Better NFL offense: Patriots or Saints?

Rugby Saint II · 05-29-2012, 10:34 PM

I'm a little biased. So I'm picking the Saints.

CharityMike · 05-29-2012, 10:38 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Without reading, i'm saying Saints.

RBs - Saints
WRs - Saints
TEs - NE
O Line - Saints
FB - Saints

Not far off IMO.

Rbs- Definitely Saints
Wrs- Wash
Tes- Definitely NE
O Line- Wash

Saints for the obvious reason. We can run the ball better which makes us more dynamic.

pherein · 05-30-2012, 03:34 AM

Well theres
RB's = Yes Saints because its proven. But Patriots have a decent line up.
WRs = WE might be even this year. Seriously Welker, Branch, Lloyd ( we all know Donte’ Stallworth is a bust), gaffney.
TE= Im not going to give Patriots this. Graham catches anything, but Gronk runs better after the catch. I was schooled on Hernz vs Davids so maybe they have us on that. But Graham and Gronk are even in my book. Different skill sets.
OL = pretty even considering we don't know how we will perform.
QB = Brady is better. He was up with Brees in stats last year, less interceptions.

saintsfan1976 · 05-30-2012, 06:26 AM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

The article was based on now, not 2011

So are the rosters. I don't know why it says 2011.

TheOak · 05-30-2012, 08:03 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Prove it

Graham over Gronk any day.

Ashley · 05-30-2012, 08:07 AM

I'm not even going to open it, if you are saying. Based on now??? It would be New England, they have Brady. We have Chase.
No need to look any further than that!

pumpkindriver · 05-30-2012, 08:56 AM

If SP wasn't suspended, and Brees was signed, this would be a no brainer and we'd win easily. That being said, I still think in overall production our offense will continue to hum right along like the well oiled machine it is. That is as long as Brees signs and plays.

HughC · 06-01-2012, 07:25 PM

Originally Posted by x626xBlack

Graham over Gronk any day.

Graham is incredible, but at minimum they're even. Virtually the same number of receptions and yards, but Gronkowski had 7 more TD; he's a very good blocker too.

Saints are better at WR and RB
Patriots get more from the TE position
Both are very good at QB and OL

Overall a slight edge to the Saints, probably because of the versatility and not relying on so few players. Saints scored 2.1 more points per game, had 39 more yards per game, passed for 263 more yards and ran for 363 more yards. Turnovers are about equal (NE 17; NO 19).

Looking ahead New England may (or may not) be able to surpass the Saints offense in 2012, adding Brandon Lloyd, Jabar Gaffney, Daniel Fells as a 3rd TE, etc., but to do so they'll need to get good production from one or both of their 2nd-year running backs.

saintsfan1976 · 06-01-2012, 10:20 PM

Originally Posted by HughC

Graham is incredible, but at minimum they're even. Virtually the same number of receptions and yards, but Gronkowski had 7 more TD; he's a very good blocker too.

Saints are better at WR and RB
Patriots get more from the TE position
Both are very good at QB and OL

Overall a slight edge to the Saints, probably because of the versatility and not relying on so few players. Saints scored 2.1 more points per game, had 39 more yards per game, passed for 263 more yards and ran for 363 more yards. Turnovers are about equal (NE 17; NO 19).

Looking ahead New England may (or may not) be able to surpass the Saints offense in 2012, adding Brandon Lloyd, Jabar Gaffney, Daniel Fells as a 3rd TE, etc., but to do so they'll need to get good production from one or both of their 2nd-year running backs.

Nice first post. Welcome aboard Hugh.

saintsfan1976 · 06-01-2012, 10:21 PM

Originally Posted by x626xBlack

Graham over Gronk any day.

Hernandez over Thomas (or whoever "starts" this year)

05-29-2012, 10:38 PM	#12
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Without reading, i'm saying Saints. RBs - Saints WRs - Saints TEs - NE O Line - Saints FB - Saints Not far off IMO. Rbs- Definitely Saints Wrs- Wash Tes- Definitely NE O Line- Wash Saints for the obvious reason. We can run the ball better which makes us more dynamic.

05-30-2012, 03:34 AM	#13
pherein failclownHunter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: N.O. and V.A. Posts: 2,260 Blog Entries: 3	Well theres RB's = Yes Saints because its proven. But Patriots have a decent line up. WRs = WE might be even this year. Seriously Welker, Branch, Lloyd ( we all know Donte’ Stallworth is a bust), gaffney. TE= Im not going to give Patriots this. Graham catches anything, but Gronk runs better after the catch. I was schooled on Hernz vs Davids so maybe they have us on that. But Graham and Gronk are even in my book. Different skill sets. OL = pretty even considering we don't know how we will perform. QB = Brady is better. He was up with Brees in stats last year, less interceptions.
	Saints proved that pigs could fly in 2009. Now its time for another miracle SuperBowl and go where no pig has gone before.

05-30-2012, 06:26 AM	#14
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,847 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 The article was based on now, not 2011 So are the rosters. I don't know why it says 2011.

05-30-2012, 08:03 AM	#15
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Prove it Graham over Gronk any day.

06-01-2012, 07:25 PM	#18
HughC Rookie Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 2	Originally Posted by x626xBlack Graham over Gronk any day. Graham is incredible, but at minimum they're even. Virtually the same number of receptions and yards, but Gronkowski had 7 more TD; he's a very good blocker too. Saints are better at WR and RB Patriots get more from the TE position Both are very good at QB and OL Overall a slight edge to the Saints, probably because of the versatility and not relying on so few players. Saints scored 2.1 more points per game, had 39 more yards per game, passed for 263 more yards and ran for 363 more yards. Turnovers are about equal (NE 17; NO 19). Looking ahead New England may (or may not) be able to surpass the Saints offense in 2012, adding Brandon Lloyd, Jabar Gaffney, Daniel Fells as a 3rd TE, etc., but to do so they'll need to get good production from one or both of their 2nd-year running backs.
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Ashley Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Colorado Springs Co Posts: 2,760	I'm not even going to open it, if you are saying. Based on now??? It would be New England, they have Brady. We have Chase. No need to look any further than that!

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pumpkindriver 500th Post Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Killeen, Tx. Posts: 932	If SP wasn't suspended, and Brees was signed, this would be a no brainer and we'd win easily. That being said, I still think in overall production our offense will continue to hum right along like the well oiled machine it is. That is as long as Brees signs and plays.

06-01-2012, 10:20 PM	#19
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,847 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by HughC Graham is incredible, but at minimum they're even. Virtually the same number of receptions and yards, but Gronkowski had 7 more TD; he's a very good blocker too. Saints are better at WR and RB Patriots get more from the TE position Both are very good at QB and OL Overall a slight edge to the Saints, probably because of the versatility and not relying on so few players. Saints scored 2.1 more points per game, had 39 more yards per game, passed for 263 more yards and ran for 363 more yards. Turnovers are about equal (NE 17; NO 19). Looking ahead New England may (or may not) be able to surpass the Saints offense in 2012, adding Brandon Lloyd, Jabar Gaffney, Daniel Fells as a 3rd TE, etc., but to do so they'll need to get good production from one or both of their 2nd-year running backs. Nice first post. Welcome aboard Hugh.

06-01-2012, 10:21 PM	#20
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,847 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by x626xBlack Graham over Gronk any day. Hernandez over Thomas (or whoever "starts" this year)

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