NFLPA Wants NFL to Reopen Investigation

TheOak · 06-25-2012, 03:40 PM

I do not see how a "do over" would change anything... The league is not going to just throw away what they have, the NFLPA was asked to be part of the investigation already and they "chose" to do their own thing. This is more of a tactic to try and see everything which the NFL has already told them no on.

Smith: This is where you messed up yet again.
"Smith and the NFLPA were invited to be a part of the NFL's investigation, according to a league source, but the union declined and conducted its own investigation."

This is Smith trying to keep the fire stoked. He has based his statements on "assumptions". Of course the testimony the NFL received was complete, and of curse they hand picked what they wanted to release.

Smith mishandled this from the start when he told the players to not go to NY and talk to the league... That was a show of "non-cooperation".

saintfan · 06-25-2012, 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by x626xBlack

I do not see how a "do over" would change anything... The league is not going to just throw away what they have, the NFLPA was asked to be part of the investigation already and they "chose" to do their own thing. This is more of a tactic to try and see everything which the NFL has already told them no on.

Smith: This is where you messed up yet again.
"Smith and the NFLPA were invited to be a part of the NFL's investigation, according to a league source, but the union declined and conducted its own investigation."

This is Smith trying to keep the fire stoked. He has based his statements on "assumptions". Of course the testimony the NFL received was complete, and of curse they hand picked what they wanted to release.

Smith mishandled this from the start when he told the players to not go to NY and talk to the league... That was a show of "non-cooperation".

But at what point was the Union invited? 3 years ago? 6 months ago? Three months ago? If Roger already has his evidence he'd already put his spin on it and so what would the Union have to gain?

I wouldn't talk either until I knew what, PRECISELY, I was being accused of. I think any lawyer worth his salt would agree. Am I crazy?

AsylumGuido · 06-25-2012, 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

But at what point was the Union invited? 3 years ago? 6 months ago? Three months ago? If Roger already has his evidence he'd already put his spin on it and so what would the Union have to gain?

I wouldn't talk either until I knew what, PRECISELY, I was being accused of. I think any lawyer worth his salt would agree. Am I crazy?

Um. No.

Rugby Saint II · 06-25-2012, 07:50 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Um. No.

Quote-Unquote!!!

TheOak · 06-26-2012, 07:47 AM

Originally Posted by saintfan

But at what point was the Union invited? 3 years ago? 6 months ago? Three months ago? If Roger already has his evidence he'd already put his spin on it and so what would the Union have to gain?

I wouldn't talk either until I knew what, PRECISELY, I was being accused of. I think any lawyer worth his salt would agree. Am I crazy?

I am wired differently. If you openly accuse me of something that I did not do, I am coming to see you... You will accuse me to my face, I may not say a word in reply that day, I may not answer any of your questions.... but you will look into my eyes and accuse me of what ever it is like a man... no lawyer, union, or agent, will prevent that from happening.

The Union was notified hours before the NFL's findings were released. How would you handle an investigation? Go public with a "we are going to start our investigation" statement? I can just hear the shredders starting to shred, and the delete keys being hit feverishly. In utopia the NFLPA and the NFL would join hands and each sit side by side looking through all that needed to be looked through... teams would not delete any mail or shred any notes, they would box everything up and give it to the league. We do not live in Fountaingrove... We live in a society of mendacious people that make a living through deceit, slight of hand, and obfuscation of the facts.... equally on BOTH sides.

06-25-2012, 03:40 PM	#1
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,043	I do not see how a "do over" would change anything... The league is not going to just throw away what they have, the NFLPA was asked to be part of the investigation already and they "chose" to do their own thing. This is more of a tactic to try and see everything which the NFL has already told them no on. Smith: This is where you messed up yet again. "Smith and the NFLPA were invited to be a part of the NFL's investigation, according to a league source, but the union declined and conducted its own investigation." This is Smith trying to keep the fire stoked. He has based his statements on "assumptions". Of course the testimony the NFL received was complete, and of curse they hand picked what they wanted to release. Smith mishandled this from the start when he told the players to not go to NY and talk to the league... That was a show of "non-cooperation".
	It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. ~ Henry David Thoreau

06-25-2012, 05:06 PM	#2
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by x626xBlack I do not see how a "do over" would change anything... The league is not going to just throw away what they have, the NFLPA was asked to be part of the investigation already and they "chose" to do their own thing. This is more of a tactic to try and see everything which the NFL has already told them no on. Smith: This is where you messed up yet again. "Smith and the NFLPA were invited to be a part of the NFL's investigation, according to a league source, but the union declined and conducted its own investigation." This is Smith trying to keep the fire stoked. He has based his statements on "assumptions". Of course the testimony the NFL received was complete, and of curse they hand picked what they wanted to release. Smith mishandled this from the start when he told the players to not go to NY and talk to the league... That was a show of "non-cooperation". But at what point was the Union invited? 3 years ago? 6 months ago? Three months ago? If Roger already has his evidence he'd already put his spin on it and so what would the Union have to gain? I wouldn't talk either until I knew what, PRECISELY, I was being accused of. I think any lawyer worth his salt would agree. Am I crazy?

06-25-2012, 06:59 PM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,573	Originally Posted by saintfan But at what point was the Union invited? 3 years ago? 6 months ago? Three months ago? If Roger already has his evidence he'd already put his spin on it and so what would the Union have to gain? I wouldn't talk either until I knew what, PRECISELY, I was being accused of. I think any lawyer worth his salt would agree. Am I crazy? Um. No. Rugby Saint II likes this.

06-25-2012, 07:50 PM	#4
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,133	Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Um. No. Quote-Unquote!!!

06-26-2012, 07:47 AM	#5
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,043	Originally Posted by saintfan But at what point was the Union invited? 3 years ago? 6 months ago? Three months ago? If Roger already has his evidence he'd already put his spin on it and so what would the Union have to gain? I wouldn't talk either until I knew what, PRECISELY, I was being accused of. I think any lawyer worth his salt would agree. Am I crazy? I am wired differently. If you openly accuse me of something that I did not do, I am coming to see you... You will accuse me to my face, I may not say a word in reply that day, I may not answer any of your questions.... but you will look into my eyes and accuse me of what ever it is like a man... no lawyer, union, or agent, will prevent that from happening. The Union was notified hours before the NFL's findings were released. How would you handle an investigation? Go public with a "we are going to start our investigation" statement? I can just hear the shredders starting to shred, and the delete keys being hit feverishly. In utopia the NFLPA and the NFL would join hands and each sit side by side looking through all that needed to be looked through... teams would not delete any mail or shred any notes, they would box everything up and give it to the league. We do not live in Fountaingrove... We live in a society of mendacious people that make a living through deceit, slight of hand, and obfuscation of the facts.... equally on BOTH sides.
	It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. ~ Henry David Thoreau

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