Is it just me......

Vrillon82 · 08-26-2012, 08:01 PM

Originally Posted by SaintsBro

I am under no illusion that we will be battling against the refs this year on every single play, but yes, I saw those "jump balls" with Robinson too and thought the same exact thing about it. I think we are starting to see potential for turnovers and big plays with this defense.

yeah I am thinking the same thing, I am thinking this is why replacement refs were hired.

Not only did they grab officials out of Div 3 and 4 College leagues, they got them out of Lingerie leagues, which ask the question, what is Goodells and the NFLs agenda for that?

RailBoss · 08-26-2012, 08:16 PM

I believe the signing of Steve Spagnoulo will bring a consistent level to the Defense. We probably won't see blitz's every other play anymore and actually have a smart game plan.

hagan714 · 08-26-2012, 08:59 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

And Cameron Jordan got a sack!

I've heard he's made a big improvement from last year

i am expecting a solid year from him. last i swear to god he was told to contain first sack second due to williams blitz happy defense.

spkb25 · 08-26-2012, 09:03 PM

It was so easy to see how our defense took a step back last week. They played worse last week than the 2 weeks prior. Nice to see them get back on track this week, but still room for improvement.

Vrillon82 · 08-26-2012, 09:54 PM

If they had Sproles in this game, he would of rip them apart.

spkb25 · 08-26-2012, 10:43 PM

Originally Posted by Vrillon82

If they had Sproles in this game, he would of rip them apart.

Thank you for reminding me that our offense has been awesome without him. Damn I keep forgetting about him. Jesus we are loaded.

Rugby Saint II · 08-28-2012, 10:38 PM

Nah, it's me too.

lumm0x · 08-28-2012, 11:20 PM

Under Williams we played and were coached based on emotion. Williams could be rattled and react emotionally often leading to trying to hard to manufacture big plays when the safe play was the right one.

I think Spags will be more of a calming effect on the players who will adjust as necessary based on rational analysis of the game and not just react with "throw more blitzers" at things.

Don't get me wrong, I love aggressive defense and I love to see sacks and backfield penetration, but I hate getting burned by huge plays too. Just give me a defense that dictates what the offense can do and imposes their will by playing the right scheme at the right time and I'm a happy man.

mutineer10 · 08-29-2012, 01:34 AM

Although it's certainly not in my nature, I'm cautiously optimistic about our defense. They've shown flashes of real potential this preseason, yet they've shown flashes of the SOS (Same Old Saints) defense, too. This is to be expected with a new system & new DC, though. I'm gonna keep my expectations reasonable & my fingers crossed!

The Dude · 08-29-2012, 01:45 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

I thought we had 3 really blown play, but overall I thought we were a lot more disciplined than we were under GW. Also, once you throw DH, CL, and JG back in the mix I think we improve that much more. I think there were definitely some things to build off of, and like you said= we were in much better positions than in the past.

After the first two times our D was up against the Texans they really seemed to adjust and put things back together which was good to see. A lot of teams under a new defensive coordinator would panic and continue to make the same mistakes. The fact that we were able to turn things around shows how focused and disciplined we are. It looked ugly at times, but overall I was impressed. Loved the sacks, and Robinson REALLY impressed me. He was giving Andre Johnson a real tough time and was running with him step for step. There was a couple times he was in position to take one away from him, but things got tangled up. What excites me the most is that they showed us all this without any LBers.

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Vrillon82 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,127	Re: Is it just me...... Originally Posted by SaintsBro I am under no illusion that we will be battling against the refs this year on every single play, but yes, I saw those "jump balls" with Robinson too and thought the same exact thing about it. I think we are starting to see potential for turnovers and big plays with this defense. yeah I am thinking the same thing, I am thinking this is why replacement refs were hired. Not only did they grab officials out of Div 3 and 4 College leagues, they got them out of Lingerie leagues, which ask the question, what is Goodells and the NFLs agenda for that?
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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Is it just me...... Originally Posted by dizzle88 And Cameron Jordan got a sack! I've heard he's made a big improvement from last year i am expecting a solid year from him. last i swear to god he was told to contain first sack second due to williams blitz happy defense.

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,050	Re: Is it just me...... Originally Posted by spkb25 I thought we had 3 really blown play, but overall I thought we were a lot more disciplined than we were under GW. Also, once you throw DH, CL, and JG back in the mix I think we improve that much more. I think there were definitely some things to build off of, and like you said= we were in much better positions than in the past. After the first two times our D was up against the Texans they really seemed to adjust and put things back together which was good to see. A lot of teams under a new defensive coordinator would panic and continue to make the same mistakes. The fact that we were able to turn things around shows how focused and disciplined we are. It looked ugly at times, but overall I was impressed. Loved the sacks, and Robinson REALLY impressed me. He was giving Andre Johnson a real tough time and was running with him step for step. There was a couple times he was in position to take one away from him, but things got tangled up. What excites me the most is that they showed us all this without any LBers.
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