Fan sets up Drew Brees fund

The Dude · 06-01-2012, 03:49 PM

I think Brees sits out.

FinSaint · 06-01-2012, 06:45 PM

Once again it's not about a lack of funds by the ownership or them not wanting to pay Brees what he is worth - in the era of strict salary caps, a team can't just pay whatever a player thinks he deserves and keep all the other players happy while keeping the team competitive in all positions.

Therefore, something like this fund is in itself useless. However, it might send a message to Brees' side and if the donations end up going to a charity then it'll be a good cause to donate to anyway.

I'm just frustrated with all the ignorant "pay the man" comments that are out there, because it is not that simple, if it was, Brees would've been signed a long time ago.

FinSaint · 06-01-2012, 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

I think Brees sits out.

I do hope you are wrong about that, but if he does, he is a complete tool in my book and he loses 90% of the respect I have for him.

It can't be 100% because in the end he played a big part in getting Saints their first Lombardi Trophy, and that is something that can't be taken away no matter what he does from now on out.

dsrdsrdsr · 06-04-2012, 08:30 PM

Originally Posted by Supertek

Look we are all poor compared to these standards. I just think this it is about money structure and long term security. It may be about greed but why should not Brees get the same respect and security of say a Michael Vick whom I Ihate? So who is really at fault here? May be noone at fault just a hard deal to make. They used the horse to run the race and could have fixed this before now. My opinion is they should not have made him play out his contract and got this done before it came to thia.

It may be about "respect", but it certainly isn't about security. Someone who isn't secure on £21m per year won't be secure on £23m either.

Beastmode · 06-04-2012, 08:42 PM

The reasoning on how it could work out for him if he sits does make sense, especially if he went to a city with more marketing potential...that's more endorsements, more money for his foundation (of which 80% he takes in is his), and of course a larger paycheck. I hate to say it, but financially it really could work out much better for him long term.

FinSaint · 06-05-2012, 03:04 AM

Originally Posted by dsrdsrdsr

It may be about "respect", but it certainly isn't about security. Someone who isn't secure on £21m per year won't be secure on £23m either.

I do hope you're wrong about those numbers, since £21m to £23m would be $32M to $35M.

UK_WhoDat · 06-05-2012, 04:37 AM

Well that trust fund is gonna need 1/2 of America donating to reach Condon levels.

Originally Posted by pherein

The greed is not Brees, its our culture. You just as greedy. Its an american thing..more more more. And it really never stops until you destroy the very thing you loved.

Originally Posted by Crusader

That i know, the only way to change such a culture is for strong individuals to say enough is enough and then do something else than chase wealth just for wealths sake.

Wll I ain't chasing money. The one big thing that I value is my health. With that I continue forwards trying to be as content as I can be. So yeah, I do have greed. Greed for health and contentment.

pherein · 06-06-2012, 01:01 AM

$2,455.36 so far, lol

I think this fund is luck if it gets to $50,000. Just enough to cover Brees's car tax :P

pherein · 06-06-2012, 01:08 AM

Originally Posted by UK_WhoDat

Well that trust fund is gonna need 1/2 of America donating to reach Condon levels.

Wll I ain't chasing money. The one big thing that I value is my health. With that I continue forwards trying to be as content as I can be. So yeah, I do have greed. Greed for health and contentment.

Im the same, but I love the money I make. Ive noticed thou even thou Im payed very well, my expenses keep going up. 20 years ago I wouldn't even know what to do with the money I make. Now, Id like a little more,lol.
Its kind of an endless cycle.
You get used to the motorcycles,big TV's, Direct TV, super high internet, high priced coffee, top appliances, vacations. Next thing you know your barely scratching by, and more green paper

Greed sneaks up on you I think.

Saint_LB · 06-06-2012, 08:53 AM

Most people know already that I have not been the biggest Brees fan and that was before all this came up. It's hard for me to keep sitting back and waiting...but there is an "I told you so" stuck inside me and just dying to get out. I am being patient and waiting this thing out...which is all we can do.

Here's my confusion...If Drew is that great...then why is he here? I know...he was injured...but let's play make believe. Let's make believe that he never played in SD and he came here first and had the success that he's had since he has been here...and then got the injury. Would we let him walk?

So, is it that Drew is that good, or Payton's schemes are that good, or San Diego's organization is that bad...or does the truth lie somewhere in the middle of all that?

We got a Lombardi, so I can take another 40+ years for another if I have to. I don't want to, but I'd rather they let him walk than to let him hold us hostage. I firmly believe that there is someone out there who can replace him if need be and within a few years people could be saying, "Drew who?" He wouldn't be the 1st Drew to experience this if it did indeed happen!

