In regard to PsychoÃ¢Â€Â™s view on Aaron Brooks...

WhoDat · 07-09-2004, 03:27 PM

Some of the \"idiots\" have had great football careers and are in the hall of fame. And some of the \"brilliant\" players failed miserably. Which proves the wonderlic isn\'t worth the paper it\'s written on when it comes to football.

Brooks scored a 17 on the wonderlic, but what does it prove when it comes to football? Does it prove he can\'t read defenses? Does it prove he can\'t make quick decisions? Does it prove he\'s not a leader?

Well, Dan Marino scored lower than Brooks, so the wonderlic can\'t tell us any of that. So, what\'s the use of the wonderlic?

If I follow your logic that the wonderlic is a TRUE measure of intelligence then I have to come to one of the following conclusions:

A. Intelligence isn\'t important when it comes to playing QB because Dan Marino is one of the greats of all time.

New day, Billy argues something new.

Bill - I agree 100% with those statements. In fact, I made them before you did. Go look at the top of the thread. I specifically said that AB having a baboon\'s intellect does NOT preclude him from being a successful NFL QB. I used Marino to prove that point. I never suggested at any point in this debate that AB A) was a bad QB, B) not capable of being the starter, or C) not capable of making the Pro Bowl. In fact, I said he could do ALL of those things well. I wasn\'t arguing about AB\'s game, I was discussing his level of intelligence - which, we have since decided is pretty low.

From my first post that started all of this:

Anyway, according to the Wonderlic Brooks is below the AVERAGE level of intelligence for ALL NFL players. You think it takes more intelligence to be a QB or a DT? Guys, the fact that he isn\'t bright won\'t stop him from being a good QB...

Wow, all of this could have been avoided. Read first, reply second. :P

GumboBC · 07-09-2004, 03:34 PM

WhoDat --

I knew if we kept going I would paint you in a corner.. :P

Just going by what you have said, here\'s what we got.

1. The wonderlic tells us if a QB is dumb.
2. Brooks scored 17 on the wonderlic, so he is dumb.
3. Dan Marino scored lower than 17, so he is dumber than Brooks.

Conclusion: Dan Marino was great at reading defenses; made quick decisions; and was a great leader. And he was dumb.

Which means intelligence isn\'t important at the QB position since Dan Marino was one of the greatest QB\'s of all times. Do you agree?

[Edited on 9/7/2004 by GumboBC]

[Edited on 9/7/2004 by GumboBC]

WhoDat · 07-09-2004, 03:49 PM

Paint me into a corner?!?!?! LMAO.

Billy - I said that not being intelligent does NOT mean a QB wil be bad or unsuccessful earlier in THIS THREAD. I\'ve said it about Brooks for WEEKS now. You think you just exposed me? LMAO!!!!

All that said, YES, intelligence IS important for a QB IN GENERAL. Some players have been able to overcome it in the past due to the right overly-compensated mix of ability in other areas. However, YES, no one HOPES for a dumb QB.

Please, please, please also read this:

I set out to prove that Brooks was not intelligent, and I INITIALLY stated that his lack of intelligence did not stop him from being a good QB. I said that in the FIRST post in this debate. You have argued that BROOKS IS NOT DUMB. You DID NOT argue that Brooks was a good QB. You argued specifically ABOUT HIS INTELLIGENCE.

You just said, \"Brooks scored 17 on the wonderlic, so he is dumb. \"

Can you not see how you\'ve lost? C\'mon. Even you gotta see that.

GumboBC · 07-09-2004, 03:53 PM

Now, I\'m going to have to start questioning your intelligence, WhoDat.

Posted by WhoDat
You just said, \"Brooks scored 17 on the wonderlic, so he is dumb. \"

Can you not see how you\'ve lost? C\'mon. Even you gotta see that

I said no such thing. Look at my post again...and look below...

Posted by GumboBC
Just going by what you have said, here\'s what we got.

PLEASE answer this for me... How did Dan Marino overcome being stupid??

JOESAM2002 · 07-10-2004, 11:21 AM

Ok boy\'s I haven\'t had to do this in quite some time. Please don\'t use phallic and suck in the same post. God knows you might get my heart racing, and we all know i\'m not ready for that yet.

BnB it sure is good to see you haven\'t lost your sense of wit and mastery of thought yet. Now if we can get Billy and WhoDat to decide if AB is really dumber than a box of rocks, we\'ll all be ready for the start of the season. Personally,I think it\'s an insult to the box of rocks. One rock, maybe, but a whole box?

For my question of the 2 of you is: Is the ocean really blue?

[Edited on 10/7/2004 by JOESAM2002]

WhoDat · 07-10-2004, 02:45 PM

It\'s one of those questions that we may just never be able to answer. The ocean is blue b/c it reflects the sky, the sky is blue b/c it reflects the ocean. It\'s a never-ending cycle. What cam first, the ocean or the sky?

