Sources: No settlement before ruling

SaintsBro · 08-09-2012, 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by x626xBlack

Its beyond the facts at this point... beyond evidence.

Taken at FACE VALUE, if Vilma says "I did not do anything they say I did"... But Sean Payton, Micky Loomis, and Greg Williams have already said "you caught us, sorry".... I have trouble, a lot of trouble, seeing that nothing has happened.

No evidence in the courtroom only testimony, if you put those three on the stand to explain what they apologized for and they state they apologized for doing what they shouldn't have, it annihilates Vilmas credibility.

Unless he has said or admitted something privately to Goodell that we are not privy to, Sean Payton has said no such thing. He has NOT admitted to a bounty, or "lying" to Goodell, or to even doing anything wrong. Unless I'm mistaken, Payton didn't even admit to pay-for-performance, only Williams did.

He said, quote, I am sorry for what happened and, as head coach, take full responsibility.

If you read it carefully, he only refers to "what happened," which could mean a number of things -- the flawed Bounty investigation itself, the suspensions, the bad publicity for Benson, the "tarnishing of the shield," or the negative outcome of the whole darn thing. It does NOT mean "you caught me," "the NFL's evidence is true" or that he ever admitted to what Goodell said he did, not AT ALL. He only said he was sorry that "what happened" happened.

When I first read it, I immediately took it to mean that Payton was apologizing for the WHOLE MESS, whether innocent or guilty, and was going out of his way with his words to NOT admit guilt. But that it happened on his watch. Admitting responsibility is not the same thing as admitting guilt.

Unless of course he admitted something privately to Goodell that we don't know about, which would be a whole other ball of wax, and I kind of doubt he did since we would have heard about it.

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SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Sources: No settlement before ruling Originally Posted by x626xBlack Its beyond the facts at this point... beyond evidence. Taken at FACE VALUE, if Vilma says "I did not do anything they say I did"... But Sean Payton, Micky Loomis, and Greg Williams have already said "you caught us, sorry".... I have trouble, a lot of trouble, seeing that nothing has happened. No evidence in the courtroom only testimony, if you put those three on the stand to explain what they apologized for and they state they apologized for doing what they shouldn't have, it annihilates Vilmas credibility. Unless he has said or admitted something privately to Goodell that we are not privy to, Sean Payton has said no such thing. He has NOT admitted to a bounty, or "lying" to Goodell, or to even doing anything wrong. Unless I'm mistaken, Payton didn't even admit to pay-for-performance, only Williams did. He said, quote, I am sorry for what happened and, as head coach, take full responsibility. If you read it carefully, he only refers to "what happened," which could mean a number of things -- the flawed Bounty investigation itself, the suspensions, the bad publicity for Benson, the "tarnishing of the shield," or the negative outcome of the whole darn thing. It does NOT mean "you caught me," "the NFL's evidence is true" or that he ever admitted to what Goodell said he did, not AT ALL. He only said he was sorry that "what happened" happened. When I first read it, I immediately took it to mean that Payton was apologizing for the WHOLE MESS, whether innocent or guilty, and was going out of his way with his words to NOT admit guilt. But that it happened on his watch. Admitting responsibility is not the same thing as admitting guilt. Unless of course he admitted something privately to Goodell that we don't know about, which would be a whole other ball of wax, and I kind of doubt he did since we would have heard about it.

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