Falcons sign Asante Samuel

jcp026 · 04-26-2012, 08:40 AM

Originally Posted by RedWings44

There was a guy on the Lions site asking why we went after him last year, and let him go by this year. The rest of us listed a whole bunch of reasons. Don't feel bad (for those who do) that you didn't get him either. He is too old, declining performance last year, too big of a contract for only a few 'good' years.

A few "good years" is all the Falcons need to get to call it a good deal. He only has a three year deal and they only gave up a 7th round pick. Come on, guys.

Danno · 04-26-2012, 08:55 AM

Originally Posted by caddieman

Congrats for not being a Homer, and looking at it from a football standpoint. And to all who said we over reached and paid too much, you need to wake up and smell the coffee! A 7th round pick for a 4 time pro-bowler. If you guys would have made that trade you would be saying it was the trade of the decade! Oh yea, and here you go too!

2011 - 61 targets 4.4 yards per pass (#3 in NFL) 67% success rate (#3 in NFL) 2.0 yac (#2 in NFL)

When I said overpaid I was referring to his contract, not the pick you gave up. But if you look at it objectively, the contract plus the draft pick = overpaid.

You got a good player and your team got better, but you overpaid. But this is the time of year when almost everyone overpays for that missing ingredient or overpays to fill a gaping hole somewhere, so no big deal really.

We overpaid for several players on our team.

Supertek · 04-26-2012, 10:35 AM

You can say that again Danno as far as overpaying on defense. That is why I can see a several people being let go hopefully before the hammer comes down from goodell. Ellis should be one of them. Question is who is left standing and who are we going to replace Harper with. Maybe move Jenkins there but again we dont know if he will be a casuality also. wish we could have made a move at SS but there are just so many needs.

Danno · 04-26-2012, 10:54 AM

Originally Posted by Supertek

You can say that again Danno as far as overpaying on defense. That is why I can see a several people being let go hopefully before the hammer comes down from goodell. Ellis should be one of them. Question is who is left standing and who are we going to replace Harper with. Maybe move Jenkins there but again we dont know if he will be a casuality also. wish we could have made a move at SS but there are just so many needs.

Harper's contract and cap hit are virtually guaranteed for the 2012 season, and probably 2013 as well.

We can not move him.

Ellis, thats a different story. The fact that he hasn't restructured may be a sign that he's a goner if we can get a couple more DT's on board either thru the draft or remaining free-agency.

VillainAgain · 04-26-2012, 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by pherein

Though I am wondering if Samuel's ability to cover was propagated by being a DB in 2 divisions that typically had week to moderate QB play. When at NE, he faced jets,dolphins, and bills. When with philly he faced redskins,cowboys, and giants.

Eli just started to play well, and is an interception machine. So Romo is probably the best he faced division wise on a regular basis.
At 5ft 8" ,NFCS has pretty large receivers averaging 6ft 2", and he's facing Brees,Freeman, and Cam. Should be interesting to see how he handles the change.

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Atlanta got better but Since Brees and Super Bowl Winning Coach Sean Payton came to N.O. The Offense always has been efficient and march the ball up and down the field on a regular basis and on top of that while he was an eagle we still bust that ssa so I dont see what it would stop.

Eli has 2 Super Bowl Championships hes been playing well for years hes always been my back up QB in Fantasy Football lets be real Brees and Cam are the best in divison Qb he'll see Freeman is pretty good but we'll find out what Vincent Jkson does

RedWings44 · 04-26-2012, 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by jcp026

A few "good years" is all the Falcons need to get to call it a good deal. He only has a three year deal and they only gave up a 7th round pick. Come on, guys.

Notice the good was in quotations. It was more indicating sarcasm than an actual quote. Thing is, his performance was declining. Had we gotten him last year (the Lions), he would have fit right in with what our current CB's did. As you guys know from when we played one another, that wasn't much

leilung · 04-27-2012, 06:11 AM

He's been marginal at best in Philly and a cancer due to his selfishness. Falcons just got problems and no better at that position.

Bad for them, great for Drew!

