New Orleans Saints injury update: Chris Chamberlain, Andy Tanner and Isa Abdul-Quddus hurt

blackangold · 08-18-2012, 09:53 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

Not necessarily; I think Cassillas has a chance at taking his spot... He has been playing really well...

Casillas can't play SAM but Herring has been looking good at SAM. There is some hope for him to grab the start over Shanle but not much. One thing that Shanle does well is stay healthy, usually because he's nowhere near the play. Not saying I wish injury on anyone, because I never would, but would anyone be upset or disappointed if Shanle got injured? (lol)

|Mitch| · 08-18-2012, 10:11 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Casillas can't play SAM but Herring has been looking good at SAM. There is some hope for him to grab the start over Shanle but not much. One thing that Shanle does well is stay healthy, usually because he's nowhere near the play. Not saying I wish injury on anyone, because I never would, but would anyone be upset or disappointed if Shanle got injured? (lol)

Hawthorne has the SAM locked up...

blackangold · 08-19-2012, 12:17 AM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

Hawthorne has the SAM locked up...

Hawthorne plays WILL, Shanle starts at SAM with Herring as the back up. Casillas is in a battle with Hawthorne.

Originally Posted by The Dude

No, because if he is starting that means there is nobody better behind him to take his place. He might be the smartest kid in the retard class type of thing.

According to scouting reports done by PFF Shanle has been one of the worst starting LBs over the last 4 years. We have had people like Humber, Casillas and Dun-Bar who all have graded out better then him at every aspect of the game.

http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog...les-nfc-south/

The Dude · 08-18-2012, 11:00 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Casillas can't play SAM but Herring has been looking good at SAM. There is some hope for him to grab the start over Shanle but not much. One thing that Shanle does well is stay healthy, usually because he's nowhere near the play. Not saying I wish injury on anyone, because I never would, but would anyone be upset or disappointed if Shanle got injured? (lol)

No, because if he is starting that means there is nobody better behind him to take his place. He might be the smartest kid in the retard class type of thing.

4thqtrsaint · 08-18-2012, 06:14 PM

We overlooked them... Plain and simple.

|Mitch| · 08-18-2012, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by 4thqtrsaint

We overlooked them... Plain and simple.

What does that have to do with this injury thread?

burningmetal · 08-19-2012, 05:16 AM

I'm not as disappointed as some people who seem to have believed Chris was going to be a starter, but it does suck for overall depth, and obviously you hate for a guy to lose a season... especially in a meaningless game.

Casillas has been enigmatic, but I think he was going to be, and now most certainly will be the other starter, along with Lofton and Hawthorne. I really thought Martez was going to challenge for a starting spot at outside LB until they moved him to DE. Chamberlain would have been quality depth.

Danno · 08-19-2012, 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

I'm not as disappointed as some people who seem to have believed Chris was going to be a starter, but it does suck for overall depth, and obviously you hate for a guy to lose a season... especially in a meaningless game.

Casillas has been enigmatic, but I think he was going to be, and now most certainly will be the other starter, along with Lofton and Hawthorne. I really thought Martez was going to challenge for a starting spot at outside LB until they moved him to DE. Chamberlain would have been quality depth.

I think Chamerlain was simply a Shanle clone, which isn't all bad.

Hawthorne is the one I have high hopes for. And of course Vilma getting his suspension overturned.

Ideally, my dream lineup at LB is...
Lofton - MLB
Hawthorne - SLB
Vilma - WLB

With Vilma suspended, its...
Lofton - MLB
Hawthorne - SLB
Casillas - WLB If he can stay healthy.

burningmetal · 08-19-2012, 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I think Chamerlain was simply a Shanle clone, which isn't all bad.

Hawthorne is the one I have high hopes for. And of course Vilma getting his suspension overturned.

Ideally, my dream lineup at LB is...
Lofton - MLB
Hawthorne - SLB
Vilma - WLB

With Vilma suspended, its...
Lofton - MLB
Hawthorne - SLB
Casillas - WLB If he can stay healthy.

I agree. I viewed Chamberlain very much as another Shanle type who doesn't make big plays, but he always makes the play in front of him. I'm not crazy about Vilma at this stage of his career but if he is healthy and were not suspended I would feel more comfortable with him than Casillas. But Casillas has dynamic abilities, if he can put it all together, so here's hoping for the best. Shanle will probably see a lot of playing time even if he's not starting.

jeanpierre · 08-19-2012, 07:19 AM

I for one am looking forward to seeing Shanle, Harper, Jenkins, and the front four play under Spagnulolo...

Then you'll know if it was scheme (Williams) or lack of talent...

Shanle has been no pro-bowler, but I think he takes way too much heat for the poor transition play of the safeties...

