Hopefully this will calm people down!!

GoofySaint · 09-11-2012, 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by Mikemike

He has the core of a defense that went 13-3.
It's not like these guys have never played the game before...contrary to how they looked the other day.

He has the core of a DEFENSE that was carried by an offense that made them go 13-3 last year.

With the way our defense has ALWAYS played, you'd think they'd never played the game before.

jeanpierre · 09-12-2012, 07:25 AM

Originally Posted by Mikemike

He has the core of a defense that went 13-3.
It's not like these guys have never played the game before...contrary to how they looked the other day.

I think the record was more a credit to just how special the offense was last season...

The defense was pretty bad, at the bottom in pass defense despite the draft picks and the overpay at the Strong Safety position...

jeanpierre · 09-09-2012, 10:56 PM

Different set of personnel; our starting defensive ends are fat, slow...

Giants had leaner, faster defensive ends...

And they always seem to be able to find safeties that could cover...

But even if we did have great safeties right now, we have no pass rush to make it all work together...

Vrillon82 · 09-09-2012, 11:03 PM

But you got to remember we had DE's going after RGIII plenty times in that game.

The problem was he is a scrambling QB, you dont find that every week and to that extent except from maybe 3 guys, whom we face all this season, thats Newton, Vick, RGIII.

Otherwise we would of have 5-6 sacks in that game.

Mardigras9 · 09-10-2012, 11:35 AM

Definitely have to improve in the tackle department. Harper is one of the only players that jumps out who tackled well yesterday.

RailBoss · 09-10-2012, 11:41 AM

Problem was team motivation and on field leadership. Vilma is in street clothes and Kromer looked like he was scared to death standing there.

homerj07 · 09-10-2012, 11:42 AM

I can live with the bad defensive play BUT the "O" looked like crap.

Drew had 2 ints BUT he should have had 3 more. Drew looked uncomfortable the whole game.

The O line sucked, the running game sucked - Colston fumbled away ANOTHER BALL in ANOTHER opening day game.

Colston is becoming a pain in the buttocks. He was good for a few years but at the start of the season(s) he is becoming a major obstruction to a good team

Mardigras9 · 09-10-2012, 02:26 PM

Originally Posted by homerj07

Colston is becoming a pain in the buttocks. He was good for a few years but at the start of the season(s) he is becoming a major obstruction to a good team

Wow, really? He could have just sat this one out, he was questionable heading into the game anyway. Pretty sure he plays hurt because he is a team player. Fumbles happen, it was a good tackle that dislodged that ball and nobody was more upset about it than him. He is a team player and one of the main reasons at WR we have been as good. It's your opinion, but in mine, I keep Colston right where he is.

UK_WhoDat · 09-10-2012, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

Along the way Spagnuolo adopted his formula for success, built on what he calls the Four Pillars: Faith. Character. Core Values. Team First.....[/url]

FCCT for short.

mutineer10 · 09-10-2012, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

Spagnuolo met with the defensive players before Week 3.

“Spags came into the room and said, ‘I want you guys to trust and believe in the system. Believe in the game plan and what I’m telling you to do. I know we haven’t had as much success as we’d like, but the system works. Trust it. I want you to know that I would not trade any player in here for anybody else. I want to do this with you guys.’

Okay, so why didn't he just have this meeting with our defense sometime before the game yesterday?

No need to wait until week 3 this time!

09-11-2012, 06:32 PM	#1
GoofySaint 100th Post Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Philipsburg, PA Posts: 161	Re: Hopefully this will calm people down!! Originally Posted by Mikemike He has the core of a defense that went 13-3. It's not like these guys have never played the game before...contrary to how they looked the other day. He has the core of a DEFENSE that was carried by an offense that made them go 13-3 last year. With the way our defense has ALWAYS played, you'd think they'd never played the game before.

09-12-2012, 07:25 AM	#2
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Hopefully this will calm people down!! Originally Posted by Mikemike He has the core of a defense that went 13-3. It's not like these guys have never played the game before...contrary to how they looked the other day. I think the record was more a credit to just how special the offense was last season... The defense was pretty bad, at the bottom in pass defense despite the draft picks and the overpay at the Strong Safety position... Halo likes this.

09-09-2012, 10:56 PM	#3
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Hopefully this will calm people down!! Different set of personnel; our starting defensive ends are fat, slow... Giants had leaner, faster defensive ends... And they always seem to be able to find safeties that could cover... But even if we did have great safeties right now, we have no pass rush to make it all work together... Mikemike likes this.

09-09-2012, 11:03 PM	#4
Vrillon82 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,127	Re: Hopefully this will calm people down!! But you got to remember we had DE's going after RGIII plenty times in that game. The problem was he is a scrambling QB, you dont find that every week and to that extent except from maybe 3 guys, whom we face all this season, thats Newton, Vick, RGIII. Otherwise we would of have 5-6 sacks in that game.
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09-10-2012, 11:35 AM	#5
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Re: Hopefully this will calm people down!! Definitely have to improve in the tackle department. Harper is one of the only players that jumps out who tackled well yesterday.

09-10-2012, 11:41 AM	#6
RailBoss 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Of The Mason Dixon Line Posts: 7,113	Re: Hopefully this will calm people down!! Problem was team motivation and on field leadership. Vilma is in street clothes and Kromer looked like he was scared to death standing there.

09-10-2012, 11:42 AM	#7
homerj07 In Doh We Trust Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 7,027 Blog Entries: 16	Re: Hopefully this will calm people down!! I can live with the bad defensive play BUT the "O" looked like crap. Drew had 2 ints BUT he should have had 3 more. Drew looked uncomfortable the whole game. The O line sucked, the running game sucked - Colston fumbled away ANOTHER BALL in ANOTHER opening day game. Colston is becoming a pain in the buttocks. He was good for a few years but at the start of the season(s) he is becoming a major obstruction to a good team

09-10-2012, 02:26 PM	#8
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Re: Hopefully this will calm people down!! Originally Posted by homerj07 Colston is becoming a pain in the buttocks. He was good for a few years but at the start of the season(s) he is becoming a major obstruction to a good team Wow, really? He could have just sat this one out, he was questionable heading into the game anyway. Pretty sure he plays hurt because he is a team player. Fumbles happen, it was a good tackle that dislodged that ball and nobody was more upset about it than him. He is a team player and one of the main reasons at WR we have been as good. It's your opinion, but in mine, I keep Colston right where he is. ChrisXVI likes this.

09-10-2012, 02:13 PM	#9
UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 4,000	Re: Hopefully this will calm people down!! Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 Along the way Spagnuolo adopted his formula for success, built on what he calls the Four Pillars: Faith. Character. Core Values. Team First.....[/url] FCCT for short.

09-10-2012, 02:18 PM	#10
mutineer10 Site Donor Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 1,739	Re: Hopefully this will calm people down!! Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 Spagnuolo met with the defensive players before Week 3. “Spags came into the room and said, ‘I want you guys to trust and believe in the system. Believe in the game plan and what I’m telling you to do. I know we haven’t had as much success as we’d like, but the system works. Trust it. I want you to know that I would not trade any player in here for anybody else. I want to do this with you guys.’ Okay, so why didn't he just have this meeting with our defense sometime before the game yesterday? No need to wait until week 3 this time! UK_WhoDat and Mikemike like this.

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