Ben Grubbs vs. Carl Nicks

halloween 65 · 09-10-2012, 02:50 PM

The O-Line was man handled period, they know it, we know it, the entire country knows it . The Skins gave everyone a blue print on how to handle the Saints, Lord knows I miss Payton.

lumm0x · 09-10-2012, 02:52 PM

Bushrod has always been someone that needs to be helped either with a double team or a chip. Streif is solid but unspectacular on a great day and mediocre on most days. I agree, the guards are not the issue and Grubbs was not particularly bad. De La Puente was a practice roster player surrounded by two all-pro's to look decent. He is not a particularly strong part of the line. I'd love to see us go after a top LT next year in the draft.

Danno · 09-10-2012, 02:53 PM

We've always struggled with 3-4 defenses, and with zone blocking offenses.

We played both Sunday.

4thqtrsaint · 09-10-2012, 08:43 PM

First off, I don't believe in "blueprints" to beat a team. If that were true, you could go all the way back to our first loss in 2006. Whoever it was gave the rest of the league the blueprint. And we just got better. If blueprints actually worked, we'd have been shut down every game thereafter. We just stunk it up.

Grubbs and Evans are fine. 80% of the people on this site are trying to pin blame. Its not having Payton, its the refs, its the WRs, its 12 men on the field, its Jenkins, its Grubbs.

Spoiler Alert: Its everybody on the team! Coaches & players.

They all know it. They will fix it.

Somebody send me an email when the sky has actually fallen.

SaintsBro · 09-10-2012, 08:51 PM

Sheez. Give them a few weeks to get it together before we throw Grubbs under the bus.

What bugs me a little is that when we first got him, I kept hearing from Ravens fans that he was a really good RUN blocker, that opening holes for Ray Rice was the ticket on how the Ravens did so well, and got to the playoffs like old reliable all those years, with Joe Flacco not exactly being elite and all. (Aside from their defense, of course.) So I heard Ravens fans saying that, and I was like,"oh good, now we can get some holes and run the ball, this makes the Ingram pick make more sense now." But yesterday and all through preseason it was just pass, pass, pass so much on Sunday. I want to see him blow somebody up on a running play.

GoofySaint · 09-10-2012, 08:54 PM

Originally Posted by SaintsBro

Sheez. Give them a few weeks to get it together before we throw Grubbs under the bus.

What bugs me a little is that when we first got him, I kept hearing from Ravens fans that he was a really good RUN blocker, that opening holes for Ray Rice was the ticket on how the Ravens did so well, and got to the playoffs like old reliable all those years, with Joe Flacco not exactly being elite and all. (Aside from their defense, of course.) So I heard Ravens fans saying that, and I was like,"oh good, now we can get some holes and run the ball, this makes the Ingram pick make more sense now." But yesterday and all through preseason it was just pass, pass, pass so much on Sunday. I want to see him blow somebody up on a running play.

That's not really Grubs fault though really?

SaintsBro · 09-10-2012, 09:24 PM

Originally Posted by GoofySaint

That's not really Grubs fault though really?

Oh no, I didn't mean it to sound like that. Not blaming him at all. I just want to see the Saints be balanced this year, and get into some boring "3 yards and a cloud of dust" ball control type stuff, to go along with the ridiculous dazzling passing attack.

GoofySaint · 09-10-2012, 08:56 PM

Hey don't blame the guards.

If you want to blame the O line then I'll admit the O TACKLES fell apart.

But Evans and grubbs are still the best guard duo in the league.

QBREES9 · 09-10-2012, 09:27 PM

Is the sky falling allready ?

TheOak · 09-10-2012, 09:39 PM

Watch your game footage again from Sunday.

Watch the preseason game
Footage again. LT getting manhandled.

Look to see who batted the balls down Subday, the LT was no where near in his face.
All Bushrod.

09-10-2012, 02:50 PM	#1
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Ben Grubbs vs. Carl Nicks The O-Line was man handled period, they know it, we know it, the entire country knows it . The Skins gave everyone a blue print on how to handle the Saints, Lord knows I miss Payton. SaintsRule11 likes this.

