It could be worse but...

Boutte · 08-26-2012, 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by GoofySaint

Excuse me sir but did you watch the whole game or did you just watch the first half(which included a ridiculous amount of calls by the refs)?

Did you happen to forget the fact that we had 3 times more sacks than the texans did? Or the fact that we had more turnovers? Or the fact that our defense was capable of returning a fumble?

And this isn't some Patriots or packers defense. This is perhaps the 2nd best defense in the league and our defense just outdid them in sacks and turnovers and we're still whining about the defense(and this was WITHOUT Lofton)?

"learn the the new DC's defense and to get used to their new team mates"

Oh that's BS. He's already played 3 preseason games and done training camp so I'm sure he knows who his teammates are. He's only been with them for the LAST 2 MONTHS. I'm sure 3 games is enough to know what type he's in. If it was one game, I'd be worried.

If Curtis Lofton was able to play 25 snaps then it's not even worthy of being called an "injury".

"If we can go 4-4 in the first half of the season somebody in this organization is a genius."

Have you seen our schedule the first 8 games?

Redskins
@panthers
Chiefs
@Packers
Chargers
@Bucs
@Broncos
Eagles

Seeing as we always win at home in the regular season, the only game I have a ? for is the packers game and maybe the broncos but Manning is still a ? to me.

"Most of us remain optimistic about the upcoming season despite all of these things. I'm in that number."

I'm not so sure if you're that optimistic.
Right before you say that, you then say 10 GAMES is an amazing accomplishment even though we just went 13-3 last year and we were the 1# offense last year(and our defense was WAAYYYYYY worse last year).

Hostile much?

"This guy" happens to think that 10-6 given everything that's been thrown at us will be a great accomplishment. He also thinks that you're greatly underestimating the value of Sean Payton's leadership on the sidelines and in preparation during the week.

Am I predicting 10-6? No I'm not predicting anything at this point. I don't think it's ridiculous to think that we might need a few games to hit our stride especially given the injury situation and the fact that we play in probably the toughest division in the league.

GoofySaint · 08-26-2012, 10:39 PM

Originally Posted by Boutte

Hostile much?

"This guy" happens to think that 10-6 given everything that's been thrown at us will be a great accomplishment. He also thinks that you're greatly underestimating the value of Sean Payton's leadership on the sidelines and in preparation during the week.

Am I predicting 10-6? No I'm not predicting anything at this point. I don't think it's ridiculous to think that we might need a few games to hit our stride especially given the injury situation and the fact that we play in probably the toughest division in the league.

I don't see how its hostile. I say "this guy" to everybody I don't know. If I offended I apologize but I still don't get it.

Sean Payton had leadership but why must we assume he was the ONLY guy with leadership skills? Drew Brees? Loftons eagerness and enjoyment playing in New Orleans has shown that he probably can be a leader.

What's been thrown at us?

We lost a head coach whose system has made it capable for his loss to mean nothing. We still have a Qb whose leadership has allowed him to be a coach on the field.
If Jim Caldwell can sit on the sidelines doing nothing while Manning wins a super bowl. Why can't Brees?

We lost a subpar defensive captain who was out of his prime and replaced him with a MUCH better player.

We lost a defensive coordinator who was the reason we couldn't win last year. Now our defense is better without him. If anything, this suspension made us better.

We have 2 interim coaches which(because of paytons system) are gonna be able to keep in snyc so that nothing changes as coaches changes.

I don't see how any of this brings us from 13-3 to 10-6.

"and the fact that we play in probably the toughest division in the league."

I giggled a bit when you said that. Really man?

NFC EAST?
NFC NORTH?
AFC NORTH?

We have a Bucs team that's rebuilding.
We have a panthers team who has a very cocky QB who WILL throw INT.
And we have an inconsistent falcons team(that just lost one of their best defensive players in LOFTON who we got) that has an inconsistent QB.

So the bucs have 2 good preseason games and suddenly they're contenders for the division?

