From the ground... to the air... back to the ground?

TheOak · 07-06-2012, 12:03 PM

We all know that the game has transitioned from a ground game to a more pass oriented game. We also know that the NFL is changing the rules to make it more of a pass happy league because they believe that is what fans want to see. $$$

In a 2010 concussion report
Concussions by “general” Position

QB = 11
RB = 12
TE = 15
WR = 28
OL = 15
- Offense = 81 (48.5%)
DL = 17
LB = 25
DB = 44
- Defense = 86 (51.5%)

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Lets look at the numbers.
Offense had 81 Concussions, of those 81 ... 54 were positions relevant to the passing game.

Defense has 86 concussions, of those 86, DB had 44, LB had 25 (I am going to assume a good majority of those LB concussions were passing plays for the sake of this argument.

Defensive Backs have nearly twice the concussion rate of any other position. Possibly due to poor form tackling, but probably due to the increased amount of momentum that a CB and WR have over say a LB and a HB...

So out of 167 total concussions, 125 were relayed to the passing game.

That's a 77% concussion rate due to the passing game.

Would just changing rules to make a more balanced game make it safer?

Discuss.

WhoDat!656 · 07-06-2012, 12:15 PM

As a fan, do you want 'safer' game, or a fast-paced, high-scoring game?

Just like everything, $$ will be the deciding factor, player safety be damned!

saintfan · 07-06-2012, 12:34 PM

I think this is excellent point sir! The 'safety-conscious' NFL changed the rules that have made the game a more dangerous one. Why? For the all-mighty dollar.

Excellent point indeed!

You sure you aren't a lawyer? LMAO

TheOak · 07-06-2012, 02:31 PM

I am oilfield trash from Abbeville Louisiana.

Rugby Saint II · 07-06-2012, 03:14 PM

Awesome stats.....thanks for sharing.

SloMotion · 07-06-2012, 03:58 PM

... interesting conundrum, but I can't see the NFL returning to the single-score, grind-'em-out games of the 60's/70's ... they'll lose their fanbase.

saintsfan1976 · 07-06-2012, 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by SloMotion

... interesting conundrum, but I can't see the NFL returning to the single-score, grind-'em-out games of the 60's/70's ... they'll lose their fanbase.

They're losing it now...

|Mitch| · 07-06-2012, 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by SloMotion

... interesting conundrum, but I can't see the NFL returning to the single-score, grind-'em-out games of the 60's/70's ... they'll lose their fanbase.

I actually prefer the defensive games; but good luck trying to hold Brees to 1-2 scores

SloMotion · 07-06-2012, 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

I actually prefer the defensive games; but good luck trying to hold Brees to 1-2 scores

I prefer 'em too ... but imagine if they went back to the coverage rules of the 60's/70's? Drew would still put up the points, but he'd work a lot harder at it ... it'd seperate the men-from-the-boys in the QB ranks, that's for sure.

07-06-2012, 12:03 PM	#1
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	From the ground... to the air... back to the ground? We all know that the game has transitioned from a ground game to a more pass oriented game. We also know that the NFL is changing the rules to make it more of a pass happy league because they believe that is what fans want to see. $$$ In a 2010 concussion report Concussions by “general” Position QB = 11 RB = 12 TE = 15 WR = 28 OL = 15 Offense = 81 (48.5%) DL = 17 LB = 25 DB = 44 Defense = 86 (51.5%) ------------------------------------------------------------ Lets look at the numbers. Offense had 81 Concussions, of those 81 ... 54 were positions relevant to the passing game. Defense has 86 concussions, of those 86, DB had 44, LB had 25 (I am going to assume a good majority of those LB concussions were passing plays for the sake of this argument. Defensive Backs have nearly twice the concussion rate of any other position. Possibly due to poor form tackling, but probably due to the increased amount of momentum that a CB and WR have over say a LB and a HB... So out of 167 total concussions, 125 were relayed to the passing game. That's a 77% concussion rate due to the passing game. Would just changing rules to make a more balanced game make it safer? Discuss. Rugby Saint II likes this.
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07-06-2012, 12:34 PM	#3
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	I think this is excellent point sir! The 'safety-conscious' NFL changed the rules that have made the game a more dangerous one. Why? For the all-mighty dollar. Excellent point indeed! You sure you aren't a lawyer? LMAO TheOak likes this.

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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,846 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by SloMotion ... interesting conundrum, but I can't see the NFL returning to the single-score, grind-'em-out games of the 60's/70's ... they'll lose their fanbase. They're losing it now...

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\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Originally Posted by SloMotion ... interesting conundrum, but I can't see the NFL returning to the single-score, grind-'em-out games of the 60's/70's ... they'll lose their fanbase. I actually prefer the defensive games; but good luck trying to hold Brees to 1-2 scores

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SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	... interesting conundrum, but I can't see the NFL returning to the single-score, grind-'em-out games of the 60's/70's ... they'll lose their fanbase.

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SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| I actually prefer the defensive games; but good luck trying to hold Brees to 1-2 scores I prefer 'em too ... but imagine if they went back to the coverage rules of the 60's/70's? Drew would still put up the points, but he'd work a lot harder at it ... it'd seperate the men-from-the-boys in the QB ranks, that's for sure.

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