Vilma's past

TheOak · 05-04-2012, 07:17 AM

Originally Posted by SaintsBro

Well with the exception of Scott Fujita, EVERY person punished in this whole bounty thing had a "past" of some kind or other...Suddenly we go down from Goodell's initial "24-27 Saints players extensively participated" to JUST the particular players and coaches who had past issues or had caused past PR problems for the league with lawsuits or off-field issues...if you want to buy into that, without any proof being shown, then it's okay with me, but we were led to believe the bounty scandal was this MASSIVE team-wide thing and now it turns out it's maybe not so MASSIVE and it's almost completely limited to guys the league already had PR or legal headaches from, and probably wants to be rid of...it's all very convenient.

PS Fujita also said that virtually "every team he'd ever been on" had pay-for-performance of some kind, and he had paid out "a lot of money over the years" (which means on teams other than the Saints). So make of that what you will.

Everyone does have a past... I have a past.. you have a past.... If Will Smith has a past history of speeding tickets it will not weigh in much if at all..

Vilma having a past that involves Bounty issues on a previous team, in a previous league is not going to be viewed as coincidental.

pherein · 05-04-2012, 08:03 AM

Originally Posted by x626xBlack

Everyone does have a past... I have a past.. you have a past.... If Will Smith has a past history of speeding tickets it will not weigh in much if at all..

Vilma having a past that involves Bounty issues on a previous team, in a previous league is not going to be viewed as coincidental.

I agree this is important information, good post, but you do understand this will never be allowed in a court room right?

Its hear say, and wasn't illegal. Thats the definition of Alleged.

In fact this happens everywhere in college, and the NFL. If the NFL uses this, then Vilma will start releasing how common this is in the NFL, and the many teams doing it, and that the NFL knew about it. That opens up Goddel and the NFL to legal prosecution by a federal judge, and millions in law suits.

All of the payments you show are not bounties. They are pay for play, and only support his position, because he never payed anyone for a hit where the guy was carted of the field. IF I were the NFL I would not touch this information with a 10ft pole.
It more than likely proves what he is saying, and shows his habits that support his case.

Information has 2 sides, you have to always remember the NFL has a lot more they don't want fans to know than Vilma. Playing this card in court, would get a lot of people fired from the NFL, and maybe even owners facing federal court.

Its actually more likely that Vilma would bring this up in court to show the college and NFL culture, that they are hiding.

05-04-2012, 07:17 AM	#1
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,043	Originally Posted by SaintsBro Well with the exception of Scott Fujita, EVERY person punished in this whole bounty thing had a "past" of some kind or other...Suddenly we go down from Goodell's initial "24-27 Saints players extensively participated" to JUST the particular players and coaches who had past issues or had caused past PR problems for the league with lawsuits or off-field issues...if you want to buy into that, without any proof being shown, then it's okay with me, but we were led to believe the bounty scandal was this MASSIVE team-wide thing and now it turns out it's maybe not so MASSIVE and it's almost completely limited to guys the league already had PR or legal headaches from, and probably wants to be rid of...it's all very convenient. PS Fujita also said that virtually "every team he'd ever been on" had pay-for-performance of some kind, and he had paid out "a lot of money over the years" (which means on teams other than the Saints). So make of that what you will. Everyone does have a past... I have a past.. you have a past.... If Will Smith has a past history of speeding tickets it will not weigh in much if at all.. Vilma having a past that involves Bounty issues on a previous team, in a previous league is not going to be viewed as coincidental.

05-04-2012, 08:03 AM	#2
pherein failclownHunter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: N.O. and V.A. Posts: 2,260 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by x626xBlack Everyone does have a past... I have a past.. you have a past.... If Will Smith has a past history of speeding tickets it will not weigh in much if at all.. Vilma having a past that involves Bounty issues on a previous team, in a previous league is not going to be viewed as coincidental. I agree this is important information, good post, but you do understand this will never be allowed in a court room right? Its hear say, and wasn't illegal. Thats the definition of Alleged. In fact this happens everywhere in college, and the NFL. If the NFL uses this, then Vilma will start releasing how common this is in the NFL, and the many teams doing it, and that the NFL knew about it. That opens up Goddel and the NFL to legal prosecution by a federal judge, and millions in law suits. All of the payments you show are not bounties. They are pay for play, and only support his position, because he never payed anyone for a hit where the guy was carted of the field. IF I were the NFL I would not touch this information with a 10ft pole. It more than likely proves what he is saying, and shows his habits that support his case. Information has 2 sides, you have to always remember the NFL has a lot more they don't want fans to know than Vilma. Playing this card in court, would get a lot of people fired from the NFL, and maybe even owners facing federal court. Its actually more likely that Vilma would bring this up in court to show the college and NFL culture, that they are hiding.
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