"injury situation"

So Loftons legs a little sprained and suddenly 10-6 seems likely? Did we forget that he played on it for 25 snaps? Or that the seasons is still 2 weeks away? We hear a bit about how Darren Sproles is a little sore and suddenly "THE SEASONS OVER"!!

rdanderson91 · 08-26-2012, 01:05 PM

I'm feelin good about our defensive backfield. Andre Johnson was forced to make some great catches and i thought overall we covered pretty well. There were a few mistakes obviously but that's why we have preseason. Cameron Jordan, akiem Hicks, Malcolm jenkins, Johnny Patrick impressed me the most last night. I thought they played their @$$es off. Can't wait for the reg season. 14 days!!

rdanderson91 · 08-26-2012, 01:08 PM

Oh and JUN-YAH!! He played well too

CheramieIII · 08-26-2012, 01:25 PM

I think we end up at 6-2 after the first 8 games. Losses to Carolina at Carolina and Green Bay at Green Bay. I only give us the edge against Philly because we're at home and Vick is gonna get hurt before then. If we can go 4-4 the rest of the way which we will the playoffs should be in our future at least as a wild card. Once you get there it's a whole new season and we can beat anyone.

TheOak · 08-26-2012, 01:45 PM

I do not see us dropping a Carolina game...

Euphoria · 08-26-2012, 04:21 PM

you also have to give the D some time to develop and implement everything that needs to...

You don't build a unit over night. You don't get all the pieces you want in one season.

4thqtrsaint · 08-26-2012, 04:36 PM

Hey guys... Um... We're on the same team right? Calm down.

FinSaint · 08-26-2012, 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by 4thqtrsaint

Hey guys... Um... We're on the same team right? Calm down.

Yep, but that doesn't mean that we can't disagree with one another about all things concerned with the Saints... even very heatedly at times.

These boards would be kind of boring if we all agreed on everything and just echoed what the initial poster has stated in each thread, so I personally welcome disagreement and debate, because here it is most of the time very civil.

poydras · 08-26-2012, 04:48 PM

That hurricane has taken a bead on us. It just got worse.

08-26-2012, 08:19 PM	#1
Boutte Site Donor Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belle Chasse Posts: 1,701	Re: It could be worse but... Originally Posted by GoofySaint Excuse me sir but did you watch the whole game or did you just watch the first half(which included a ridiculous amount of calls by the refs)? Did you happen to forget the fact that we had 3 times more sacks than the texans did? Or the fact that we had more turnovers? Or the fact that our defense was capable of returning a fumble? And this isn't some Patriots or packers defense. This is perhaps the 2nd best defense in the league and our defense just outdid them in sacks and turnovers and we're still whining about the defense(and this was WITHOUT Lofton)? "learn the the new DC's defense and to get used to their new team mates" Oh that's BS. He's already played 3 preseason games and done training camp so I'm sure he knows who his teammates are. He's only been with them for the LAST 2 MONTHS. I'm sure 3 games is enough to know what type he's in. If it was one game, I'd be worried. If Curtis Lofton was able to play 25 snaps then it's not even worthy of being called an "injury". "If we can go 4-4 in the first half of the season somebody in this organization is a genius." Have you seen our schedule the first 8 games? Redskins @panthers Chiefs @Packers Chargers @Bucs @Broncos Eagles Seeing as we always win at home in the regular season, the only game I have a ? for is the packers game and maybe the broncos but Manning is still a ? to me. "Most of us remain optimistic about the upcoming season despite all of these things. I'm in that number." I'm not so sure if you're that optimistic. Right before you say that, you then say 10 GAMES is an amazing accomplishment even though we just went 13-3 last year and we were the 1# offense last year(and our defense was WAAYYYYYY worse last year). Hostile much? "This guy" happens to think that 10-6 given everything that's been thrown at us will be a great accomplishment. He also thinks that you're greatly underestimating the value of Sean Payton's leadership on the sidelines and in preparation during the week. Am I predicting 10-6? No I'm not predicting anything at this point. I don't think it's ridiculous to think that we might need a few games to hit our stride especially given the injury situation and the fact that we play in probably the toughest division in the league. The Dude and Utah_Saint like this.