Billy is only part right about sky. The sun does contain 100% color, and as I\'m sure he knows, 100% saturation of color is....??? White. No it\'s not black, black is in fact 100% devoid of color. So, sunlight is actually white. The rays are reflected in the atmosphere causing a change in color. That\'s why you get these great reds and purples and oranges when the sun sets and rse, b/c the angle creates the greastest \"bend\" in the reflection.

Based on his comments here, I wouldn\'t be at all surprised if Billy said that the sky appeared orange to him!! :P

GumboBC · 07-10-2004, 03:56 PM

For my question of the 2 of you is: Is the ocean really blue?

Well, it ain\'t blue here in Biloxi. :P Unless you go out on the other side of the islands. Kinda like where you\'re at Joe. I used to live over that way. The ex still does...

I\'ve been to all the beaches over your way. Crystal, McFadden, etc... Except I never got to go to the nude beach. :P

WhoDat is correct about light being bent. Or filtered. Since the atmosphere is only seperating colors and not destroying them, then the other colors are being reflected somewhere. In Califonia the sky may be blue. In Louisiana it may be red and in Florida it may be green. Afterall energy cannot be destroyed. Just converted from one form to another.

[Edited on 10/7/2004 by GumboBC]

26DEUCE26 · 07-10-2004, 11:19 PM

Man, I feel like I\'m watching a tennis match the way WhoDat & GumboBC go back and forth with each other. Keep up the good posts.

WhoDat · 07-11-2004, 10:16 AM

ADVANTAGE: WhoDat.

GumboBC · 07-11-2004, 10:38 AM

ADVANTAGE: WhoDat.

Fault!!

WhoDat, you just don\'t understand the culture Brooks comes from.

See, you might hear Brooks say: \" fo shizzle my nizzle\"

You don\'t understand and you think Brooks is dumb, but what it means is:

\"I concur whole-heartedly, my African-American brother\" :P

So, when Brooks says: \"I owned \'em with my eyes.\" You think he\'s stupid.

But, what he means is: \" The receivers were open all day, but they kept dropping the damn ball.\" :P

Game, set, match~~

[Edited on 11/7/2004 by GumboBC]

07-09-2004, 03:27 PM	#51
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	In regard to PsychoÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã¢Â„Â¢s view on Aaron Brooks... Some of the \"idiots\" have had great football careers and are in the hall of fame. And some of the \"brilliant\" players failed miserably. Which proves the wonderlic isn\'t worth the paper it\'s written on when it comes to football. Brooks scored a 17 on the wonderlic, but what does it prove when it comes to football? Does it prove he can\'t read defenses? Does it prove he can\'t make quick decisions? Does it prove he\'s not a leader? Well, Dan Marino scored lower than Brooks, so the wonderlic can\'t tell us any of that. So, what\'s the use of the wonderlic? If I follow your logic that the wonderlic is a TRUE measure of intelligence then I have to come to one of the following conclusions: A. Intelligence isn\'t important when it comes to playing QB because Dan Marino is one of the greats of all time. New day, Billy argues something new. Bill - I agree 100% with those statements. In fact, I made them before you did. Go look at the top of the thread. I specifically said that AB having a baboon\'s intellect does NOT preclude him from being a successful NFL QB. I used Marino to prove that point. I never suggested at any point in this debate that AB A) was a bad QB, B) not capable of being the starter, or C) not capable of making the Pro Bowl. In fact, I said he could do ALL of those things well. I wasn\'t arguing about AB\'s game, I was discussing his level of intelligence - which, we have since decided is pretty low. From my first post that started all of this: Anyway, according to the Wonderlic Brooks is below the AVERAGE level of intelligence for ALL NFL players. You think it takes more intelligence to be a QB or a DT? Guys, the fact that he isn\'t bright won\'t stop him from being a good QB... Wow, all of this could have been avoided. Read first, reply second. :P
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07-09-2004, 03:34 PM	#52
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	In regard to PsychoÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã¢Â„Â¢s view on Aaron Brooks... WhoDat -- I knew if we kept going I would paint you in a corner.. :P Just going by what you have said, here\'s what we got. 1. The wonderlic tells us if a QB is dumb. 2. Brooks scored 17 on the wonderlic, so he is dumb. 3. Dan Marino scored lower than 17, so he is dumber than Brooks. Conclusion: Dan Marino was great at reading defenses; made quick decisions; and was a great leader. And he was dumb. Which means intelligence isn\'t important at the QB position since Dan Marino was one of the greatest QB\'s of all times. Do you agree? [Edited on 9/7/2004 by GumboBC] [Edited on 9/7/2004 by GumboBC]
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07-09-2004, 03:49 PM	#53
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	In regard to PsychoÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã¢Â„Â¢s view on Aaron Brooks... Paint me into a corner?!?!?! LMAO. Billy - I said that not being intelligent does NOT mean a QB wil be bad or unsuccessful earlier in THIS THREAD. I\'ve said it about Brooks for WEEKS now. You think you just exposed me? LMAO!!!! All that said, YES, intelligence IS important for a QB IN GENERAL. Some players have been able to overcome it in the past due to the right overly-compensated mix of ability in other areas. However, YES, no one HOPES for a dumb QB. Please, please, please also read this: I set out to prove that Brooks was not intelligent, and I INITIALLY stated that his lack of intelligence did not stop him from being a good QB. I said that in the FIRST post in this debate. You have argued that BROOKS IS NOT DUMB. You DID NOT argue that Brooks was a good QB. You argued specifically ABOUT HIS INTELLIGENCE. You just said, \"Brooks scored 17 on the wonderlic, so he is dumb. \" Can you not see how you\'ve lost? C\'mon. Even you gotta see that.
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	\"Excuses, excuses, excuses. ThatÃ¢Â€Â™s all anyone ever makes for the New Orleans SaintsÃ¢Â€Â™ organization.\" - Eric Narcisse \"Being a Saints fan is almost like being addicted to crack,\" he said.[i]\"You know you should stop, but you just can\'t.\"

