Better NFL offense: Patriots or Saints?

FinSaint · 06-02-2012, 06:10 AM

Originally Posted by CharityMike

Now its between the Saints and the Lions for the championship!

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FinSaint · 06-02-2012, 09:41 PM

Saints do have a much better run offense than the Patriots do, or at least they did last season and the future is unknown - #6 vs #20.

A large part of that is and was the superior play of the Saints' O-line, and I do think they are better than their colleagues with the Patriots - in fact, they are the best in the business and there'll be no drop of with Grubbs.

Gronkowski is a much better blocker than Graham is and he is a much more complete TE at present, but given how new Graham is to the game of football - I predict that 10 years from now Graham will have had a far superior career.

Speedy Ron · 06-02-2012, 10:03 PM

better question..who has the worse defense?

pherein · 06-02-2012, 10:26 PM

Originally Posted by Speedy Ron

better question..who has the worse defense?

LOL, not the topic, but so true.

WhoDat!656 · 06-03-2012, 07:18 AM

Originally Posted by Speedy Ron

better question..who has the worse defense?

Without a doubt, the Saints!

Couldn't stop the 40-whiners from scoring with 1:37 left in the game; at least the Patricheats crappy defense got to the Super Bowl.

But if the Saints had gotten to the Super Bowl against the Pats, the only question would have been how badly would the Saints beat New England!

pherein · 06-03-2012, 02:52 AM

I would also encourage anyone to post on the same topic in their forum. Its one of the best moderated forums Ive been in, and they have some really good football knowledge. Just as always, as we say , represent us well. It would be nice to get a friendly stream of dialogue between our 2 sites. Most of what the Patriots hear is from Saintsreport, and thats not a true reflection of how we think. This site is.

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CharityMike · 06-03-2012, 11:39 AM

All I know is, we are getting beat by 25 votes to the Lions??? Slo..you got some splaining to dooo

Danno · 06-03-2012, 07:19 PM

Originally Posted by CharityMike

All I know is, we are getting beat by 25 votes to the Lions??? Slo..you got some splaining to dooo

I know they're looking at 2012, and we'll be without Payton, but my goodness, we beat the Lions 31-17 and 45-28

And BTW, in the playoffs we had 628 yards of offense and knelt down 3 times inside their 5 yard line to end the game.

And our defenses were about the same last year.

How is this even a contest? 628 yards and 6 TD's? In one game?

SloMotion · 06-04-2012, 05:53 AM

Originally Posted by CharityMike

All I know is, we are getting beat by 25 votes to the Lions??? Slo..you got some splaining to dooo

... hehehe ... you heard the man, Detroit stuffed the ballot box to get by Green Bay ... it must be "SloMotion's Army" stuffing the box early in the final vote vs the Saints,

... they must not have gotten the memo that New Orleans' has the better run game and cancels out any debate of Detroit coming out ahead in this poll ... last I checked, you guys were up by a couple hundred votes anyway ... did I call this one? I think somewhere I predicted a Detroit/New Orleans final ... not that I was expecting to win, but expecting to be there is reasonable ... we're in your rearview mirror, it's gonna' be Saints/Lions for the NFC Championship soon enough and what a glorious day that will be,

...

SloMotion · 06-04-2012, 06:16 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

I know they're looking at 2012, and we'll be without Payton, but my goodness, we beat the Lions 31-17 and 45-28
And BTW, in the playoffs we had 628 yards of offense and knelt down 3 times inside their 5 yard line to end the game.
And our defenses were about the same last year.
How is this even a contest? 628 yards and 6 TD's? In one game?

... hey, hey ... don't rub it in,

... but yeah, our defenses are about equal and even the offenses, for the most part ... it's the run game where New Orleans kicks Detroit's ass in a poll like this ... goddang Lions' run game, it's non-existent.

Originally Posted by FinSaint

Well, I'd rather have the actual Super Bowl title than the victory is this meaningless pole.

... had you worried there for a moment, eh?

.

... just a little good-natured fun guys, I'm sure y'all know how it feels to go from 'worst-to-first' ... that's where I'm at on this, just sitting here happy that the Lions are getting some press,

.

