Hopefully this will calm people down!!

Rugby Saint II · 09-10-2012, 02:37 PM

We weren't able to help Spags with the draft this year. Good ol' Rog. screwed us because we didn't worship his loin cloth. Godhell took away any chance that Spags had. We're having to play football while hand cuffed and dragging a dead body behind us on the field. I know we need at least one quality tackle to help Drew but dang, we need someone to get pressure on the QB. That player isn't on the roster yet.

NuNu318 · 09-10-2012, 02:52 PM

I still want to know why the best pass rushing DTs we have (Hicks & Walker) weren't even activated for Sunday's game....I know Hicks is raw but he seemed knowledgable enough to pressure the QB with his pure strength.

TheOak · 09-11-2012, 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by Mikemike

He has the core of a defense that went 13-3.
It's not like these guys have never played the game before...contrary to how they looked the other day.

No but that core has been drowned on GW scheme for the last 3 years.

Learning what to do comes quick, making the new scheme come reactionary takes time.... They don't have time to stop and think which is what they are doing now.

TheOak · 09-12-2012, 04:16 AM

Originally Posted by Mikemike

"drowned on GW scheme" ?

The scheme that helped us win 13 straight in '09

The scheme that won the Super Bowl?

The scheme that got us to 13-3 last year?...

Yeah..it was horrible now that I think about it. /sarcasm

We'll see.

I'm not impressed with our defense at all.
They do this for a living. It's not like they never played defense before and suddenly had to learn it all last sunday.
They had training camp and preseason...and look at how they played. That was BAD.

Robinson carelessly trotting off the field is an indication of lack of discipline and situational awareness.
That's on the coach ultimately.

You say "the scheme" like it was ever ranked higher than 2/3s in the NFL and had a good year.

Rankings: Notice our best years are when the Defense sucks?
24th in 2011 <-- got us to 13-3?
4th in 2010
25th in 2009 <---- got us 13 straight and a SB?

Surely when you say "the scheme" you mean our offense? Our success is directly related to the success of our offense. Drink all the kool aid you want... it will not change.

saintsfan1976 · 09-11-2012, 08:34 PM

Spags was only 1/3 the problem vs Washington

QBREES9 · 09-11-2012, 08:38 PM

Game one. There's a lot of football left to be played.

Saintswrath · 09-12-2012, 06:11 AM

Spags readied his defense for the screens and running game but forgot RG3 has the capability to pass down the field and do it well and when he did he made it look easy which had me seriously concerned for the season, spags seemed to stick to his guns and only adjusted when we fell far behind.

If we don't come out ready for Cam next week I think we can chaulk up the season as the worst offseason and reg season since katrina.

saintsfan1976 · 09-12-2012, 07:44 AM

That defense gave up more plays > 20 yards than are allowed to get any sort of "credit".

TheOak · 09-12-2012, 12:35 PM

Greg Williams schemes you say? Greg Williams great defense you say?

Marshawn Lynch I say.....

Halo · 09-12-2012, 01:05 PM

Look, that streak last season had zippo to do with the defense. Our offense was pretty-much flawless at times and we outscored teams most of the time.

Had our offense played up to their abilities last Sunday it would have been a totally different game.

And losing Meachum had zero to do with it because he's not blocking on the line. Drew had defenders in his face and the o-line played poorly at best.

What I saw Sunday didn't have anything to do with Gregg Williams as his defense was weak at best. If anything, our secondary was having a hangover from last season (looking the same or a little worse) where they looked the same and the run defense looked improved.

Again, if anyone is going to point fingers, point them at that o-line that looked sorry and sad last Sunday. Drew throwing that INT didn't help either.

PS where is Jabari Greer? Again, he's out and coverage in the secondary is weak.

