Vilma lawsuit puts Goodell on the run

TheOak · 05-23-2012, 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

We can agree to disagree. Time will certainly tell.

Yep! Because in the end... facts do not matter. Who has the better lawyer does.

saintfan · 05-23-2012, 01:21 PM

Originally Posted by x626xBlack

Yep! Because in the end... facts do not matter. Who has the better lawyer does.

Sad, but deadly accurate.

Tobias-Reiper · 05-23-2012, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by x626xBlack

Can someone please reference the statement where the NFL told players.

" you have no chance of concussions playing in the NFL"

You either don't comprehend what you are reading, or you don't want to.
No one ever said there is no chance of getting concussions playing in the NFL.

TheOak · 05-25-2012, 07:15 AM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

You either don't comprehend what you are reading, or you don't want to.
No one ever said there is no chance of getting concussions playing in the NFL.

Au contrair mon frair ~ It was implied that a concussion was nothing to worry about.

" The NFL was telling these players, if not directly then through the actions of coaches, physicians paid for by teams and by the league, and its culture, that, you know, it's a concussion. You'll be fine. Now GET BACK OUT THERE AND PLAY! "

Furthermore there has to be an assumption of at least average intellectual capacity. E.G. If it takes more than a few advil and you have to go to the hospital.... its serious.

The grounded truth.... They all knew, they all knew quite well that they were risking their health and safety each and every time they stepped foot on the field.

They also knew they were not going to make that kind of money ANYWHERE off the field. Greed and want drove them to suit up every Sunday.

Just like with the tires.... If I am concussed and a coach tells me "just get back on the field, you'll be alright"... Im telling him where he can stick it.

Ive had it happen to me on the football field before, in High School, 16 years old. I staggered my self off the field and refused to go back in.

Tobias-Reiper · 05-26-2012, 08:58 AM

Originally Posted by x626xBlack

Au contrair mon frair ~ It was implied that a concussion was nothing to worry about.

" The NFL was telling these players, if not directly then through the actions of coaches, physicians paid for by teams and by the league, and its culture, that, you know, it's a concussion. You'll be fine. Now GET BACK OUT THERE AND PLAY! "

Furthermore there has to be an assumption of at least average intellectual capacity. E.G. If it takes more than a few advil and you have to go to the hospital.... its serious.

The grounded truth.... They all knew, they all knew quite well that they were risking their health and safety each and every time they stepped foot on the field.

They also knew they were not going to make that kind of money ANYWHERE off the field. Greed and want drove them to suit up every Sunday.

Just like with the tires.... If I am concussed and a coach tells me "just get back on the field, you'll be alright"... Im telling him where he can stick it.

Ive had it happen to me on the football field before, in High School, 16 years old. I staggered my self off the field and refused to go back in.

... again, oh boy... ok..

Beastmode · 05-25-2012, 08:05 AM

If the overwhelming studies say one thing and the NFL's experts say something else that could be a big problem. I look at it like this, If I hand you a box of rotten apples and place a handful of good ones on the top who's fault is it if you choose to not sort through them. Did I mislead you if I intentionally put them on top. Of course I did.

TheOak · 05-25-2012, 08:51 AM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

If the overwhelming studies say one thing and the NFL's experts say something else that could be a big problem. I look at it like this, If I hand you a box of rotten apples and place a handful of good ones on the top who's fault is it if you choose to not sort through them. Did I mislead you if I intentionally put them on top. Of course I did.

Exactly.... and if I bought the box with out checking all of them with you standing in front of me, its my problem once I got home.

If you sign a loan document for a vehicle and didn't read the part that stated that the first 48 payments all are front loaded interest payments, and nothing goes to principal, its your fault for not reading the contract.

We are all responsible for a certain modicum of due diligence.

05-23-2012, 01:17 PM	#1
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,043	Originally Posted by saintfan We can agree to disagree. Time will certainly tell. Yep! Because in the end... facts do not matter. Who has the better lawyer does. saintfan likes this.

05-23-2012, 01:21 PM	#2
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by x626xBlack Yep! Because in the end... facts do not matter. Who has the better lawyer does. Sad, but deadly accurate.

05-23-2012, 03:08 PM	#3
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Originally Posted by x626xBlack Can someone please reference the statement where the NFL told players. " you have no chance of concussions playing in the NFL" You either don't comprehend what you are reading, or you don't want to. No one ever said there is no chance of getting concussions playing in the NFL.

05-25-2012, 07:15 AM	#4
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,043	Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper You either don't comprehend what you are reading, or you don't want to. No one ever said there is no chance of getting concussions playing in the NFL. Au contrair mon frair ~ It was implied that a concussion was nothing to worry about. " The NFL was telling these players, if not directly then through the actions of coaches, physicians paid for by teams and by the league, and its culture, that, you know, it's a concussion. You'll be fine. Now GET BACK OUT THERE AND PLAY! " Furthermore there has to be an assumption of at least average intellectual capacity. E.G. If it takes more than a few advil and you have to go to the hospital.... its serious. The grounded truth.... They all knew, they all knew quite well that they were risking their health and safety each and every time they stepped foot on the field. They also knew they were not going to make that kind of money ANYWHERE off the field. Greed and want drove them to suit up every Sunday. Just like with the tires.... If I am concussed and a coach tells me "just get back on the field, you'll be alright"... Im telling him where he can stick it. Ive had it happen to me on the football field before, in High School, 16 years old. I staggered my self off the field and refused to go back in.
	It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. ~ Henry David Thoreau

05-26-2012, 08:58 AM	#5
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Originally Posted by x626xBlack Au contrair mon frair ~ It was implied that a concussion was nothing to worry about. " The NFL was telling these players, if not directly then through the actions of coaches, physicians paid for by teams and by the league, and its culture, that, you know, it's a concussion. You'll be fine. Now GET BACK OUT THERE AND PLAY! " Furthermore there has to be an assumption of at least average intellectual capacity. E.G. If it takes more than a few advil and you have to go to the hospital.... its serious. The grounded truth.... They all knew, they all knew quite well that they were risking their health and safety each and every time they stepped foot on the field. They also knew they were not going to make that kind of money ANYWHERE off the field. Greed and want drove them to suit up every Sunday. Just like with the tires.... If I am concussed and a coach tells me "just get back on the field, you'll be alright"... Im telling him where he can stick it. Ive had it happen to me on the football field before, in High School, 16 years old. I staggered my self off the field and refused to go back in. ... again, oh boy... ok..

05-25-2012, 08:05 AM	#6
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	If the overwhelming studies say one thing and the NFL's experts say something else that could be a big problem. I look at it like this, If I hand you a box of rotten apples and place a handful of good ones on the top who's fault is it if you choose to not sort through them. Did I mislead you if I intentionally put them on top. Of course I did.
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05-25-2012, 08:51 AM	#7
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,043	Originally Posted by Beastmode If the overwhelming studies say one thing and the NFL's experts say something else that could be a big problem. I look at it like this, If I hand you a box of rotten apples and place a handful of good ones on the top who's fault is it if you choose to not sort through them. Did I mislead you if I intentionally put them on top. Of course I did. Exactly.... and if I bought the box with out checking all of them with you standing in front of me, its my problem once I got home. If you sign a loan document for a vehicle and didn't read the part that stated that the first 48 payments all are front loaded interest payments, and nothing goes to principal, its your fault for not reading the contract. We are all responsible for a certain modicum of due diligence.

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