, during Loomie and Sean's tenure in New Orleans, they pissed somebody off...but good. My guess is it was a media favorite (a hand picked NFL "Insider") or somebody at the league office who works closely with the media. Regardless, whomever that person was got pissed and this whole bountygate spying nonsense has been scripted by that person or those people. I'm saying this because it's just all too convenient. At first I thought this was about pending player lawsuits against the NFL, and I still believe that issue is part of it, but the more I see "trusted" media outlets piling on, particularly with the latest thing against Loomie, without even the slightest thread of evidence to support the accusations... Look, there is a front page article on the mother ship's website right now that refers to Loomis as "out of control" and "capable of doing just about anything". This piece says that since he was "reckless enough" to ignore the order to shut down the 'bounty' program (of which I have YET to see any real evidence) that it is no stretch to think this latest 'scandal' is real. People this is worse than tabloid 'reporting'. This is looking more and more like a real effort to slander and embarrass two people - Sean and Loomie. This particular article slams Loomie...but hard... My God I hope he can take legal action and if he can, I hope and pray that he does. This is going (or has already gone) beyond sports. This is a personal vendetta that needs to land in a court of law. Danno, Budsdrinker, SmashMouth and 2 others like this.
	C'mon Man...

04-24-2012, 07:55 PM	#14
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Originally Posted by saintfan My God I hope he can take legal action and if he can, I hope and pray that he does. This is going (or has already gone) beyond sports. This is a personal vendetta that needs to land in a court of law. I agree! Defamation of Character or something!

04-25-2012, 07:48 AM	#15
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Originally Posted by SmashMouth Can we sue Goodell for being a Douchenozzle? I would be willing to pay for the filing of the Suit if it includes the word "Douchenozzle" pherein likes this.

04-25-2012, 08:13 AM	#16
pherein failclownHunter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: N.O. and V.A. Posts: 2,260 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by saintfan At some point, somewhere in the past, during Loomie and Sean's tenure in New Orleans, they pissed somebody off...but good. My guess is it was a media favorite (a hand picked NFL "Insider") or somebody at the league office who works closely with the media. Regardless, whomever that person was got pissed and this whole bountygate spying nonsense has been scripted by that person or those people. I'm saying this because it's just all too convenient. At first I thought this was about pending player lawsuits against the NFL, and I still believe that issue is part of it, but the more I see "trusted" media outlets piling on, particularly with the latest thing against Loomie, without even the slightest thread of evidence to support the accusations... Look, there is a front page article on the mother ship's website right now that refers to Loomis as "out of control" and "capable of doing just about anything". This piece says that since he was "reckless enough" to ignore the order to shut down the 'bounty' program (of which I have YET to see any real evidence) that it is no stretch to think this latest 'scandal' is real. People this is worse than tabloid 'reporting'. This is looking more and more like a real effort to slander and embarrass two people - Sean and Loomie. This particular article slams Loomie...but hard... My God I hope he can take legal action and if he can, I hope and pray that he does. This is going (or has already gone) beyond sports. This is a personal vendetta that needs to land in a court of law. If I could like this 2x I would Theres a means to this madness.
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04-24-2012, 07:01 PM	#12
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	I think the plan is to just wear everyone down and get to the point where we will take whatever he says as gospel just to get this over with. After all, Repetition is the mother of learning!

04-25-2012, 08:25 AM	#17
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,369 Blog Entries: 34	By "embrace," Goodell must mean that coaches' instructions, for whom players are institutionally conditioned to follow without question, were followed without question. Ah, free will vs. employment. Poverty vs. Paycheck. The moral dilemma never sleeps. saintfan, pherein and Jankman8 like this.

04-25-2012, 09:16 AM	#18
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Originally Posted by saintfan At some point, somewhere in the past, during Loomie and Sean's tenure in New Orleans, they pissed somebody off...but good. My guess is it was a media favorite (a hand picked NFL "Insider") or somebody at the league office who works closely with the media. Regardless, whomever that person was got pissed and this whole bountygate spying nonsense has been scripted by that person or those people. I'm saying this because it's just all too convenient. At first I thought this was about pending player lawsuits against the NFL, and I still believe that issue is part of it, but the more I see "trusted" media outlets piling on, particularly with the latest thing against Loomie, without even the slightest thread of evidence to support the accusations... Look, there is a front page article on the mother ship's website right now that refers to Loomis as "out of control" and "capable of doing just about anything". This piece says that since he was "reckless enough" to ignore the order to shut down the 'bounty' program (of which I have YET to see any real evidence) that it is no stretch to think this latest 'scandal' is real. People this is worse than tabloid 'reporting'. This is looking more and more like a real effort to slander and embarrass two people - Sean and Loomie. This particular article slams Loomie...but hard... My God I hope he can take legal action and if he can, I hope and pray that he does. This is going (or has already gone) beyond sports. This is a personal vendetta that needs to land in a court of law. Could be someone is after Benson, Loomis, and Payton. Jerry Jones comes to mind. I love a good conspiracy also..

04-25-2012, 10:40 AM	#19
nevergiveup3 100th Post Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 101	Originally Posted by arsaint And while you're at it, I think fines/suspensions/boycotts/whatever are due for ESPN, NFL Network, NFL Films etc for showing and celebrating violent hits. Yep... JACKED UP BABY......Just like baseball used the steroids home run era to come out from the strike year, you turned a blind eye to your cash cow networks promoting and exploiting hits that were causing the damage to your players... and you never said a word or moved to stop it you friggin hypocrit.... not till the spector of being put on the witness stand did you become all friggin sanctimonious and "caring" Just shut up and suspend the entire defense from last year..... Coach Vitt and Drew Brees are going to embarrass your @ss when we win it all again....
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