Ingram and Cadet

boonedocksaint · 08-06-2012, 03:52 AM

cadet didnt run worth, ****e, but, his recieving ability and yac yards were legit.

ivory, didnt look great tonight, but, as of right now, his job is safe.

burningmetal · 08-06-2012, 04:58 AM

Yeah Ivory was in with the scrubs, so it's kinda hard to make much of that, but he at least made some positive yards. Cadet showed his open field quickness that we'd heard about coming out of college, but he didn't show anything between the tackles. The Saints won't keep him to be a receiving back when they already have two of those who are quite good. He has a lot more time to show something, but as of now Cadet is the one on the outside.

As for Ingram, I thought he looked good, but he showed flashes last preseason as well. When the regular season came, he just ran into his own linemen over and over. I'll withhold my judgement on him until I see some consistency when it matters.

TheOak · 08-06-2012, 06:20 AM

Thomas - Looked great!
Ingram - I like the way he runs
Ivory - not so impressed.
Cadet - at this point if a decision had to be made, he replaces Ivory in the line up... But that is what preseason is for... lets see how he fairs the rest of the preseason, and see what Ivory can produce or if he even stays healthy the rest of preseason.

Ashley · 08-06-2012, 11:22 AM

What I liked is the interview after. Yes he talked about god( they all seem to do that), but what I liked was his manners. "yes sir". To me that stands out, that's the kind of players you want. If he makes the team or not, I do have respect for the young man.

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jeanpierre · 08-06-2012, 10:53 PM

Originally Posted by SaintsBro

Cadet's dreads are shorter, that's how I tell them apart. If they're both here in a year, and he lets them grow, they will be completely indistinguishable from one another on the field.

Talk about a mind-f*%k for the other team wondering if "that guy" ever gets tired or not being able to predict his tendencies...

Originally Posted by saintfan

Sorta like Mili-Vanili. Okay. I'm sorry. Somebody such punch my face for that one.

We hated them for what they did with the lipsynching, but those songs - "girl, you know it's true"...

Originally Posted by App90

...what I have noticed about the New Orleans coaching staff is that they find a way to make players from smaller schools fit in thier system. And its fun to root for them...

As Saint fan said, "you know it's true"

Originally Posted by Ashley

What I liked is the interview...he talked about God..., but what I liked was his manners. "yes sir". To me that stands out, that's the kind of players you want. If he makes the team or not, I do have respect for the young man.

And that's what you get from small school talent, guy's that have had humble pie and are ready to be quality people in life...

Free Payton!

The Dude · 08-06-2012, 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by x626xBlack

Thomas - Looked great!
Ingram - I like the way he runs
Ivory - not so impressed.
Cadet - at this point if a decision had to be made, he replaces Ivory in the line up... But that is what preseason is for... lets see how he fairs the rest of the preseason, and see what Ivory can produce or if he even stays healthy the rest of preseason.

I think Cadet is more comparable to Sproles running style than Ivorys. Ivory is a bruiser that runs hard up the middle punishing defensive lines but does not have a lot of quick moves and receiving abilities.Cadet seems to be better out of the backfield with short passes and likes to juke and use his speed to his advantage. Two completely different kinds of backs at this point. I want to see how well Cadet can run up the middle. He is definitely a keeper though and if cuts were today I would keep him over Ivory given his injury history. No way Cadet clears wires.

saintsfan1976 · 08-06-2012, 06:55 AM

I don't think Ivory did a bad job tonight. He ran with purpose and made some nifty catch & runs. His problem may have had more to do with the shoddy backup O line play..

That being said, I'm for trading Ivory. Do it while he's worth something.

Cadet clearly has ability. Continue the "Ivory's Got Talent" tour and eventually a team will have a need at RB

Seer1 · 08-06-2012, 09:26 AM

Anyone have a link to some stats? I've been searching your internets for a while and all I can find are punk assed sports "writers" giving their opinion of the game. I'd like to see some numbers on Ivory. I'm saying he had a better game than many of you are giving him credit for. Especially with him running behind the #2 & #3 linemen.

CharityMike · 08-06-2012, 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by Seer1

Anyone have a link to some stats? I've been searching your internets for a while and all I can find are punk assed sports "writers" giving their opinion of the game. I'd like to see some numbers on Ivory. I'm saying he had a better game than many of you are giving him credit for. Especially with him running behind the #2 & #3 linemen.

New Orleans Saints: Chris Ivory

9 attempts..13 yards. Not good.

Seer1 · 08-06-2012, 09:52 AM

Originally Posted by CharityMike

New Orleans Saints: Chris Ivory

9 attempts..13 yards. Not good.

Man, 1.4 average. My bad. Maybe it was his reception that stuck in my mind. I wasn't paying as much attention to the offense as I could've last night. It just seemed when I would look up he was running for 3-4 yards or really smacking into a defensive player. Selective memory, huh?

