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saintfan · 06-06-2004, 09:07 PM

Quarterback Jake Delhomme, entering the final leg of the modest two-year free-agent contract he signed before last season, is the obvious target for a long-term extension and no doubt will sign one before training camp starts on July 29.

http://www.journalnow.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=WSJ%2FMGArticle%2FWSJ_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1031775900462&path=!sports

saintz08 · 06-07-2004, 02:15 AM

Delhomme certainly isn\'t stressed over it.

What , no holdout , no missing practices and no calling the management out in the press.

Impressive ........

saintfan · 06-07-2004, 08:13 AM

Yeah, but then he had money before the NFL. I give him credit tho...he never has been anything other than a class act.

WhoDat · 06-07-2004, 11:47 AM

I\'m confused - you told us that Delhomme would sign a long-term deal? You told us that deal would probably be \"modest\"? huh?

saintfan · 06-07-2004, 12:11 PM

I told you back when the argument was going on about teams spending too much money for their QB\'s and you were saying (praising) the Panther\'s got it right that Jake would sign a neal deal...I said these things in contrast to your argument regarding \"cheap\" QB\'s...you and others indicated I made it up because you hadn\'t heard anything about it. This is at least the third time I\'ve posted something related to the soon-to-be fact that Jake in fact WILL sign a new deal.

Shall I go find the original post and refresh your memory?

WhoDat · 06-07-2004, 01:37 PM

Yes I think you should go look at the old posts...

When did I ever say that Jake would not receive an extension? That was never the argument Saintfan. The argument was his cost to the team relative to his play. In fact, I believe I said that he was very likely to receive an extension, but even so, his salary would still be far less than Brooks\'.

Can you show me any information about the Panthers offering or Jake requesting a $36 million contract?

My argument was, and always has been, that a less expensive and \'servicable\' QB is preferable to me (and seems to be working quite well of recent in the NFL), as compared to the high paid \"Super Star\" QB. YOU polarized the argument and said that I wanted teams to always seek out the cheapest option available. Never did I say that and I have continued to correct you when you misrepresent that. Shall I find posts to demonstrate that?

[Edited on 7/6/2004 by WhoDat]

saintfan · 06-07-2004, 03:31 PM

Tell ya what \'dat...lets just sit back and observe the upcoming season and take note of two things:

Thing One: Will all those air balls Jake tossed straight up and dead center get knocked down or intercepted this year or will he continue to be the most fortunate man in football

Thing Two: Minus a stud or two on that Carolina line this year, will the Panthers running game be what it was, and if not, will Jake\'s good fortune follow suite?

Then I guess we\'ll see if what they\'re payin\' him meets with your approval.

WhoDat · 06-08-2004, 10:04 AM

Still missing the point Saintfan. The general concept is one in which you forego the big name QB in order to surround an average guy with a lot of weapons. Sure Delhomme\'s play will suffer as a result of injuries to his line. More pressure and a less effective running game will affect ANY quarterback - or do you think Brooks\' play would get better without three of his starting linemen?

I\'ll tell you what - we will see. If Brooks throws for 3,500 yards, 25 TDs, 10 INTs, and a completion rating of 60%, and Delhomme throws for a paltry 2,800 yards with 18 TDs, 12 INTs, and 57% but costs half of what Brooks does, it will be very tough for me to decide who is more valuable. I mean you tell me - a top ten guy who costs $6 mil or a middle of the pack guy (i.e. 15th) who costs $2 mil.

St.Shrume · 06-09-2004, 07:05 AM

I guess it would depend on who got their team to the playoffs and a chance at the Superbowl. Who cares about A.B. \'s stats? They\'re important and only matter in getting W\'s. If he has a stellar year but we do not make the playoffs, what woudl it matter?

If A.B. gets us to deep into the playoffs (ofcourse, its a team effort), i\'d be happy we paid A.B. $$$.

saintfan · 06-17-2004, 12:01 PM

Jake Delhomme was rewarded for helping guide the Carolina Panthers (news) to the Super Bowl Thursday with a five-year contract extension Thursday worth $38 million.

Delhomme will get $12 million up front, including a signing bonus and option bonuses. Delhomme had one year remaining on his two-year contract.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...thers_delhomme

Ya\'ll rekon he\'s worth 12 million up front, and 38 million over 5 years?

