Danno

Fin, he kicked it right to Basket, who bounced it off his friggin head. It was a surprise kick, in fact it may have been the biggest surprise on-sides kick in NFL history, and the success rate of surprise kicks is 60%.

Oh, and this is off-topic. We aren't debating whether or not he's a good punter or a KO specialist. He is a good punter, in fact I'd say he's a great punter. But he's still a punter and a punter is the least important position on the team.

To put him ahead of Devery Henderson, Cameron Jordan, Mark Ingram, Chris Ivory, Zack Strief, Sedrick Ellis and Patrick Robinson is beyond ridiculous.

That may be the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life.

FinSaint

I agree wholeheartedly with you that it's insane to rank him #18 from the whole Saints' roster, and I also agree with you on that he is a great punter. The fact that he is also in charge of the kick offs gives him additional value along with the fact that he has such a high number of touchbacks from those kick offs, but that doesn't equate to being #18.

I was speaking about onside kicks in general, not as much about the SB onside kick by him, so in that regard you are right, but I do think that you are undervaluing the difficulty of kicking a successful onside kick in general.

"I'm not bashing people, I'm bashing their opinions because in my opinion their opinion is wrong" - Danno