Hopefully this will calm people down!!

saintsfan1976 · 09-11-2012, 09:34 PM

Spags was only 1/3 the problem vs Washington

QBREES9 · 09-11-2012, 09:38 PM

Game one. There's a lot of football left to be played.

Halo · 09-11-2012, 09:46 PM

Originally Posted by Vrillon82

I be glad to get rid of these running QBs we keep running into.

That is one problem we had today.

dude, this guy picked us apart in the passing game, limb from limb. His accuracy was INSANE for a rookie. What running?

TheOak · 09-12-2012, 05:16 AM

Originally Posted by Mikemike

"drowned on GW scheme" ?

The scheme that helped us win 13 straight in '09

The scheme that won the Super Bowl?

The scheme that got us to 13-3 last year?...

Yeah..it was horrible now that I think about it. /sarcasm

We'll see.

I'm not impressed with our defense at all.
They do this for a living. It's not like they never played defense before and suddenly had to learn it all last sunday.
They had training camp and preseason...and look at how they played. That was BAD.

Robinson carelessly trotting off the field is an indication of lack of discipline and situational awareness.
That's on the coach ultimately.

You say "the scheme" like it was ever ranked higher than 2/3s in the NFL and had a good year.

Rankings: Notice our best years are when the Defense sucks?
24th in 2011 <-- got us to 13-3?
4th in 2010
25th in 2009 <---- got us 13 straight and a SB?

Surely when you say "the scheme" you mean our offense? Our success is directly related to the success of our offense. Drink all the kool aid you want... it will not change.

Joker · 09-12-2012, 06:50 AM

Originally Posted by Halo

dude, this guy picked us apart in the passing game, limb from limb. His accuracy was INSANE for a rookie. What running?

Not very hard to throw to receivers that were running wide open with no defender within 2 yards. Let's not say his accuracy was INSANE, but it was good. let's see what he looks like when he starts playing in the redskins division where the defenses are pretty good.
Tim Tebow could have completed the majority of the passes he threw on Sunday.

Saintswrath · 09-12-2012, 07:11 AM

Spags readied his defense for the screens and running game but forgot RG3 has the capability to pass down the field and do it well and when he did he made it look easy which had me seriously concerned for the season, spags seemed to stick to his guns and only adjusted when we fell far behind.

If we don't come out ready for Cam next week I think we can chaulk up the season as the worst offseason and reg season since katrina.

jeanpierre · 09-12-2012, 08:25 AM

Originally Posted by Mikemike

He has the core of a defense that went 13-3.
It's not like these guys have never played the game before...contrary to how they looked the other day.

I think the record was more a credit to just how special the offense was last season...

The defense was pretty bad, at the bottom in pass defense despite the draft picks and the overpay at the Strong Safety position...

saintsfan1976 · 09-12-2012, 08:44 AM

That defense gave up more plays > 20 yards than are allowed to get any sort of "credit".

TheOak · 09-12-2012, 01:35 PM

Greg Williams schemes you say? Greg Williams great defense you say?

Marshawn Lynch I say.....

Halo · 09-12-2012, 02:05 PM

Look, that streak last season had zippo to do with the defense. Our offense was pretty-much flawless at times and we outscored teams most of the time.

Had our offense played up to their abilities last Sunday it would have been a totally different game.

And losing Meachum had zero to do with it because he's not blocking on the line. Drew had defenders in his face and the o-line played poorly at best.

What I saw Sunday didn't have anything to do with Gregg Williams as his defense was weak at best. If anything, our secondary was having a hangover from last season (looking the same or a little worse) where they looked the same and the run defense looked improved.

Again, if anyone is going to point fingers, point them at that o-line that looked sorry and sad last Sunday. Drew throwing that INT didn't help either.

PS where is Jabari Greer? Again, he's out and coverage in the secondary is weak.

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Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,605 Blog Entries: 45	Re: Hopefully this will calm people down!! Originally Posted by Vrillon82 I be glad to get rid of these running QBs we keep running into. That is one problem we had today. dude, this guy picked us apart in the passing game, limb from limb. His accuracy was INSANE for a rookie. What running?

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Hopefully this will calm people down!! Originally Posted by Mikemike "drowned on GW scheme" ? The scheme that helped us win 13 straight in '09 The scheme that won the Super Bowl? The scheme that got us to 13-3 last year?... Yeah..it was horrible now that I think about it. /sarcasm We'll see. I'm not impressed with our defense at all. They do this for a living. It's not like they never played defense before and suddenly had to learn it all last sunday. They had training camp and preseason...and look at how they played. That was BAD. Robinson carelessly trotting off the field is an indication of lack of discipline and situational awareness. That's on the coach ultimately. You say "the scheme" like it was ever ranked higher than 2/3s in the NFL and had a good year. Rankings: Notice our best years are when the Defense sucks? 24th in 2011 <-- got us to 13-3? 4th in 2010 25th in 2009 <---- got us 13 straight and a SB? Surely when you say "the scheme" you mean our offense? Our success is directly related to the success of our offense. Drink all the kool aid you want... it will not change.

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Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,605 Blog Entries: 45	Re: Hopefully this will calm people down!! Look, that streak last season had zippo to do with the defense. Our offense was pretty-much flawless at times and we outscored teams most of the time. Had our offense played up to their abilities last Sunday it would have been a totally different game. And losing Meachum had zero to do with it because he's not blocking on the line. Drew had defenders in his face and the o-line played poorly at best. What I saw Sunday didn't have anything to do with Gregg Williams as his defense was weak at best. If anything, our secondary was having a hangover from last season (looking the same or a little worse) where they looked the same and the run defense looked improved. Again, if anyone is going to point fingers, point them at that o-line that looked sorry and sad last Sunday. Drew throwing that INT didn't help either. PS where is Jabari Greer? Again, he's out and coverage in the secondary is weak.
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