No movement on Brees talks - Brees has had highest paid player in NFL deal on table since 6/11/12

burningmetal · 07-10-2012, 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by x626xBlack

Are you serious? "Taken advantage of"?

It is the front offices job to get Brees as absolutely cheap as possible, and it is Brees's job to get as much money as he can. Negotiations always come down to the wire because both sides have directly conflicting interests.

The front office starts out at 1 and Brees starts out at 10.... No one jumps to 5 off the bat even though both parties know they will probably end up at 5. Each side moves at a very slow pace incrementally hoping the other side will panic and agree to a deal before it reaches the middle.

This exact reason is why not everyone is cut out or can stomach contract negotiations, it is why players have reps that can stomach the game... contract negotiations are a game of chicken to see who turns first.

What Brees KNOWS is that on the open market some team will be eager to pay him 25 mil a year to have a Superbowl winning caliber QB. There are presently ONLY 5 playing in the league that are proven, and none are on the market. There are a lot of teams that are a Drew Brees away from winning a Super Bowl. The 49er's with Brees at QB is a perfect example.

That could possibly be true, but keep in mind that there are presently no teams with the kind of talent the Saints have assembled around him. Green Bay and maybe New England were the only teams anywhere near our class in terms of offensive production last year, but neither of those teams has the depth of weapons we do. So if Drew is interested in winning, which I think he is, then he would be unwise to walk away from this team.

He's playing hardball now, but if the Saints don't cave first I think he will. No way he's leaving the Saints. So given the Saints cap situation, this is what has a lot of us annoyed that this contract isn't done. Because what the Saints have offered is probably more than they can truly afford without shuffling some existing contracts. Everyone seems to believe the hang up is guaranteed money... Well, guaranteed money is what counts against the cap in the first place. It's up to him whether he wants to win and make good money or be on a mediocre team (or at least a mediocre offense from a personnel standpoint) for slightly more money.

I believe Drew is the best QB in the league, but of all the great quarterbacks in the league, they've all had their success in one system. Nobody knows what any of them would do if they ran a different offense. It's risky for a man at 33 years of age to assume that he could go somewhere else and turn that team around quickly. All the pieces are in place here for him to simply continue his dominance.

07-10-2012, 10:30 AM	#26
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by x626xBlack Are you serious? "Taken advantage of"? It is the front offices job to get Brees as absolutely cheap as possible, and it is Brees's job to get as much money as he can. Negotiations always come down to the wire because both sides have directly conflicting interests. The front office starts out at 1 and Brees starts out at 10.... No one jumps to 5 off the bat even though both parties know they will probably end up at 5. Each side moves at a very slow pace incrementally hoping the other side will panic and agree to a deal before it reaches the middle. This exact reason is why not everyone is cut out or can stomach contract negotiations, it is why players have reps that can stomach the game... contract negotiations are a game of chicken to see who turns first. What Brees KNOWS is that on the open market some team will be eager to pay him 25 mil a year to have a Superbowl winning caliber QB. There are presently ONLY 5 playing in the league that are proven, and none are on the market. There are a lot of teams that are a Drew Brees away from winning a Super Bowl. The 49er's with Brees at QB is a perfect example. That could possibly be true, but keep in mind that there are presently no teams with the kind of talent the Saints have assembled around him. Green Bay and maybe New England were the only teams anywhere near our class in terms of offensive production last year, but neither of those teams has the depth of weapons we do. So if Drew is interested in winning, which I think he is, then he would be unwise to walk away from this team. He's playing hardball now, but if the Saints don't cave first I think he will. No way he's leaving the Saints. So given the Saints cap situation, this is what has a lot of us annoyed that this contract isn't done. Because what the Saints have offered is probably more than they can truly afford without shuffling some existing contracts. Everyone seems to believe the hang up is guaranteed money... Well, guaranteed money is what counts against the cap in the first place. It's up to him whether he wants to win and make good money or be on a mediocre team (or at least a mediocre offense from a personnel standpoint) for slightly more money. I believe Drew is the best QB in the league, but of all the great quarterbacks in the league, they've all had their success in one system. Nobody knows what any of them would do if they ran a different offense. It's risky for a man at 33 years of age to assume that he could go somewhere else and turn that team around quickly. All the pieces are in place here for him to simply continue his dominance.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

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