Register All Albums FAQ Community Experience
Go Back   New Orleans Saints Forums - blackandgold.com > Main > Saints

Vilma's past

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Look.. I love this cat as much as the next guy but fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me. Where there is smoke twice? This is older news BUT when you read it in today's ...

Like Tree6Likes

Closed Thread
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-04-2012, 05:44 AM   #1
10000 POST CLUB
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Cypress Tx.
Posts: 19,027
Vilma's past

Look.. I love this cat as much as the next guy but fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me.

Where there is smoke twice?

This is older news BUT when you read it in today's light it takes on a different tone doesn't it?

$2,250 in bounties. Shapiro said the bounties were: $1,000 for a hit and personal foul penalty by Vilma on Florida State quarterback Chris Rix during Miami’s 28-27 win on Oct. 12, 2002; $250 for a sack in a 38-33 win over Florida on Sept. 6, 2003; and $1,000 for a hit on Rix in a 16-14 win over Florida State on Jan. 1, 2004.
Allegations: Jonathan Vilma - Investigations - Yahoo! Sports

Remember when Vilma was tied to bounties at Miami? - NFL.com
TheDeuce and BGWhoDat like this.

It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. ~ Henry David Thoreau
TheOak is offline  
Old 05-04-2012, 07:44 AM   #2
Merces Letifer
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 4,161
... maybe you should also post a couple links to information about this Nevin Shapiro, where is he now, why is he there, and why he would claim he gave money away like he did.
Tobias-Reiper is offline  
Old 05-04-2012, 07:58 AM   #3
10000 POST CLUB
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Cypress Tx.
Posts: 19,027
I could care less about Shapiro. If Vilma's appeal goes to trial this WILL be brought up as a character reference.

I suppose its just purely random coincidence. :-/
TheOak is offline  
Old 05-04-2012, 07:59 AM   #4
Good Times
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 87
This is ridiculous football players are different they are mean, arrogant people and this is what they do. Hell watch Friday night lights they celebrated when they hurt boobie Myles it goes on in every level and has for a long Time.
GOULA SAINT is offline  
Old 05-04-2012, 08:06 AM   #5
Site Donor
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG
Posts: 3,650
Blog Entries: 3
Well with the exception of Scott Fujita, EVERY person punished in this whole bounty thing had a "past" of some kind or other...Suddenly we go down from Goodell's initial "24-27 Saints players extensively participated" to JUST the particular players and coaches who had past issues or had caused past PR problems for the league with lawsuits or off-field issues...if you want to buy into that, without any proof being shown, then it's okay with me, but we were led to believe the bounty scandal was this MASSIVE team-wide thing and now it turns out it's maybe not so MASSIVE and it's almost completely limited to guys the league already had PR or legal headaches from, and probably wants to be rid of...it's all very convenient.

PS Fujita also said that virtually "every team he'd ever been on" had pay-for-performance of some kind, and he had paid out "a lot of money over the years" (which means on teams other than the Saints). So make of that what you will.
SaintsBro is offline  
Old 05-04-2012, 08:14 AM   #6
10000 POST CLUB
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Cypress Tx.
Posts: 19,027
Originally Posted by GOULA SAINT View Post
This is ridiculous football players are different they are mean, arrogant people and this is what they do. Hell watch Friday night lights they celebrated when they hurt boobie Myles it goes on in every level and has for a long Time.
I disagree. I do not need to watch a movie to know how football players are on the field. Ive played the game.

Mean? Arrogant? Different?

Brees, mean or arrogant? Garrett Hartley mean, arrogant?

Blanket statements like that are dangerous. You form your opinions from movies?

I suppose Barney is really a purple dinosaur covered in felt.
TheOak is offline  
Old 05-04-2012, 08:17 AM   #7
10000 POST CLUB
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Cypress Tx.
Posts: 19,027
Originally Posted by SaintsBro View Post
Well with the exception of Scott Fujita, EVERY person punished in this whole bounty thing had a "past" of some kind or other...Suddenly we go down from Goodell's initial "24-27 Saints players extensively participated" to JUST the particular players and coaches who had past issues or had caused past PR problems for the league with lawsuits or off-field issues...if you want to buy into that, without any proof being shown, then it's okay with me, but we were led to believe the bounty scandal was this MASSIVE team-wide thing and now it turns out it's maybe not so MASSIVE and it's almost completely limited to guys the league already had PR or legal headaches from, and probably wants to be rid of...it's all very convenient.

PS Fujita also said that virtually "every team he'd ever been on" had pay-for-performance of some kind, and he had paid out "a lot of money over the years" (which means on teams other than the Saints). So make of that what you will.
Everyone does have a past... I have a past.. you have a past.... If Will Smith has a past history of speeding tickets it will not weigh in much if at all..

Vilma having a past that involves Bounty issues on a previous team, in a previous league is not going to be viewed as coincidental.
TheOak is offline  
Old 05-04-2012, 08:29 AM   #8
Merces Letifer
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 4,161
Originally Posted by x626xBlack View Post
I could care less about Shapiro. If Vilma's appeal goes to trial this WILL be brought up as a character reference.

I suppose its just purely random coincidence. :-/
You should care about Nevin Shapiro, because Nevin Shapiro was convicted and is in jail for running a ponzi scheme (which makes him a liar to begin with) which defrauded millions of dlrs from unsuspecting investors. When you are convicted of such a crime, the first thing the Feds go after is your assets, including cash, obviously. Claiming you "gave it all away" is a means to hide cash you have stashed in some remote Caribbean island.
Tobias-Reiper is offline  
Old 05-04-2012, 08:33 AM   #9
500th Post
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: London, England
Posts: 580
Originally Posted by x626xBlack View Post

I suppose Barney is really a purple dinosaur covered in felt.
Ha. That's the stupidest thing I've heard... Everyone knows it's Magenta!
saintfan and sharke like this.
SaintGup is offline  
Old 05-04-2012, 08:38 AM   #10
Site Donor
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG
Posts: 3,650
Blog Entries: 3
Originally Posted by x626xBlack View Post
Everyone does have a past... I have a past.. you have a past.... If Will Smith has a past history of speeding tickets it will not weigh in much if at all..

Vilma having a past that involves Bounty issues on a previous team, in a previous league is not going to be viewed as coincidental.
You really think if Will Smith or Anthony Hargrove has a history of drug abuse and rule violations that were very embarrassing the league, that it's NOT going to weigh into Goodell's thinking at all? You really believe that? If Will Smith has a history of speeding tickets, and he ends up back in court in front of the same judge with a DUI or crashing his car or something more serious, you think the same judge is not going to take those speeding tickets into account? Get real. Of course the past matters, any kind of past, especially one that is embarrassing to the league and to the commissioner. You really think Payton or Vitt's past didn't influence Goodell at all? Look, we all want things to be fair, we believe they should be, but that does not mean that they are fair.
SaintsBro is offline  
Closed Thread


Posting Rules

LinkBacks (?)
LinkBack to this Thread: https://blackandgold.com/saints/43694-vilmas-past.html
Posted By For Type Date Hits
Vilma's past This thread Refback 05-04-2012 06:12 AM 2


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:11 PM.


Copyright 1997 - 2020 - BlackandGold.com
no new posts