07-09-2004, 03:53 PM	#54
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	In regard to PsychoÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã¢Â„Â¢s view on Aaron Brooks... Now, I\'m going to have to start questioning your intelligence, WhoDat. Posted by WhoDat You just said, \"Brooks scored 17 on the wonderlic, so he is dumb. \" Can you not see how you\'ve lost? C\'mon. Even you gotta see that I said no such thing. Look at my post again...and look below... Posted by GumboBC Just going by what you have said, here\'s what we got. PLEASE answer this for me... How did Dan Marino overcome being stupid??
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07-10-2004, 11:21 AM	#55
JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	In regard to PsychoÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã¢Â„Â¢s view on Aaron Brooks... Ok boy\'s I haven\'t had to do this in quite some time. Please don\'t use phallic and suck in the same post. God knows you might get my heart racing, and we all know i\'m not ready for that yet. BnB it sure is good to see you haven\'t lost your sense of wit and mastery of thought yet. Now if we can get Billy and WhoDat to decide if AB is really dumber than a box of rocks, we\'ll all be ready for the start of the season. Personally,I think it\'s an insult to the box of rocks. One rock, maybe, but a whole box? For my question of the 2 of you is: Is the ocean really blue? [Edited on 10/7/2004 by JOESAM2002]
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07-10-2004, 02:45 PM	#56
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	In regard to PsychoÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã¢Â„Â¢s view on Aaron Brooks... It\'s one of those questions that we may just never be able to answer. The ocean is blue b/c it reflects the sky, the sky is blue b/c it reflects the ocean. It\'s a never-ending cycle. What cam first, the ocean or the sky? Billy is only part right about sky. The sun does contain 100% color, and as I\'m sure he knows, 100% saturation of color is....??? White. No it\'s not black, black is in fact 100% devoid of color. So, sunlight is actually white. The rays are reflected in the atmosphere causing a change in color. That\'s why you get these great reds and purples and oranges when the sun sets and rse, b/c the angle creates the greastest \"bend\" in the reflection. Based on his comments here, I wouldn\'t be at all surprised if Billy said that the sky appeared orange to him!! :P
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	\"Excuses, excuses, excuses. ThatÃ¢Â€Â™s all anyone ever makes for the New Orleans SaintsÃ¢Â€Â™ organization.\" - Eric Narcisse \"Being a Saints fan is almost like being addicted to crack,\" he said.[i]\"You know you should stop, but you just can\'t.\"

07-10-2004, 03:56 PM	#57
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	In regard to PsychoÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã¢Â„Â¢s view on Aaron Brooks... For my question of the 2 of you is: Is the ocean really blue? Well, it ain\'t blue here in Biloxi. :P Unless you go out on the other side of the islands. Kinda like where you\'re at Joe. I used to live over that way. The ex still does... I\'ve been to all the beaches over your way. Crystal, McFadden, etc... Except I never got to go to the nude beach. :P WhoDat is correct about light being bent. Or filtered. Since the atmosphere is only seperating colors and not destroying them, then the other colors are being reflected somewhere. In Califonia the sky may be blue. In Louisiana it may be red and in Florida it may be green. Afterall energy cannot be destroyed. Just converted from one form to another. [Edited on 10/7/2004 by GumboBC]
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07-10-2004, 11:19 PM	#58
26DEUCE26 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 116	In regard to PsychoÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã¢Â„Â¢s view on Aaron Brooks... Man, I feel like I\'m watching a tennis match the way WhoDat & GumboBC go back and forth with each other. Keep up the good posts.
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07-11-2004, 10:16 AM	#59
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07-11-2004, 10:38 AM	#60
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	In regard to PsychoÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã¢Â„Â¢s view on Aaron Brooks... ADVANTAGE: WhoDat. Fault!! WhoDat, you just don\'t understand the culture Brooks comes from. See, you might hear Brooks say: \" fo shizzle my nizzle\" You don\'t understand and you think Brooks is dumb, but what it means is: \"I concur whole-heartedly, my African-American brother\" :P So, when Brooks says: \"I owned \'em with my eyes.\" You think he\'s stupid. But, what he means is: \" The receivers were open all day, but they kept dropping the damn ball.\" :P Game, set, match~~ [Edited on 11/7/2004 by GumboBC]
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