06-06-2004, 09:07 PM	#1
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	I told ya, yes I did... Quarterback Jake Delhomme, entering the final leg of the modest two-year free-agent contract he signed before last season, is the obvious target for a long-term extension and no doubt will sign one before training camp starts on July 29. http://www.journalnow.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=WSJ%2FMGArticle%2FWSJ_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1031775900462&path=!sports

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saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	I told ya, yes I did... Delhomme certainly isn\'t stressed over it. What , no holdout , no missing practices and no calling the management out in the press. Impressive ........
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saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	I told ya, yes I did... Yeah, but then he had money before the NFL. I give him credit tho...he never has been anything other than a class act.

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WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	I told ya, yes I did... I\'m confused - you told us that Delhomme would sign a long-term deal? You told us that deal would probably be \"modest\"? huh?
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saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	I told ya, yes I did... I told you back when the argument was going on about teams spending too much money for their QB\'s and you were saying (praising) the Panther\'s got it right that Jake would sign a neal deal...I said these things in contrast to your argument regarding \"cheap\" QB\'s...you and others indicated I made it up because you hadn\'t heard anything about it. This is at least the third time I\'ve posted something related to the soon-to-be fact that Jake in fact WILL sign a new deal. Shall I go find the original post and refresh your memory?
	C'mon Man...

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06-07-2004, 01:37 PM	#6
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	I told ya, yes I did... Yes I think you should go look at the old posts... When did I ever say that Jake would not receive an extension? That was never the argument Saintfan. The argument was his cost to the team relative to his play. In fact, I believe I said that he was very likely to receive an extension, but even so, his salary would still be far less than Brooks\'. Can you show me any information about the Panthers offering or Jake requesting a $36 million contract? My argument was, and always has been, that a less expensive and \'servicable\' QB is preferable to me (and seems to be working quite well of recent in the NFL), as compared to the high paid \"Super Star\" QB. YOU polarized the argument and said that I wanted teams to always seek out the cheapest option available. Never did I say that and I have continued to correct you when you misrepresent that. Shall I find posts to demonstrate that? [Edited on 7/6/2004 by WhoDat]
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06-07-2004, 03:31 PM	#7
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	I told ya, yes I did... Tell ya what \'dat...lets just sit back and observe the upcoming season and take note of two things: Thing One: Will all those air balls Jake tossed straight up and dead center get knocked down or intercepted this year or will he continue to be the most fortunate man in football Thing Two: Minus a stud or two on that Carolina line this year, will the Panthers running game be what it was, and if not, will Jake\'s good fortune follow suite? Then I guess we\'ll see if what they\'re payin\' him meets with your approval.
	C'mon Man...

06-08-2004, 10:04 AM	#8
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	I told ya, yes I did... Still missing the point Saintfan. The general concept is one in which you forego the big name QB in order to surround an average guy with a lot of weapons. Sure Delhomme\'s play will suffer as a result of injuries to his line. More pressure and a less effective running game will affect ANY quarterback - or do you think Brooks\' play would get better without three of his starting linemen? I\'ll tell you what - we will see. If Brooks throws for 3,500 yards, 25 TDs, 10 INTs, and a completion rating of 60%, and Delhomme throws for a paltry 2,800 yards with 18 TDs, 12 INTs, and 57% but costs half of what Brooks does, it will be very tough for me to decide who is more valuable. I mean you tell me - a top ten guy who costs $6 mil or a middle of the pack guy (i.e. 15th) who costs $2 mil.
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	\"Excuses, excuses, excuses. ThatÃ¢Â€Â™s all anyone ever makes for the New Orleans SaintsÃ¢Â€Â™ organization.\" - Eric Narcisse \"Being a Saints fan is almost like being addicted to crack,\" he said.[i]\"You know you should stop, but you just can\'t.\"

06-09-2004, 07:05 AM	#9
St.Shrume 100th Post Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 125	I told ya, yes I did... I guess it would depend on who got their team to the playoffs and a chance at the Superbowl. Who cares about A.B. \'s stats? They\'re important and only matter in getting W\'s. If he has a stellar year but we do not make the playoffs, what woudl it matter? If A.B. gets us to deep into the playoffs (ofcourse, its a team effort), i\'d be happy we paid A.B. $$$.
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06-17-2004, 12:01 PM	#10
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	I told ya, yes I did... Jake Delhomme was rewarded for helping guide the Carolina Panthers (news) to the Super Bowl Thursday with a five-year contract extension Thursday worth $38 million. Delhomme will get $12 million up front, including a signing bonus and option bonuses. Delhomme had one year remaining on his two-year contract. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...thers_delhomme Ya\'ll rekon he\'s worth 12 million up front, and 38 million over 5 years?