04-26-2012, 08:40 AM	#31
jcp026 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 951	Originally Posted by RedWings44 There was a guy on the Lions site asking why we went after him last year, and let him go by this year. The rest of us listed a whole bunch of reasons. Don't feel bad (for those who do) that you didn't get him either. He is too old, declining performance last year, too big of a contract for only a few 'good' years. A few "good years" is all the Falcons need to get to call it a good deal. He only has a three year deal and they only gave up a 7th round pick. Come on, guys.
jcp026 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 951

04-26-2012, 08:55 AM	#32
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,713	Originally Posted by caddieman Congrats for not being a Homer, and looking at it from a football standpoint. And to all who said we over reached and paid too much, you need to wake up and smell the coffee! A 7th round pick for a 4 time pro-bowler. If you guys would have made that trade you would be saying it was the trade of the decade! Oh yea, and here you go too! 2011 - 61 targets 4.4 yards per pass (#3 in NFL) 67% success rate (#3 in NFL) 2.0 yac (#2 in NFL) When I said overpaid I was referring to his contract, not the pick you gave up. But if you look at it objectively, the contract plus the draft pick = overpaid. You got a good player and your team got better, but you overpaid. But this is the time of year when almost everyone overpays for that missing ingredient or overpays to fill a gaping hole somewhere, so no big deal really. We overpaid for several players on our team. pherein and FinSaint like this.

04-26-2012, 10:54 AM	#34
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,713	Originally Posted by Supertek You can say that again Danno as far as overpaying on defense. That is why I can see a several people being let go hopefully before the hammer comes down from goodell. Ellis should be one of them. Question is who is left standing and who are we going to replace Harper with. Maybe move Jenkins there but again we dont know if he will be a casuality also. wish we could have made a move at SS but there are just so many needs. Harper's contract and cap hit are virtually guaranteed for the 2012 season, and probably 2013 as well. We can not move him. Ellis, thats a different story. The fact that he hasn't restructured may be a sign that he's a goner if we can get a couple more DT's on board either thru the draft or remaining free-agency.

04-26-2012, 11:03 AM	#35
VillainAgain 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 273	Originally Posted by pherein Though I am wondering if Samuel's ability to cover was propagated by being a DB in 2 divisions that typically had week to moderate QB play. When at NE, he faced jets,dolphins, and bills. When with philly he faced redskins,cowboys, and giants. Eli just started to play well, and is an interception machine. So Romo is probably the best he faced division wise on a regular basis. At 5ft 8" ,NFCS has pretty large receivers averaging 6ft 2", and he's facing Brees,Freeman, and Cam. Should be interesting to see how he handles the change. i Atlanta got better but Since Brees and Super Bowl Winning Coach Sean Payton came to N.O. The Offense always has been efficient and march the ball up and down the field on a regular basis and on top of that while he was an eagle we still bust that ssa so I dont see what it would stop. Eli has 2 Super Bowl Championships hes been playing well for years hes always been my back up QB in Fantasy Football lets be real Brees and Cam are the best in divison Qb he'll see Freeman is pretty good but we'll find out what Vincent Jkson does
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04-26-2012, 11:36 AM	#36
RedWings44 Lions Post KING Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Reed City, MI Posts: 36	Originally Posted by jcp026 A few "good years" is all the Falcons need to get to call it a good deal. He only has a three year deal and they only gave up a 7th round pick. Come on, guys. Notice the good was in quotations. It was more indicating sarcasm than an actual quote. Thing is, his performance was declining. Had we gotten him last year (the Lions), he would have fit right in with what our current CB's did. As you guys know from when we played one another, that wasn't much

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04-26-2012, 10:35 AM	#33
Supertek 500th Post Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Harvey La. Posts: 611	You can say that again Danno as far as overpaying on defense. That is why I can see a several people being let go hopefully before the hammer comes down from goodell. Ellis should be one of them. Question is who is left standing and who are we going to replace Harper with. Maybe move Jenkins there but again we dont know if he will be a casuality also. wish we could have made a move at SS but there are just so many needs.

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leilung Booty Bandit Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Wastelands that are NJ Posts: 1,351	He's been marginal at best in Philly and a cancer due to his selfishness. Falcons just got problems and no better at that position. Bad for them, great for Drew!

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