09-10-2012, 02:52 PM	#2
lumm0x Resident antediluvian Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,026	Re: Ben Grubbs vs. Carl Nicks Bushrod has always been someone that needs to be helped either with a double team or a chip. Streif is solid but unspectacular on a great day and mediocre on most days. I agree, the guards are not the issue and Grubbs was not particularly bad. De La Puente was a practice roster player surrounded by two all-pro's to look decent. He is not a particularly strong part of the line. I'd love to see us go after a top LT next year in the draft. SaintsRule11 likes this.

09-10-2012, 02:53 PM	#3
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: Ben Grubbs vs. Carl Nicks We've always struggled with 3-4 defenses, and with zone blocking offenses. We played both Sunday. \|Mitch\| likes this.

09-10-2012, 08:43 PM	#4
4thqtrsaint 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 103	Re: Ben Grubbs vs. Carl Nicks First off, I don't believe in "blueprints" to beat a team. If that were true, you could go all the way back to our first loss in 2006. Whoever it was gave the rest of the league the blueprint. And we just got better. If blueprints actually worked, we'd have been shut down every game thereafter. We just stunk it up. Grubbs and Evans are fine. 80% of the people on this site are trying to pin blame. Its not having Payton, its the refs, its the WRs, its 12 men on the field, its Jenkins, its Grubbs. Spoiler Alert: Its everybody on the team! Coaches & players. They all know it. They will fix it. Somebody send me an email when the sky has actually fallen. lee909 likes this.
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09-10-2012, 08:51 PM	#5
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Ben Grubbs vs. Carl Nicks Sheez. Give them a few weeks to get it together before we throw Grubbs under the bus. What bugs me a little is that when we first got him, I kept hearing from Ravens fans that he was a really good RUN blocker, that opening holes for Ray Rice was the ticket on how the Ravens did so well, and got to the playoffs like old reliable all those years, with Joe Flacco not exactly being elite and all. (Aside from their defense, of course.) So I heard Ravens fans saying that, and I was like,"oh good, now we can get some holes and run the ball, this makes the Ingram pick make more sense now." But yesterday and all through preseason it was just pass, pass, pass so much on Sunday. I want to see him blow somebody up on a running play.

09-10-2012, 08:54 PM	#6
GoofySaint 100th Post Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Philipsburg, PA Posts: 161	Re: Ben Grubbs vs. Carl Nicks Originally Posted by SaintsBro Sheez. Give them a few weeks to get it together before we throw Grubbs under the bus. What bugs me a little is that when we first got him, I kept hearing from Ravens fans that he was a really good RUN blocker, that opening holes for Ray Rice was the ticket on how the Ravens did so well, and got to the playoffs like old reliable all those years, with Joe Flacco not exactly being elite and all. (Aside from their defense, of course.) So I heard Ravens fans saying that, and I was like,"oh good, now we can get some holes and run the ball, this makes the Ingram pick make more sense now." But yesterday and all through preseason it was just pass, pass, pass so much on Sunday. I want to see him blow somebody up on a running play. That's not really Grubs fault though really?

09-10-2012, 09:24 PM	#7
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Ben Grubbs vs. Carl Nicks Originally Posted by GoofySaint That's not really Grubs fault though really? Oh no, I didn't mean it to sound like that. Not blaming him at all. I just want to see the Saints be balanced this year, and get into some boring "3 yards and a cloud of dust" ball control type stuff, to go along with the ridiculous dazzling passing attack.

09-10-2012, 08:56 PM	#8
GoofySaint 100th Post Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Philipsburg, PA Posts: 161	Re: Ben Grubbs vs. Carl Nicks Hey don't blame the guards. If you want to blame the O line then I'll admit the O TACKLES fell apart. But Evans and grubbs are still the best guard duo in the league.

09-10-2012, 09:27 PM	#9
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,990	Re: Ben Grubbs vs. Carl Nicks Is the sky falling allready ?

09-10-2012, 09:39 PM	#10
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,051	Watch your game footage again from Sunday. Watch the preseason game Footage again. LT getting manhandled. Look to see who batted the balls down Subday, the LT was no where near in his face. All Bushrod.

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