08-26-2012, 10:39 PM	#2
GoofySaint 100th Post Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Philipsburg, PA Posts: 161	Re: It could be worse but... Originally Posted by Boutte Hostile much? "This guy" happens to think that 10-6 given everything that's been thrown at us will be a great accomplishment. He also thinks that you're greatly underestimating the value of Sean Payton's leadership on the sidelines and in preparation during the week. Am I predicting 10-6? No I'm not predicting anything at this point. I don't think it's ridiculous to think that we might need a few games to hit our stride especially given the injury situation and the fact that we play in probably the toughest division in the league. I don't see how its hostile. I say "this guy" to everybody I don't know. If I offended I apologize but I still don't get it. Sean Payton had leadership but why must we assume he was the ONLY guy with leadership skills? Drew Brees? Loftons eagerness and enjoyment playing in New Orleans has shown that he probably can be a leader. What's been thrown at us? We lost a head coach whose system has made it capable for his loss to mean nothing. We still have a Qb whose leadership has allowed him to be a coach on the field. If Jim Caldwell can sit on the sidelines doing nothing while Manning wins a super bowl. Why can't Brees? We lost a subpar defensive captain who was out of his prime and replaced him with a MUCH better player. We lost a defensive coordinator who was the reason we couldn't win last year. Now our defense is better without him. If anything, this suspension made us better. We have 2 interim coaches which(because of paytons system) are gonna be able to keep in snyc so that nothing changes as coaches changes. I don't see how any of this brings us from 13-3 to 10-6. "and the fact that we play in probably the toughest division in the league." I giggled a bit when you said that. Really man? NFC EAST? NFC NORTH? AFC NORTH? We have a Bucs team that's rebuilding. We have a panthers team who has a very cocky QB who WILL throw INT. And we have an inconsistent falcons team(that just lost one of their best defensive players in LOFTON who we got) that has an inconsistent QB. So the bucs have 2 good preseason games and suddenly they're contenders for the division? "injury situation" So Loftons legs a little sprained and suddenly 10-6 seems likely? Did we forget that he played on it for 25 snaps? Or that the seasons is still 2 weeks away? We hear a bit about how Darren Sproles is a little sore and suddenly "THE SEASONS OVER"!!

08-26-2012, 01:05 PM	#3
rdanderson91 Registered Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: West Monroe Posts: 57	Re: It could be worse but... I'm feelin good about our defensive backfield. Andre Johnson was forced to make some great catches and i thought overall we covered pretty well. There were a few mistakes obviously but that's why we have preseason. Cameron Jordan, akiem Hicks, Malcolm jenkins, Johnny Patrick impressed me the most last night. I thought they played their @$$es off. Can't wait for the reg season. 14 days!!

08-26-2012, 01:08 PM	#4
rdanderson91 Registered Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: West Monroe Posts: 57	Re: It could be worse but... Oh and JUN-YAH!! He played well too

08-26-2012, 01:25 PM	#5
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,497 Blog Entries: 3	Re: It could be worse but... I think we end up at 6-2 after the first 8 games. Losses to Carolina at Carolina and Green Bay at Green Bay. I only give us the edge against Philly because we're at home and Vick is gonna get hurt before then. If we can go 4-4 the rest of the way which we will the playoffs should be in our future at least as a wild card. Once you get there it's a whole new season and we can beat anyone.

08-26-2012, 01:45 PM	#6
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,055	Re: It could be worse but... I do not see us dropping a Carolina game... SmashMouth, the-commish, SloMotion and 1 others like this.

08-26-2012, 04:21 PM	#7
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08-26-2012, 04:36 PM	#8
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08-26-2012, 04:57 PM	#9
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,964	Re: It could be worse but... Originally Posted by 4thqtrsaint Hey guys... Um... We're on the same team right? Calm down. Yep, but that doesn't mean that we can't disagree with one another about all things concerned with the Saints... even very heatedly at times. These boards would be kind of boring if we all agreed on everything and just echoed what the initial poster has stated in each thread, so I personally welcome disagreement and debate, because here it is most of the time very civil. SloMotion likes this.

08-26-2012, 04:48 PM	#10
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