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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by boonedocksaint yeah, but..... where has colston been all camp and preseason? it doesnt seem to be just this game. i dont know if its a lack of conditioning or what, but, he certainly isn't getting open, either. ...

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Old 09-10-2012, 12:27 AM   #1
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Re: Marques Colston

Originally Posted by boonedocksaint View Post
yeah, but.....

where has colston been all camp and preseason? it doesnt seem to be just this game. i dont know if its a lack of conditioning or what, but, he certainly isn't getting open, either. its not just the dropped balls. kinda hard to catch the ball w/ a defender all over you like flies on....

Colston has never been a speedster who creates separation to the DBs, if that is who you think he is as a receiver, then I don't know who you've been watching all these years he's been with the Saints.

Where he shines is catching in traffic, much like a TE does, but he has a history of having games where nothing seems to latch onto his gloves, and this game just happened to be one of those.

Don't get me wrong, I was cursing his name all through the game - much like in last year's season kickoff against the Packers - but it was apparent from the first offensive play, where Brees threw an incomplete trying to target Colston, that while the throw was off, Colston only made a lackluster effort to reach the ball. From that early point on, it was apparent that he wasn't 100%, and that his leg (ankle or knee, can't remember which it was) injury was still bothering him.

He'll be much better next week, assuming he'll be healthier that is...

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Colston has never been a speedster who creates separation to the DBs, if that is who you think he is as a receiver, then I don't know who you've been watching all these years he's been with the Saints.

Where he shines is catching in traffic, much like a TE does, but he has a history of having games where nothing seems to latch onto his gloves, and this game just happened to be one of those.

Don't get me wrong, I was cursing his name all through the game - much like in last year's season kickoff against the Packers - but it was apparent from the first offensive play, where Brees threw an incomplete trying to target Colston, that while the throw was off, Colston only made a lackluster effort to reach the ball. From that early point on, it was apparent that he wasn't 100%, and that his leg (ankle or knee, can't remember which it was) injury was still bothering him.

He'll be much better next week, assuming he'll be healthier that is...
i know that finsaint. i never said anything about him being fast. he doesnt need to be fast when you can snag balls in traffic, over the middle like he normally can. thats what he does. he goes up and gets balls and lands on his back in the endzone. ive seen it many times. i LOVE the guy. never said i didnt. ive been a huge fan of his since '06. if you read my first post in this thread (ill save you the trouble, page 1), you'll see i said he wasnt catching the balls he NORMALLY catches.

that being said, getting open isnt all about being fast. its about running good routes, having good footwork, and especially in his case, using your body to create space.
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Old 09-10-2012, 01:39 AM   #3
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i know that finsaint. i never said anything about him being fast. he doesnt need to be fast when you can snag balls in traffic, over the middle like he normally can. thats what he does. he goes up and gets balls and lands on his back in the endzone. ive seen it many times. i LOVE the guy. never said i didnt. ive been a huge fan of his since '06. if you read my first post in this thread (ill save you the trouble, page 1), you'll see i said he wasnt catching the balls he NORMALLY catches.

that being said, getting open isnt all about being fast. its about running good routes, having good footwork, and especially in his case, using your body to create space.

OK, it was the "lack of conditioning" part followed directly by the "isn't getting open" part that gave me that impression, but I stand corrected.

Colston has really good hands, and it's mainly his good catching ability and size along with Brees' ability to place the ball where Colston has the advantage over the DBs to catch it that have allowed him to become such a good WR. IMO, he doesn't run particularly good routes for a #1 WR and he doesn't have the speed to create separation through that way either. But he has those great hands...

Colston's catch rate was 75% last season and that's really good when compared to for example Calvin Johnson's 61% and Larry Fitzgerald's 52%. In fact, Colston's 75% catch rate was the best in the league among those who received more than 50 passes during the season. Percy Harvin had 72% for the second highest, and Lance Moore tied with Wes Welker and Jordy Nelson for the third best catch rate with 71%.

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So, I wouldn't give up on him just yet, generally speaking.

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