08-18-2012, 09:53 PM	#1
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: New Orleans Saints injury update: Chris Chamberlain, Andy Tanner and Isa Abdul-Quddus hurt Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| Not necessarily; I think Cassillas has a chance at taking his spot... He has been playing really well... Casillas can't play SAM but Herring has been looking good at SAM. There is some hope for him to grab the start over Shanle but not much. One thing that Shanle does well is stay healthy, usually because he's nowhere near the play. Not saying I wish injury on anyone, because I never would, but would anyone be upset or disappointed if Shanle got injured? (lol)

08-18-2012, 10:11 PM	#2
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: New Orleans Saints injury update: Chris Chamberlain, Andy Tanner and Isa Abdul-Quddus hurt Originally Posted by blackangold Casillas can't play SAM but Herring has been looking good at SAM. There is some hope for him to grab the start over Shanle but not much. One thing that Shanle does well is stay healthy, usually because he's nowhere near the play. Not saying I wish injury on anyone, because I never would, but would anyone be upset or disappointed if Shanle got injured? (lol) Hawthorne has the SAM locked up... halloween 65 likes this.

08-19-2012, 12:17 AM	#3
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: New Orleans Saints injury update: Chris Chamberlain, Andy Tanner and Isa Abdul-Quddus hurt Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| Hawthorne has the SAM locked up... Hawthorne plays WILL, Shanle starts at SAM with Herring as the back up. Casillas is in a battle with Hawthorne. Originally Posted by The Dude No, because if he is starting that means there is nobody better behind him to take his place. He might be the smartest kid in the retard class type of thing. According to scouting reports done by PFF Shanle has been one of the worst starting LBs over the last 4 years. We have had people like Humber, Casillas and Dun-Bar who all have graded out better then him at every aspect of the game. http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog...les-nfc-south/

08-18-2012, 11:00 PM	#4
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,060	Re: New Orleans Saints injury update: Chris Chamberlain, Andy Tanner and Isa Abdul-Quddus hurt Originally Posted by blackangold Casillas can't play SAM but Herring has been looking good at SAM. There is some hope for him to grab the start over Shanle but not much. One thing that Shanle does well is stay healthy, usually because he's nowhere near the play. Not saying I wish injury on anyone, because I never would, but would anyone be upset or disappointed if Shanle got injured? (lol) No, because if he is starting that means there is nobody better behind him to take his place. He might be the smartest kid in the retard class type of thing.
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08-18-2012, 06:27 PM	#6
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: New Orleans Saints injury update: Chris Chamberlain, Andy Tanner and Isa Abdul-Quddus hurt Originally Posted by 4thqtrsaint We overlooked them... Plain and simple. What does that have to do with this injury thread?

08-19-2012, 05:16 AM	#7
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: New Orleans Saints injury update: Chris Chamberlain, Andy Tanner and Isa Abdul-Quddus hurt I'm not as disappointed as some people who seem to have believed Chris was going to be a starter, but it does suck for overall depth, and obviously you hate for a guy to lose a season... especially in a meaningless game. Casillas has been enigmatic, but I think he was going to be, and now most certainly will be the other starter, along with Lofton and Hawthorne. I really thought Martez was going to challenge for a starting spot at outside LB until they moved him to DE. Chamberlain would have been quality depth. Danno likes this.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: New Orleans Saints injury update: Chris Chamberlain, Andy Tanner and Isa Abdul-Quddus hurt Originally Posted by burningmetal I'm not as disappointed as some people who seem to have believed Chris was going to be a starter, but it does suck for overall depth, and obviously you hate for a guy to lose a season... especially in a meaningless game. Casillas has been enigmatic, but I think he was going to be, and now most certainly will be the other starter, along with Lofton and Hawthorne. I really thought Martez was going to challenge for a starting spot at outside LB until they moved him to DE. Chamberlain would have been quality depth. I think Chamerlain was simply a Shanle clone, which isn't all bad. Hawthorne is the one I have high hopes for. And of course Vilma getting his suspension overturned. Ideally, my dream lineup at LB is... Lofton - MLB Hawthorne - SLB Vilma - WLB With Vilma suspended, its... Lofton - MLB Hawthorne - SLB Casillas - WLB If he can stay healthy.

08-19-2012, 03:53 PM	#9
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: New Orleans Saints injury update: Chris Chamberlain, Andy Tanner and Isa Abdul-Quddus hurt Originally Posted by Danno I think Chamerlain was simply a Shanle clone, which isn't all bad. Hawthorne is the one I have high hopes for. And of course Vilma getting his suspension overturned. Ideally, my dream lineup at LB is... Lofton - MLB Hawthorne - SLB Vilma - WLB With Vilma suspended, its... Lofton - MLB Hawthorne - SLB Casillas - WLB If he can stay healthy. I agree. I viewed Chamberlain very much as another Shanle type who doesn't make big plays, but he always makes the play in front of him. I'm not crazy about Vilma at this stage of his career but if he is healthy and were not suspended I would feel more comfortable with him than Casillas. But Casillas has dynamic abilities, if he can put it all together, so here's hoping for the best. Shanle will probably see a lot of playing time even if he's not starting.

08-19-2012, 07:19 AM	#10
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: New Orleans Saints injury update: Chris Chamberlain, Andy Tanner and Isa Abdul-Quddus hurt I for one am looking forward to seeing Shanle, Harper, Jenkins, and the front four play under Spagnulolo... Then you'll know if it was scheme (Williams) or lack of talent... Shanle has been no pro-bowler, but I think he takes way too much heat for the poor transition play of the safeties...

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