Had enough? (Participation Requested)

TheOak · 06-22-2012, 10:01 AM

I have never been one to subscribe to cutting off my nose to spite my face. Fight it yes... but to what cost? And inevitably what gain? Our Saints are football players and do not need any distractions during the season added onto the normal stress and strain.

Halo · 06-22-2012, 11:20 AM

You forgot 1 other addition to the poll:

"Fight until we as fans lose our collective minds"

I mean, this is killing us as fans because we're just football fans for cris-sakes, not Nazi activists or conspiracy theorists.

I know so many here are tired of the issue but we have an obligation as fans to push back to an extent otherwise Goodell would simply ROLL over us.

pinch · 06-22-2012, 12:27 PM

As a team, I think it is time to move on. Goodell will not be reversing his decision and he will not be reducing penalties. He has to preserve a zero-tolerance policy in preparation of the legal disputes to come regarding head trauma.

For the individuals who were penalized, their integrity was challenged and I encourage them to continue the fight. Plus, they may be able to prolong the process long enough to play for this season.

All in all, this isn't something we should dwell on as the season approaches. The punishments have been handed down, they're probably final, so let's start focusing on football and what we can do to win a Superbowl.

saintfan · 06-22-2012, 12:33 PM

The ONLY chance for the NFL to remain anything that resembles, well, the NFL, is for the NFLPA to DEMAND that Roger Goodell be removed from his position or accept some power checks as it relates to player fines and suspensions. He simply cannot remain all powerful, because we see where that has taken us.

I know these are unprecedented times for the NFL. I know it has to focus on player safety. What I also know is the NFL needs to ensure that an honest and forthright person is in charge. Right now that is not the case.

halloween 65 · 06-22-2012, 12:48 PM

If I didn't do what was said, why would I have to pay. Goddell needs to admit his information is wrong and apologize and retract the penalties he put on the players ( and coaches) and have a board put under his dumb a$$ to make sure he has the goods he says he has. He sux!!

Utah_Saint · 06-22-2012, 04:19 PM

Pardon me if I'm missing something obvious, I live in somewhat of an NFL black hole, but what is it that the Saints organization is still doing that they need to give up? Are they representing Vilma or Smith in some way? Are they still fighting anything?

Benson apologized and gave his word that the Saints would cooperate in the investigation in any way they could. Loomis, Payton, Williams and Vitt all apologized, appealed and accepted their punishments.

The NFLPA is contesting the suspensions of the players, and Vilma has a personal slander suit against Goodell.

Are the Saints actively involved anymore?

pherein · 06-23-2012, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

Are the Saints actively involved anymore?

There is no way to answer that. If their were a movement by the Saints organization to support and provide the players with assistance it would never be publicly acknowledged .

AllSaints · 06-22-2012, 03:47 PM

Fight for what.... The suspensions have been made n they is nothin we can do about it n the players r trying to do something about it... But it's too late... Vilma should have went to see Goodell when he had a chance to do so.... I no every says it's not fair n it's not but what's done is done Sean not coming bak Vilma won't be so jus deal with it....

neugey · 06-22-2012, 10:39 PM

Would this be a poll option as well ...

saintsfan1976 · 06-23-2012, 06:51 AM

The severity of punishments is not for the actions of a team but for the inaction of the coaches ie, lying

Like Vitt said, "We are being punished for the spoken word, not the action"

He's right.

View Poll Results: What would you be willing to live with to make this all end?
I accept nothing, fight to the bitter end regardless of the damage done.	25	40.32%
We should over and accept that there may not be an option other than taking what is dished out.	7	11.29%
Everyone admits to equal wrong doing. Goodell cuts all suspensions in half and the fight ends.	27	43.55%
Both agree to equal wrong doing and all Player suspensions are cut in half.	3	4.84%
Voters: 62. You may not vote on this poll

06-22-2012, 11:20 AM	#2
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,894 Blog Entries: 45	You forgot 1 other addition to the poll: "Fight until we as fans lose our collective minds" I mean, this is killing us as fans because we're just football fans for cris-sakes, not Nazi activists or conspiracy theorists. I know so many here are tired of the issue but we have an obligation as fans to push back to an extent otherwise Goodell would simply ROLL over us. mutineer10, pherein, SaintsBro and 1 others like this.

06-22-2012, 12:27 PM	#3
pinch 100th Post Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Diamondhead, MS Posts: 272 Blog Entries: 1	As a team, move on As a team, I think it is time to move on. Goodell will not be reversing his decision and he will not be reducing penalties. He has to preserve a zero-tolerance policy in preparation of the legal disputes to come regarding head trauma. For the individuals who were penalized, their integrity was challenged and I encourage them to continue the fight. Plus, they may be able to prolong the process long enough to play for this season. All in all, this isn't something we should dwell on as the season approaches. The punishments have been handed down, they're probably final, so let's start focusing on football and what we can do to win a Superbowl. TheOak likes this.

06-22-2012, 12:33 PM	#4
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	The ONLY chance for the NFL to remain anything that resembles, well, the NFL, is for the NFLPA to DEMAND that Roger Goodell be removed from his position or accept some power checks as it relates to player fines and suspensions. He simply cannot remain all powerful, because we see where that has taken us. I know these are unprecedented times for the NFL. I know it has to focus on player safety. What I also know is the NFL needs to ensure that an honest and forthright person is in charge. Right now that is not the case. pherein likes this.

06-23-2012, 11:48 AM	#7
pherein failclownHunter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: N.O. and V.A. Posts: 2,260 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by Utah_Saint Are the Saints actively involved anymore? There is no way to answer that. If their were a movement by the Saints organization to support and provide the players with assistance it would never be publicly acknowledged .

06-22-2012, 10:01 AM	#1
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	I have never been one to subscribe to cutting off my nose to spite my face. Fight it yes... but to what cost? And inevitably what gain? Our Saints are football players and do not need any distractions during the season added onto the normal stress and strain.

06-22-2012, 12:48 PM	#5
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	If I didn't do what was said, why would I have to pay. Goddell needs to admit his information is wrong and apologize and retract the penalties he put on the players ( and coaches) and have a board put under his dumb a$$ to make sure he has the goods he says he has. He sux!!

06-22-2012, 04:19 PM	#6
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Pardon me if I'm missing something obvious, I live in somewhat of an NFL black hole, but what is it that the Saints organization is still doing that they need to give up? Are they representing Vilma or Smith in some way? Are they still fighting anything? Benson apologized and gave his word that the Saints would cooperate in the investigation in any way they could. Loomis, Payton, Williams and Vitt all apologized, appealed and accepted their punishments. The NFLPA is contesting the suspensions of the players, and Vilma has a personal slander suit against Goodell. Are the Saints actively involved anymore?

06-22-2012, 03:47 PM	#8
AllSaints Breakin Records Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Deville, Louisiana Posts: 2,167	Fight for what.... The suspensions have been made n they is nothin we can do about it n the players r trying to do something about it... But it's too late... Vilma should have went to see Goodell when he had a chance to do so.... I no every says it's not fair n it's not but what's done is done Sean not coming bak Vilma won't be so jus deal with it....

06-22-2012, 10:39 PM	#9
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,855 Blog Entries: 13	Would this be a poll option as well ... mutineer10, Rugby Saint II, SaintsBro and 1 others like this.

06-23-2012, 06:51 AM	#10
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,019 Blog Entries: 3	The severity of punishments is not for the actions of a team but for the inaction of the coaches ie, lying Like Vitt said, "We are being punished for the spoken word, not the action" He's right.

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