08-06-2012, 04:58 AM	#2
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Yeah Ivory was in with the scrubs, so it's kinda hard to make much of that, but he at least made some positive yards. Cadet showed his open field quickness that we'd heard about coming out of college, but he didn't show anything between the tackles. The Saints won't keep him to be a receiving back when they already have two of those who are quite good. He has a lot more time to show something, but as of now Cadet is the one on the outside. As for Ingram, I thought he looked good, but he showed flashes last preseason as well. When the regular season came, he just ran into his own linemen over and over. I'll withhold my judgement on him until I see some consistency when it matters. tommy582000 likes this.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

08-06-2012, 11:22 AM	#4
Ashley Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Colorado Springs Co Posts: 2,760	What I liked is the interview after. Yes he talked about god( they all seem to do that), but what I liked was his manners. "yes sir". To me that stands out, that's the kind of players you want. If he makes the team or not, I do have respect for the young man. New Orleans News, Local News, Breaking News, Weather \| wwltv.com \| Video sharke likes this.

08-06-2012, 10:53 PM	#5
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Originally Posted by SaintsBro Cadet's dreads are shorter, that's how I tell them apart. If they're both here in a year, and he lets them grow, they will be completely indistinguishable from one another on the field. Talk about a mind-f%k for the other team wondering if "that guy" ever gets tired or not being able to predict his tendencies... Originally Posted by saintfan* Sorta like Mili-Vanili. Okay. I'm sorry. Somebody such punch my face for that one. We hated them for what they did with the lipsynching, but those songs - "girl, you know it's true"... Originally Posted by App90 ...what I have noticed about the New Orleans coaching staff is that they find a way to make players from smaller schools fit in thier system. And its fun to root for them... As Saint fan said, "you know it's true" Originally Posted by Ashley What I liked is the interview...he talked about God..., but what I liked was his manners. "yes sir". To me that stands out, that's the kind of players you want. If he makes the team or not, I do have respect for the young man. And that's what you get from small school talent, guy's that have had humble pie and are ready to be quality people in life... Free Payton!

08-06-2012, 01:26 PM	#6
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,055	Originally Posted by x626xBlack Thomas - Looked great! Ingram - I like the way he runs Ivory - not so impressed. Cadet - at this point if a decision had to be made, he replaces Ivory in the line up... But that is what preseason is for... lets see how he fairs the rest of the preseason, and see what Ivory can produce or if he even stays healthy the rest of preseason. I think Cadet is more comparable to Sproles running style than Ivorys. Ivory is a bruiser that runs hard up the middle punishing defensive lines but does not have a lot of quick moves and receiving abilities.Cadet seems to be better out of the backfield with short passes and likes to juke and use his speed to his advantage. Two completely different kinds of backs at this point. I want to see how well Cadet can run up the middle. He is definitely a keeper though and if cuts were today I would keep him over Ivory given his injury history. No way Cadet clears wires.
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08-06-2012, 06:55 AM	#7
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,995 Blog Entries: 3	I don't think Ivory did a bad job tonight. He ran with purpose and made some nifty catch & runs. His problem may have had more to do with the shoddy backup O line play.. That being said, I'm for trading Ivory. Do it while he's worth something. Cadet clearly has ability. Continue the "Ivory's Got Talent" tour and eventually a team will have a need at RB saintfan and jeanpierre like this.

08-06-2012, 03:52 AM	#1
boonedocksaint 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 340	cadet didnt run worth, ****e, but, his recieving ability and yac yards were legit. ivory, didnt look great tonight, but, as of right now, his job is safe.

08-06-2012, 06:20 AM	#3
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,043	Thomas - Looked great! Ingram - I like the way he runs Ivory - not so impressed. Cadet - at this point if a decision had to be made, he replaces Ivory in the line up... But that is what preseason is for... lets see how he fairs the rest of the preseason, and see what Ivory can produce or if he even stays healthy the rest of preseason.

08-06-2012, 09:26 AM	#8
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Anyone have a link to some stats? I've been searching your internets for a while and all I can find are punk assed sports "writers" giving their opinion of the game. I'd like to see some numbers on Ivory. I'm saying he had a better game than many of you are giving him credit for. Especially with him running behind the #2 & #3 linemen.

08-06-2012, 09:39 AM	#9
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Originally Posted by Seer1 Anyone have a link to some stats? I've been searching your internets for a while and all I can find are punk assed sports "writers" giving their opinion of the game. I'd like to see some numbers on Ivory. I'm saying he had a better game than many of you are giving him credit for. Especially with him running behind the #2 & #3 linemen. New Orleans Saints: Chris Ivory 9 attempts..13 yards. Not good.

08-06-2012, 09:52 AM	#10
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Originally Posted by CharityMike New Orleans Saints: Chris Ivory 9 attempts..13 yards. Not good. Man, 1.4 average. My bad. Maybe it was his reception that stuck in my mind. I wasn't paying as much attention to the offense as I could've last night. It just seemed when I would look up he was running for 3-4 yards or really smacking into a defensive player. Selective memory, huh?