06-02-2012, 10:03 PM	#3
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06-02-2012, 10:26 PM	#4
pherein failclownHunter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: N.O. and V.A. Posts: 2,260 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by Speedy Ron better question..who has the worse defense? LOL, not the topic, but so true.

06-03-2012, 07:18 AM	#5
WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,097	Originally Posted by Speedy Ron better question..who has the worse defense? Without a doubt, the Saints! Couldn't stop the 40-whiners from scoring with 1:37 left in the game; at least the Patricheats crappy defense got to the Super Bowl. But if the Saints had gotten to the Super Bowl against the Pats, the only question would have been how badly would the Saints beat New England!

06-03-2012, 11:39 AM	#7
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	All I know is, we are getting beat by 25 votes to the Lions??? Slo..you got some splaining to dooo SloMotion likes this.

06-03-2012, 07:19 PM	#8
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Originally Posted by CharityMike All I know is, we are getting beat by 25 votes to the Lions??? Slo..you got some splaining to dooo I know they're looking at 2012, and we'll be without Payton, but my goodness, we beat the Lions 31-17 and 45-28 And BTW, in the playoffs we had 628 yards of offense and knelt down 3 times inside their 5 yard line to end the game. And our defenses were about the same last year. How is this even a contest? 628 yards and 6 TD's? In one game?

06-02-2012, 09:41 PM	#2
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,964	Saints do have a much better run offense than the Patriots do, or at least they did last season and the future is unknown - #6 vs #20. A large part of that is and was the superior play of the Saints' O-line, and I do think they are better than their colleagues with the Patriots - in fact, they are the best in the business and there'll be no drop of with Grubbs. Gronkowski is a much better blocker than Graham is and he is a much more complete TE at present, but given how new Graham is to the game of football - I predict that 10 years from now Graham will have had a far superior career.
	"I'm not bashing people, I'm bashing their opinions because in my opinion their opinion is wrong" - Danno

06-03-2012, 02:52 AM	#6
pherein failclownHunter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: N.O. and V.A. Posts: 2,260 Blog Entries: 3	I would also encourage anyone to post on the same topic in their forum. Its one of the best moderated forums Ive been in, and they have some really good football knowledge. Just as always, as we say , represent us well. It would be nice to get a friendly stream of dialogue between our 2 sites. Most of what the Patriots hear is from Saintsreport, and thats not a true reflection of how we think. This site is. Better NFL offense: Patriots or Saints? - New England Patriots Forums - PatsFans.com Patriots Fan Messageboard
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06-04-2012, 05:53 AM	#9
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Originally Posted by CharityMike All I know is, we are getting beat by 25 votes to the Lions??? Slo..you got some splaining to dooo ... hehehe ... you heard the man, Detroit stuffed the ballot box to get by Green Bay ... it must be "SloMotion's Army" stuffing the box early in the final vote vs the Saints, ... they must not have gotten the memo that New Orleans' has the better run game and cancels out any debate of Detroit coming out ahead in this poll ... last I checked, you guys were up by a couple hundred votes anyway ... did I call this one? I think somewhere I predicted a Detroit/New Orleans final ... not that I was expecting to win, but expecting to be there is reasonable ... we're in your rearview mirror, it's gonna' be Saints/Lions for the NFC Championship soon enough and what a glorious day that will be, ...

06-04-2012, 06:16 AM	#10
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Originally Posted by Danno I know they're looking at 2012, and we'll be without Payton, but my goodness, we beat the Lions 31-17 and 45-28 And BTW, in the playoffs we had 628 yards of offense and knelt down 3 times inside their 5 yard line to end the game. And our defenses were about the same last year. How is this even a contest? 628 yards and 6 TD's? In one game? ... hey, hey ... don't rub it in, ... but yeah, our defenses are about equal and even the offenses, for the most part ... it's the run game where New Orleans kicks Detroit's ass in a poll like this ... goddang Lions' run game, it's non-existent. Originally Posted by FinSaint Well, I'd rather have the actual Super Bowl title than the victory is this meaningless pole. ... had you worried there for a moment, eh? . ... just a little good-natured fun guys, I'm sure y'all know how it feels to go from 'worst-to-first' ... that's where I'm at on this, just sitting here happy that the Lions are getting some press, . CharityMike likes this.

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