Who's side is DeMaurice Smith really on?

TheOak · 06-19-2012, 01:35 PM

I actually have zero knowledge of unions other than what I have seen or read.... I do have a fair bit of experience with "risk management" however.

B. Personal Conduct Policy
The Policy received a wholesale revision when then-new NFL
Commissioner Roger Goodell overhauled the existing player conduct policy to
include off the field conduct.43 The Policy states, "[a]ll persons associated
with the NFL are required to avoid 'conduct detrimental to the integrity of and
public confidence in the National Football League." ' 44 The Policy gives the
Commissioner the ultimate authority to discipline any violator of the Policy
and the power to review any appeal. 45 The Commissioner's absolute authority
over the discipline and appeals of players may be a hot topic at the bargaining
table.

The way I read this ... This was new verbiage put into the new CBA. I believe I also read somewhere that Goodell demanded it... Which should have raised a big ole red flag for the NFLPA.
http://scholarship.law.marquette.edu...text=sportslaw

Marquette's Sports Law Review apparently identified as a problem before the CBA was signed.

Its risk management, planning for the forecasted and the unforeseen. Smith was paid handsomely to make sure the players were not put in a bad spot... and he has failed miserably.

You never put any one person in absolute control, there must always be checks and balances.

People go batsh1t crazy everyday and protection from that is a must in any legally binding document.

saintfan · 06-19-2012, 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by x626xBlack

I actually have zero knowledge of unions other than what I have seen or read.... I do have a fair bit of experience with "risk management" however.

B. Personal Conduct Policy
The Policy received a wholesale revision when then-new NFL
Commissioner Roger Goodell overhauled the existing player conduct policy to
include off the field conduct.43 The Policy states, "[a]ll persons associated
with the NFL are required to avoid 'conduct detrimental to the integrity of and
public confidence in the National Football League." ' 44 The Policy gives the
Commissioner the ultimate authority to discipline any violator of the Policy
and the power to review any appeal. 45 The Commissioner's absolute authority
over the discipline and appeals of players may be a hot topic at the bargaining
table.

The way I read this ... This was new verbiage put into the new CBA. I believe I also read somewhere that Goodell demanded it... Which should have raised a big ole red flag for the NFLPA.
http://scholarship.law.marquette.edu...text=sportslaw

Marquette's Sports Law Review apparently identified as a problem before the CBA was signed.

Its risk management, planning for the forecasted and the unforeseen. Smith was paid handsomely to make sure the players were not put in a bad spot... and he has failed miserably.

You never put any one person in absolute control, there must always be checks and balances.

People go batsh1t crazy everyday and protection from that is a must in any legally binding document.

Well then if this unilateral control is new then I agree 100% that Smith has failed 100% and the NFLPA should replace him immediately. AND they should strike...just sayin...

TheOak · 06-19-2012, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

Well then if this unilateral control is new then I agree 100% that Smith has failed 100% and the NFLPA should replace him immediately. AND they should strike...just sayin...

They can't strike with out being decertified as a union at this point, they can replace him though...

Once you have the opinion that the CBA is the reason Goodell has all of this power, then in essence you agree that it is the NFLPA that caused this and the players can not take it out on the NFL, they have to take it out on their illustrious leader.

A strike is only justified if the terms of the CBA are not met.

A point to ponder is that ex-players are not getting what they need from the NFLPA but Smith received a $1m bonus...

06-19-2012, 01:35 PM	#1
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,050	I actually have zero knowledge of unions other than what I have seen or read.... I do have a fair bit of experience with "risk management" however. B. Personal Conduct Policy The Policy received a wholesale revision when then-new NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell overhauled the existing player conduct policy to include off the field conduct.43 The Policy states, "[a]ll persons associated with the NFL are required to avoid 'conduct detrimental to the integrity of and public confidence in the National Football League." ' 44 The Policy gives the Commissioner the ultimate authority to discipline any violator of the Policy and the power to review any appeal. 45 The Commissioner's absolute authority over the discipline and appeals of players may be a hot topic at the bargaining table. The way I read this ... This was new verbiage put into the new CBA. I believe I also read somewhere that Goodell demanded it... Which should have raised a big ole red flag for the NFLPA. http://scholarship.law.marquette.edu...text=sportslaw Marquette's Sports Law Review apparently identified as a problem before the CBA was signed. Its risk management, planning for the forecasted and the unforeseen. Smith was paid handsomely to make sure the players were not put in a bad spot... and he has failed miserably. You never put any one person in absolute control, there must always be checks and balances. People go batsh1t crazy everyday and protection from that is a must in any legally binding document.
	It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. ~ Henry David Thoreau

06-19-2012, 01:37 PM	#2
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by x626xBlack I actually have zero knowledge of unions other than what I have seen or read.... I do have a fair bit of experience with "risk management" however. B. Personal Conduct Policy The Policy received a wholesale revision when then-new NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell overhauled the existing player conduct policy to include off the field conduct.43 The Policy states, "[a]ll persons associated with the NFL are required to avoid 'conduct detrimental to the integrity of and public confidence in the National Football League." ' 44 The Policy gives the Commissioner the ultimate authority to discipline any violator of the Policy and the power to review any appeal. 45 The Commissioner's absolute authority over the discipline and appeals of players may be a hot topic at the bargaining table. The way I read this ... This was new verbiage put into the new CBA. I believe I also read somewhere that Goodell demanded it... Which should have raised a big ole red flag for the NFLPA. http://scholarship.law.marquette.edu...text=sportslaw Marquette's Sports Law Review apparently identified as a problem before the CBA was signed. Its risk management, planning for the forecasted and the unforeseen. Smith was paid handsomely to make sure the players were not put in a bad spot... and he has failed miserably. You never put any one person in absolute control, there must always be checks and balances. People go batsh1t crazy everyday and protection from that is a must in any legally binding document. Well then if this unilateral control is new then I agree 100% that Smith has failed 100% and the NFLPA should replace him immediately. AND they should strike...just sayin...

06-19-2012, 02:29 PM	#3
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,050	Originally Posted by saintfan Well then if this unilateral control is new then I agree 100% that Smith has failed 100% and the NFLPA should replace him immediately. AND they should strike...just sayin... They can't strike with out being decertified as a union at this point, they can replace him though... Once you have the opinion that the CBA is the reason Goodell has all of this power, then in essence you agree that it is the NFLPA that caused this and the players can not take it out on the NFL, they have to take it out on their illustrious leader. A strike is only justified if the terms of the CBA are not met. A point to ponder is that ex-players are not getting what they need from the NFLPA but Smith received a $1m bonus...
	It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. ~ Henry David Thoreau

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