09-10-2012, 02:37 PM	#1
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,250	Re: Hopefully this will calm people down!! We weren't able to help Spags with the draft this year. Good ol' Rog. screwed us because we didn't worship his loin cloth. Godhell took away any chance that Spags had. We're having to play football while hand cuffed and dragging a dead body behind us on the field. I know we need at least one quality tackle to help Drew but dang, we need someone to get pressure on the QB. That player isn't on the roster yet.

09-10-2012, 02:52 PM	#2
NuNu318 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: VA Posts: 465	Re: Hopefully this will calm people down!! I still want to know why the best pass rushing DTs we have (Hicks & Walker) weren't even activated for Sunday's game....I know Hicks is raw but he seemed knowledgable enough to pressure the QB with his pure strength.

09-11-2012, 07:15 PM	#3
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,061	Originally Posted by Mikemike He has the core of a defense that went 13-3. It's not like these guys have never played the game before...contrary to how they looked the other day. No but that core has been drowned on GW scheme for the last 3 years. Learning what to do comes quick, making the new scheme come reactionary takes time.... They don't have time to stop and think which is what they are doing now.

09-12-2012, 04:16 AM	#4
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,061	Re: Hopefully this will calm people down!! Originally Posted by Mikemike "drowned on GW scheme" ? The scheme that helped us win 13 straight in '09 The scheme that won the Super Bowl? The scheme that got us to 13-3 last year?... Yeah..it was horrible now that I think about it. /sarcasm We'll see. I'm not impressed with our defense at all. They do this for a living. It's not like they never played defense before and suddenly had to learn it all last sunday. They had training camp and preseason...and look at how they played. That was BAD. Robinson carelessly trotting off the field is an indication of lack of discipline and situational awareness. That's on the coach ultimately. You say "the scheme" like it was ever ranked higher than 2/3s in the NFL and had a good year. Rankings: Notice our best years are when the Defense sucks? 24th in 2011 <-- got us to 13-3? 4th in 2010 25th in 2009 <---- got us 13 straight and a SB? Surely when you say "the scheme" you mean our offense? Our success is directly related to the success of our offense. Drink all the kool aid you want... it will not change.

09-11-2012, 08:34 PM	#5
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,103 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Hopefully this will calm people down!! Spags was only 1/3 the problem vs Washington

09-11-2012, 08:38 PM	#6
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,990	Re: Hopefully this will calm people down!! Game one. There's a lot of football left to be played.

09-12-2012, 06:11 AM	#7
Saintswrath +Mod Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Between 504 & 813 Posts: 1,776 Blog Entries: 4	Re: Hopefully this will calm people down!! Spags readied his defense for the screens and running game but forgot RG3 has the capability to pass down the field and do it well and when he did he made it look easy which had me seriously concerned for the season, spags seemed to stick to his guns and only adjusted when we fell far behind. If we don't come out ready for Cam next week I think we can chaulk up the season as the worst offseason and reg season since katrina.

09-12-2012, 07:44 AM	#8
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,103 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Hopefully this will calm people down!! That defense gave up more plays > 20 yards than are allowed to get any sort of "credit".

09-12-2012, 12:35 PM	#9
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,061	Greg Williams schemes you say? Greg Williams great defense you say? Marshawn Lynch I say..... Mardigras9 likes this.

09-12-2012, 01:05 PM	#10
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 21,012 Blog Entries: 45	Re: Hopefully this will calm people down!! Look, that streak last season had zippo to do with the defense. Our offense was pretty-much flawless at times and we outscored teams most of the time. Had our offense played up to their abilities last Sunday it would have been a totally different game. And losing Meachum had zero to do with it because he's not blocking on the line. Drew had defenders in his face and the o-line played poorly at best. What I saw Sunday didn't have anything to do with Gregg Williams as his defense was weak at best. If anything, our secondary was having a hangover from last season (looking the same or a little worse) where they looked the same and the run defense looked improved. Again, if anyone is going to point fingers, point them at that o-line that looked sorry and sad last Sunday. Drew throwing that INT didn't help either. PS where is Jabari Greer? Again, he's out and coverage in the secondary is weak.
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