06-01-2012, 03:49 PM	#21
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,050	I think Brees sits out.
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06-01-2012, 06:45 PM	#22
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Once again it's not about a lack of funds by the ownership or them not wanting to pay Brees what he is worth - in the era of strict salary caps, a team can't just pay whatever a player thinks he deserves and keep all the other players happy while keeping the team competitive in all positions. Therefore, something like this fund is in itself useless. However, it might send a message to Brees' side and if the donations end up going to a charity then it'll be a good cause to donate to anyway. I'm just frustrated with all the ignorant "pay the man" comments that are out there, because it is not that simple, if it was, Brees would've been signed a long time ago. lynwood likes this.
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06-01-2012, 06:50 PM	#23
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Originally Posted by The Dude I think Brees sits out. I do hope you are wrong about that, but if he does, he is a complete tool in my book and he loses 90% of the respect I have for him. It can't be 100% because in the end he played a big part in getting Saints their first Lombardi Trophy, and that is something that can't be taken away no matter what he does from now on out.

06-04-2012, 08:30 PM	#24
dsrdsrdsr Registered Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 34	Originally Posted by Supertek Look we are all poor compared to these standards. I just think this it is about money structure and long term security. It may be about greed but why should not Brees get the same respect and security of say a Michael Vick whom I Ihate? So who is really at fault here? May be noone at fault just a hard deal to make. They used the horse to run the race and could have fixed this before now. My opinion is they should not have made him play out his contract and got this done before it came to thia. It may be about "respect", but it certainly isn't about security. Someone who isn't secure on £21m per year won't be secure on £23m either. lynwood likes this.
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06-04-2012, 08:42 PM	#25
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	The reasoning on how it could work out for him if he sits does make sense, especially if he went to a city with more marketing potential...that's more endorsements, more money for his foundation (of which 80% he takes in is his), and of course a larger paycheck. I hate to say it, but financially it really could work out much better for him long term.
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06-05-2012, 03:04 AM	#26
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Originally Posted by dsrdsrdsr It may be about "respect", but it certainly isn't about security. Someone who isn't secure on £21m per year won't be secure on £23m either. I do hope you're wrong about those numbers, since £21m to £23m would be $32M to $35M. sharke likes this.

06-05-2012, 04:37 AM	#27
UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 3,986	Well that trust fund is gonna need 1/2 of America donating to reach Condon levels. Originally Posted by pherein The greed is not Brees, its our culture. You just as greedy. Its an american thing..more more more. And it really never stops until you destroy the very thing you loved. Originally Posted by Crusader That i know, the only way to change such a culture is for strong individuals to say enough is enough and then do something else than chase wealth just for wealths sake. Wll I ain't chasing money. The one big thing that I value is my health. With that I continue forwards trying to be as content as I can be. So yeah, I do have greed. Greed for health and contentment.

06-06-2012, 01:01 AM	#28
pherein failclownHunter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: N.O. and V.A. Posts: 2,260 Blog Entries: 3	$2,455.36 so far, lol I think this fund is luck if it gets to $50,000. Just enough to cover Brees's car tax :P

06-06-2012, 01:08 AM	#29
pherein failclownHunter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: N.O. and V.A. Posts: 2,260 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by UK_WhoDat Well that trust fund is gonna need 1/2 of America donating to reach Condon levels. Wll I ain't chasing money. The one big thing that I value is my health. With that I continue forwards trying to be as content as I can be. So yeah, I do have greed. Greed for health and contentment. Im the same, but I love the money I make. Ive noticed thou even thou Im payed very well, my expenses keep going up. 20 years ago I wouldn't even know what to do with the money I make. Now, Id like a little more,lol. Its kind of an endless cycle. You get used to the motorcycles,big TV's, Direct TV, super high internet, high priced coffee, top appliances, vacations. Next thing you know your barely scratching by, and more green paper Greed sneaks up on you I think.
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06-06-2012, 08:53 AM	#30
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Most people know already that I have not been the biggest Brees fan and that was before all this came up. It's hard for me to keep sitting back and waiting...but there is an "I told you so" stuck inside me and just dying to get out. I am being patient and waiting this thing out...which is all we can do. Here's my confusion...If Drew is that great...then why is he here? I know...he was injured...but let's play make believe. Let's make believe that he never played in SD and he came here first and had the success that he's had since he has been here...and then got the injury. Would we let him walk? So, is it that Drew is that good, or Payton's schemes are that good, or San Diego's organization is that bad...or does the truth lie somewhere in the middle of all that? We got a Lombardi, so I can take another 40+ years for another if I have to. I don't want to, but I'd rather they let him walk than to let him hold us hostage. I firmly believe that there is someone out there who can replace him if need be and within a few years people could be saying, "Drew who?" He wouldn't be the 1st Drew to experience this if it did indeed happen!
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Whether you think you can or think you can't...you're right!

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